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Props to the seller for keeping his composure and not beating the breaks off that loud mouthed scammer. Also props to him for taking matters into his own hands after paypal screwed him over. Hopefully the scammer ended up getting locked up, but all in all, good to see the seller doing what was needed to get his stuff back. i wish this would be the norm with online scammers.
Cliffs:
Guys sells engine to buyer.
Buyer claims engine isn't as described and files a charge-back with credit card to get money back and keep engine.
Paypal sides with scammer buyer and refunds money to buyer leaving seller with no engine and charge back
Seller drives 100's of miles to confront buyer and retrieve his engine.
Stories like this just scare me from getting payment from Paypal. It's pretty ridiculous. Once a charge back is completed. Paypal doesnt give a shit if the original seller doesnt get his goods back.
I'm not familiar with paypal or buying/selling engines online but the scammer had it for a year? wtf was he trying to scam out of it but just garage space?
Paypay sucks balls.
I old a set of $1200 coilovers to a scammer in California.
He disputes, Paypal sides with me as the seller, but the buyer did a charge-back with his credit card.
Paypal then goes after me the seller, says I'm on the hook for the $1200. I ended up losing the money and the coilovers..
Dr. Mike needs to take notes lol...actually if this happened in Vancouver...the police won't show up for a property/online trasaction dispute.
I agree it's not even about money at this point, if he didn't do this I'm sure the scammers will try and fuck other businesses
What are people's alternative to paypal? I mean e-interac doesn't allow any chargebacks.
paypal will always side with the buyer. even if signature on delivery, they can claim it's an empty box.
ebay will not allow any other payment option except for bigger ticket items (cars, real estate).
paypal will only release funds if the buyer (scammer) returns the goods with tracking number but they may have changed the rules...
Of course, have better policies in place to protect both buyers and sellers
e.g.
- signature requirements for delivery
- video of packing the shipped goods
- video of opening packaging of the received goods
videos aren't scam proof
one can tamper with package before/after recording
comparative weight test to adjunct videos should be pretty good tho...too bad any money transfer services won't care/have the manpower to setup such a policy
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