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Old 04-05-2013, 12:18 AM   #1
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Since Paypal doesn't protect it's sellers, this guy took matters into his own hands..


Props to the seller for keeping his composure and not beating the breaks off that loud mouthed scammer. Also props to him for taking matters into his own hands after paypal screwed him over. Hopefully the scammer ended up getting locked up, but all in all, good to see the seller doing what was needed to get his stuff back. i wish this would be the norm with online scammers.

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Guys sells engine to buyer.
Buyer claims engine isn't as described and files a charge-back with credit card to get money back and keep engine.
Paypal sides with scammer buyer and refunds money to buyer leaving seller with no engine and charge back
Seller drives 100's of miles to confront buyer and retrieve his engine.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:32 AM   #2
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Faith in humanity restored. $1400 isn't much like he said but he taught a lesson and got his motor back acting upon his morals
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Stories like this just scare me from getting payment from Paypal. It's pretty ridiculous. Once a charge back is completed. Paypal doesnt give a shit if the original seller doesnt get his goods back.
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would have been so much better if they got to tear it out of a car that he had installed it into.
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lol had the engine for the year and still waiting for shipper to come get it.. WTF
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Paypal sucks. I lost $3000 to illegit chargebacks from scammers. I know how the guy felt.
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awesome video. yes paypal doesn't care about sellers at all.
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I'm not familiar with paypal or buying/selling engines online but the scammer had it for a year? wtf was he trying to scam out of it but just garage space?

I'm surprised he still has it after a year?
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Why was it still in the guys garage after a year still on the crate??? Seems weird.

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Paypay sucks balls.
I old a set of $1200 coilovers to a scammer in California.
He disputes, Paypal sides with me as the seller, but the buyer did a charge-back with his credit card.

Paypal then goes after me the seller, says I'm on the hook for the $1200. I ended up losing the money and the coilovers..
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Dr. Mike needs to take notes lol...actually if this happened in Vancouver...the police won't show up for a property/online trasaction dispute.
I agree it's not even about money at this point, if he didn't do this I'm sure the scammers will try and fuck other businesses

What are people's alternative to paypal? I mean e-interac doesn't allow any chargebacks.
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A lot of people been saying for years

1. for google can come up with an alternative to ebay
2. google wallet to go against paypal as the standard medium for (1.)

Of course, have better policies in place to protect both buyers and sellers

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- video of packing the shipped goods
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good on the seller for getting his shit back. ironic how the kid calls the cops when he's totally in the wrong in this case hahaha fucking moron.
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paypal will always side with the buyer. even if signature on delivery, they can claim it's an empty box.
ebay will not allow any other payment option except for bigger ticket items (cars, real estate).
paypal will only release funds if the buyer (scammer) returns the goods with tracking number but they may have changed the rules...
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I'm scrapping my Paypal now. Not worth the hassle of losing after hearing all these horror stories
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Of course, have better policies in place to protect both buyers and sellers

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videos aren't scam proof

one can tamper with package before/after recording
comparative weight test to adjunct videos should be pretty good tho...too bad any money transfer services won't care/have the manpower to setup such a policy
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Nobody got knocked the fuck out I want my 11 minutes back
I'm hoping someone did, but for obvious reasons, it wasn't captured on video and posted on YouTube
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Was the scammer really taught a lesson?

He would have been taught a lesson if the cops put the handcuffs on him and took him away in the cruiser for theft/fraud.
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the pussy drives a M5, i was expecting a big V8 Mpower engine in the garage
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Was the scammer really taught a lesson?

He would have been taught a lesson if the cops put the handcuffs on him and took him away in the cruiser for theft/fraud.
public humiliation...
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since the other guy was filming too, he might try and post his video online (bimmer boards?) to try to get sympathy
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