call the cops and tell them what happened. Similar thing happened to my mother's business, I followed the guy back to his apartment on foot. He came into our yard saying "he lost his gold necklace" fucking idiot right? I think him and another person were trying to scope out my property.

One time during the evening, came up to my door and tried to open by turning the knob, and during that time my dad heard the door so he went to look out the window and the guy just walks away. The cops parked across the street watching my property for a week straight after to catch them but unfortunately it did not happen again

make sure hang up a confederation flag n hang up a sign saying this home doesn't call 911

4CH Security DVR are really cheap these days.. $100 is a good investment even as deterrence.

Don't beat them up if they break in: Markham residents charged with critically injuring break and enter suspect | Toronto Star

I love this. Only in Canada the break in victim will get in more shit for trying to prevent their property from being stolen than actually letting their shit get taken. Sometimes, American legal policy does it right with castle/stand-your-ground laws, even if it can get gun happy.

Send the surveillance vid to the cops. They might be able to identify them. Also capture a picture of them and pass them around the neighbourhood to setup a block watch.

I am not a police, but I assume that unless I am physically provoked/attacked (fearing life in danger), I can attack back and beat the crap out of them? If I am the one to first hit them, I would be the one getting charged?

...... Common sense?

-Call the VPD non-emergency line.
-Say there have been suspicious people coming by your home late at night, almost every night of the week.
-Say you feel as if they might be people coming by to "scope out" your house for a robbery because their reasons of why they're are there so late are ridiculous. (Make sure you mention what they say they're there for, and at what time)

VPD should atleast be informed... They will hopefully then send a few extra units a night around your neighborhood. You might not be the only one they are targetting in the neighborhood.

Definitely going to look at setting up more security measures. My home doesn't even look like there's anything to steal. Looks like every other home down the neighborhood. If anything, I would think they would attempt my neighbors house, they got like 6 cars to the family (Got cash?)

Cop: How'd this man get injured so bad?
Citizen: "He fell down a flight of stairs"
Cop: But you only have 2 stairs out front.
Citizen: "Yup, he fell down them" :pokerface:

Will it help? No...but CALL THE COPS.

Of anything, and this is sad, it gets recorded as an incident, and tied to your address. Meaning when they pull up maps of activity in planning routes, or statistics, or assigning officers or whatever else they do in terms of planning, you are there.

Once again, its one little icon on a map with a footnote, but if someone has targeted you, then they have targeted others. That one extra patrol for a PO may be the one that leaves you with a broken door, as opposed to a broken door, empty house and traumatized family member.

Other than that, take a look around your house and see what areas you are weak in. Then fix them. Super high level:

Bushes by windows-huge thing. You basically take it from breaking in with 60 seconds, and make a nice screen so they can take an hour.

Lights-light it up. Seriously, whats a few hours with an electrician putting in a few non-obtrusive security lights? Get it done.

Cameras---are useless. They make people feel better, and that's about it. Here is the one scenario where they help. They catch a guy somewhere else, and they may, possibly, say, "oh look, you are this guy too". We have cameras at one of our buildings, and the guy was there for an hour trying to steal a motorcycle. Full face shots, multiple cameras...nothing. In my opinion, its a nice add-on to a security setup, but don't base it off of them. All you do is end up watching the crime happen in playback at remarkable resolution.

Locks-If there is glass anywhere near the deadbolt, then you need the dual keyed lock type so you can't smash the glass and open the door. Steel reinforced door jamb with a plate to prevent shimying the lock open. Ugly? Kind of. But effective. Picture a 200lb baddie giving the boots to your door, repeatedly. He doesn't care about damage. Wants in. Now stop it, with large fucking bolts and steel. Oversize everything.

Windows-bars on all ground accessible windows..basements and such. You want to slow them down. Especially anything at the side of the house where visibility is nil.

Hope that helps!

Just because you had one incident where video didn't help, doesn't make cameras useless. Especially since you claim that the evidence was in remarkable resolution. Now the police have filed his image and if someone matching that description is involved in a crime, they may show that image to a victim etc. You have no idea how much those images might help, and you may even get a call one day that he was apprehended for another crime.

Normally video IS useless when people invest in a $100 DVR (like someone else suggested). You might get lucky and catch a good frame but a lot of those machines are garbage. If you're looking for a deterrent, sure, grab a Costco system. If you're looking for usable video evidence, call a security professional.

I'll keep taking my chances. :die: :victory:

I called the police and filed a report. Even though, there's not enough solid evidence to assist them, it can allow them to be more aware if similar incidents have happened around the neighborhood.

LOL. I was waiting to see how long before a reaction to that :)

OK, maybe "useless" was harsh, but I certainly wouldn't want to say that a camera forms the basis of a security system.

Sure, its a deterrent.

But anytime you have a picture of a crime taking place on camera, it has failed. So now you are left to catch the guy after the fact. A dubious goal at best based on the ability to determine identification and find him. Sure! Absolutely, its better than no picture at all, but I'd prefer the person couldn't do what they intended to do first, rather than have a picture of them walking through my front door.

I personally like locks(expensive locks), lights and landscaping for deterrents to crime. After those were accomplished, and I really wanted something pretty, I'd buy some cameras.

Maybe I can whip out a chainsaw and wake up the entire neighborhood to get everyone's attention. They won't come back :fuckyea:

I was thinking couldn't you just confront em? Next time they come around just tell em what the fuck r you doing here at 10pm? (Or w/e time) tell them you call bullshit on their religious crap and you've informed the police about suspicious activity. And don't forget to swear every other word it makes you look tough :troll:

But in all seriousness... Is that a good or bad thing to do?
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first time:
http://www.gameranx.com/img/11-Nov/get-off-my-lawn.jpg

second time:

They can either back off and be afraid that police are informed. Or they could get pissed and come back for revenge :pokerface:

print your own "Protected by AlarmForce home security" stickers. paste them on all your doors

I always wondered how effective AlarmForce is...

call 911... describe the car and suspects... do so immediately if they ever show up again...

american thieves sue their victims all the time.. that's where all the stories have come from down south

Judge dismisses killer?s lawsuit that sought to sue victim?s widow | Q13 FOX News

Burglar sues Calif. homeowner, 90, who returned fire - Crimesider - CBS News

Accused Burglar Sues Homeowner Who Shot Him | WISN Home - WISN Home

Only in America...burglar sues victim from jail - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

so do brits

Burglar dies after falling from top-floor window following confrontation with homeowner | Mail Online

list can go on and on

sorry i just cant stand people slamming the justice system and going america hell yeah! when its so far from the truth

^ so what i get from these stories, is ,, if somebody breaks into your house,,, make sure they leave in a body bag,, or else they will sue u??