Owner of shelter for abused men and children commits suicide after financial ruin, ri Owner of shelter for abused men and children commits suicide after financial ruin, ridicule | WomensPost.ca Quote:
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I'm not sure what I take away from this. It's a laudable goal. It is. But, you took the risk. The operator knew that he was going against decades of society's thoughts and feelings on the subject. Just because you decide to do something on this subject, the government should jump in and fund you? It's sad that he met with financial ruin, and its sad that he chose suicide. But I don't get "martyr" from this. |
I've never liked how some people dismiss men's issues. Remember when SFU opened its men's centre? The woman's centre said that the men's centre is "everywhere else on campus". That's pretty short sighted if you ask me. Men are facing real issues that need to be discussed. Off the top of my head I can think of male rape (both women raping men and male-male), alimony/divorce laws, child support, adoption...these are legitimate, tangible issues, and I'm sure that there are feminists who are willing to work with men to improve these rights, but they get drowned out by the loud, militant feminists-such as the ones who protested Warren Farrell at the University of Toronto. If you're a Redditor, you may see people like them on the subreddit /r/shitredditsays and ancillary subreddits (known as the "Fempire"). Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a feminist vs. men's rights battleground, so that's all I'll say on the subject. |
Thanks feminists for gender equality, that killed off the real "boys clubs" of the world. Golf clubs, cigar clubs/gentlemen's clubs etc. Too bad. Guys need a place they can go to hang out with other dudes without worrying about a woman walking by when they're joking around and then be sued for some bullshit human rights issue because some woman got offended over something that wasn't directed at them. |
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I think it is fine for each gender to have their own gathering place to be themselves if need be, but don't think for one second that gender equality is bad thing. |
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More bad apples than good. In general, if anything it's accomplished the opposite. Bringing about gender equality by putting down and attempting to limit men. Not by bringing up women. |
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Just to clarify...I am not a feminist and I do not agree with putting down the male gender to benefit females. I truly believe in equality but do not agree with limiting male rights to do so. I failed\disagreed with the post specifically because I interpreted the first sentence as gender equality=bad. |
What a shame, he put in so much effort for a really good cause. It sucks to see whatever doesn't profit government or capitalist pretty much ends up being destroyed or ignored. |
Yes, sad story. And, it's probably true that many men who are abused don't come forward simply because "guys are suppose to just take it and suck it up because men are SUPPOSE to be "macho". I like this fact (quote from OP's article): In fact, according to Statistics Canada, men are almost exactly as likely as women to be victims of domestic abuse: “A similar proportion of men and women reported experiencing spousal violence during the five years prior to the survey. Among men, 6.0% or about 585,000, encountered spousal violence during this period, compared with 6.4% or 601,000 women.” Wow, striking! Also, I think men might face more emotional types of abuse than physical (though they probably face both types... just more emotional types). Both genders are EQUALLY capable of hurling verbal insults that demean and denigrate the other sex, and this leads to emotional abuse. |
RIP... But honestly, gender equality my ass. Feminists have been lobbying female right for so long that they forgot another specie, men, actually exist. It's unfair that women had all sort of resources (law, community, moral perception... etc) on their side if anything happen to them. If those thing happened to any guy, people just ask men to suck it up and carry on. Where is the equality there? Canada is a highly developed country in term of human rights. Feminists need to learn to STFU and stop looking differently at men and women. Because frankly, the only group seeing women differently seems to be feminists themselves. |
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I wouldn't call myself a feminist but educating myself with gender and sexuality sure opened up my eyes to a lot of things. "Feminists need to learn to STFU" ?? You should go tell that to the male population that enforce the whole masculinity deal. |
die srs scum |
Oh hey since we're on the topic of gender, abuse and shelters... I'll be playing in a concert to benefit a shelter for abused women and children in June. I'll have more details later but each ticket sold will go directly to the shelter. Donations above $20 are tax deductible. |
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Dedicating your life to a charitable goal is always a laudable thing. However, I have noticed a lot of the people who go into these things (often as a career) have a personality that is driven primarily by emotion (rather than objectivity and practicality) and are often crisis junkies themselves. Lurching from saving a person to from a crisis to another often gives them an excuse to burn through a budget prematurely. Just think credit card and any air travel website to "save" a family of 3. Recurring cc card debt, then it goes on to the carry over debt in charitable organisation budget, then leads to audits to Revenue Canada, then loss of charitable status which cost about 20k of legal cost to file in the first place.. it is like staring at the swirl in a toilet. The rigours and the mechanics of running a charity and sometimes the lack of specificity (could it be geography, types of clients etc) will inevitably lead to financial ruin. I think just the travel cost across Canada will sink any small charity. Unfortunately a lot of the people do these things by themselves (usually after a fall out with a more rational and pragmatic partner) and fall into a "me against the world" type mentality. Small charities just have to realise their limitations and take comfort in the ones they saved rather than the ones they want to save. There are way too many nuances that is not in the article to make any heads and tails of what's going on other than the guy committed suicide for a cause he believed in. |
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lets face it guys we live in a pretty gender unequal world men dominate society, and always have been from the past. i don't really mind the feminists, let them do their thing, its the least we can put up with |
........as long as chicks keep wearing short shorts on days like today, I don't give a shit. Or women who wear leggings like they were pants....... I'm OK with that, too. |
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one of the ones that really pissed me off was playing sports as a kid/teenager. there were mens league lacrosse teams, and womens as well. 1 girl wanted to play with the guys on my team which meant that we were no longer allowed to make jokes in the locker room...take showers after a game cause a "lady" was present...we were told to ease up on her during practices, and other teams we played would ease up on her as well cause they didn't want to hurt her cause she was a fragile lil thing... http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/u...1324408431.jpg pretty much the way it seems. |
hey, im all in for gender equality too, but there will always be some dumb ass male or female taking it to the extreme... its something that will never work out like world peace, one can dream... |
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