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Old 05-23-2013, 05:36 AM   #1
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How to turn your PC into a router and NAS?

Looking to replace my old 1bay NAS with a 2bay one, I also have a Bluray player, router and i3 HTPC in the same cabinet. Now I am thinking if the HTPC can do all the work, but not sure what do I need. Any idea how?
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When you're talking about a NAS, do you want something for general network storage, or just for media sharing? If the latter, Plex is a really nice DLNA server/client system - mobile, web, and computer-based access.

Otherwise, I'd highly recommend a small NAS appliance instead - they use FAR less power than having a PC running all the time, and most are pre-loaded with a wide range of server apps, including video, music, and photo sharing. My Synology also has its own Dropbox-like cloud server, Plex server, torrent client, webserver, and a ton of other functions.
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Setup windows on the machine for your HTPC stuff. For me I use Win2008 R2. Then run PFSense, Endian, or any other Linux software router in a Virtual Machine. For me I use HyperV. Done. You'll still need a router if you need wifi.
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When you're talking about a NAS, do you want something for general network storage, or just for media sharing? If the latter, Plex is a really nice DLNA server/client system - mobile, web, and computer-based access.

Otherwise, I'd highly recommend a small NAS appliance instead - they use FAR less power than having a PC running all the time, and most are pre-loaded with a wide range of server apps, including video, music, and photo sharing. My Synology also has its own Dropbox-like cloud server, Plex server, torrent client, webserver, and a ton of other functions.
He's wanting to merge the other features into his HTPC. Going dedicated NAS only wouldn't work for him.
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He's wanting to merge the other features into his HTPC. Going dedicated NAS only wouldn't work for him.
That's not really what he said, now is it?
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Looking to replace my old 1bay NAS with a 2bay one, I also have a Bluray player, router and i3 HTPC in the same cabinet. Now I am thinking if the HTPC can do all the work, but not sure what do I need. Any idea how?
Why do you want to do NAS ? Just do windows.

I was thinking the same thing as you, but I just use windows networking share.
It does pretty much the same purpose.

Within the same network, you can see all the content on the other computer and share or streaming.

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The problem I found with trying to host everything off my desktop was that anytime I need to reboot for an update, crash, software install, etc., it took everyone else offline. And kind of hardware upgrades, and nobody else has media for the whole time that's happening. Hardware crash, Windows reinstall... same problem, just for a longer time. AND having to recreate all the users and shares afterward.

Having a separate NAS box keeps all that shared stuff self-contained, and with it, I can backup and export all the settings for easy re-import in case of a major failure. That shit just ain't easy OR reliable with Windows.
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While that's true I personally don't mind the short inconvenience. If someone can't live without access to media for a few minutes well I can't say much there. A NAS has the same possibility of a hardware/software crash as a PC. I've seen just as many horror stories regarding failed NAS.

My own system runs Win Server 08 R2. It never reboots on it's own for updates and has been stable for months. Hardware upgrades are far and few.

I actually had more issues with my NAS than I did with my current setup. Power on issues, slow access, out of disk space issues, etc. Also if you don't buy a fairly high end NAS the throughput pales in comparison. Now this isn't to say NAS' aren't great but they have their ups and downs depending on what it's used for.
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My NAS is a synology, I pretty much want the new machine can do all the same thing, including accessing files, video, music, camera through android.
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Yeah, you're better off just sticking with another NAS in that case - you could make all that work with a PC server, but it won't be nearly as seamless, and you'll be looking for a variety of different services to run on it to support all that. Especially if by "camera" you mean the Surveillance Station portion. Besides, you probably already have all the required apps on your phone, no?

Mine is a Synology DS-412+ and it's been absolutely flawless since I put it in.
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Also if you don't buy a fairly high end NAS the throughput pales in comparison. Now this isn't to say NAS' aren't great but they have their ups and downs depending on what it's used for.
This. I bought a QNAP TS410 a few years back (and still using it now). I would consider it a low end NAS device. I get maybe 10-15MB/s write from this. It's severely limited by the CPU on the NAS device which is optimized more for low power consumption. Throw the fact I'm doing RAID5 on top of that which sucks up more CPU cycles during writes.

If I'm going to spend $800 for a higher end NAS box, then I'd rather put that towards an actual PC based NAS solution. At least it's a bit more versatile and I'm not handcuffed by hardware limitations.

Anyways, for the OP's question, you should be able to integrate the NAS functionality into your HTPC. I'm assuming it's a Windows box? File access should be OK if you share the folders that you want access to. Android has a million apps you can use to view files on your network. Streaming through Plex installed on the HTPC should give you the streaming video.
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While that's true I personally don't mind the short inconvenience. If someone can't live without access to media for a few minutes well I can't say much there. A NAS has the same possibility of a hardware/software crash as a PC. I've seen just as many horror stories regarding failed NAS.

My own system runs Win Server 08 R2. It never reboots on it's own for updates and has been stable for months. Hardware upgrades are far and few.

I actually had more issues with my NAS than I did with my current setup. Power on issues, slow access, out of disk space issues, etc. Also if you don't buy a fairly high end NAS the throughput pales in comparison. Now this isn't to say NAS' aren't great but they have their ups and downs depending on what it's used for.
Thats exactly what happened to me on my old NAS system...
Mine had problem such as "not showing on network, won't reboot, missing HDD, Raid Failure". Maybe I just had bad luck with NAS.

Thats why I am using Windows to host my 25tb server.
It nevers gives me any problem so far, and I know better with windows than NAS.

At last, Its way better to build your own Server. A lot more flexibility on the hardware and much more powerful.
And...its ganna be cheaper.

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The synology DS111 I have has been serving my family for 2 years, I have 4G LTE, and have 100Mbps internet at home and at work, 60~70Mb/s down and up is good enough for HD video streaming and BT at the same time. I set it to turns itself off after 1:00am and wake up at 7:00am, no problem with instability or difficult to access so far. The reason I want to upgrade from 1bay to 2bay is Raid1, and less cables and use up less power sockets.

DSM4.0 and DD-WRT are both accessible through my phone, I love it, but have a urge replace them with the HTPC which sits right beside it. If there is a program that allows me to gain full access from my Note2, then my problem can be solved.
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I use TeamViewer on my HTC phone to access client sites for service, it works quite well for desktop control, but I wouldn't use it for streaming (especially as it knocks down color depth to improve speed).

What you've got works well... I'd say the best concept is, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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