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GabAlmighty 04-29-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CRX SiR (Post 8463443)
Just finished my second turn around at JV Driver in Cold Lake. Decent outfit for work, and a big job coming up soon, so nice to have some job security in construction. Bumped to Foreman in a week from when I started.
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Guys need any class 1 drivers?

CRX SiR 05-04-2014 01:32 PM

Not that I know of, but I head back to work tomorrow. Will ask around

Mining 05-04-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 8456144)
Any engineers working in Alberta on RS?

Yes I know many engineers, EITs, engineering interns who work in Fort Mac.

Those who I know all work for either Shell, Suncor, or Syncrude. I do know a couple that work at CNRL as well as contractors such as Norwest, Klohn, and Terracon.

If you have any questions feel free to ask though I might not have all the answers. I will try to check back on this thread every once in a while so forgive me if I don't reply the first few days.

Edit: Other than Fort Mac, I know quite a few in Calgary as well. I am more familiar with Fort Mac however due to the fact that I work here lol.

Edit 2: A lot of us have the option to fly in and fly out from either Edmonton or Calgary. I know only a couple companies that will let you fly out of Vancouver which is very rare.

Mining 05-04-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 8456483)
Is it even possible to get into the energy industry as an EIT (Engineer in Training) who graduated from Vancouver. I hear HR in any company usually won't even look at your resume if the header doesn't have a local adrdress.

TIA!
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I have many friends who are engineering graduates out of UBC who are working in Fort Mac/Calgary. Most of them have Civil, Geo, Mining, Chemical, and Petroleum backgrounds. I know Norwest hires a lot of people from BCIT though.

Other than that, most engineers I know working in Fort Mac come from other well known universities across Canada.

EDIT: Majority of the engineers I know are not local to Alberta. There is a wide mix throughout Canada from West to East coast.

zizo 05-05-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Asmodeus (Post 8466363)
I have many friends who are engineering graduates out of UBC who are working in Fort Mac/Calgary. Most of them have Civil, Geo, Mining, Chemical, and Petroleum backgrounds. I know Norwest hires a lot of people from BCIT though.

Other than that, most engineers I know working in Fort Mac come from other well known universities across Canada.

EDIT: Majority of the engineers I know are not local to Alberta. There is a wide mix throughout Canada from West to East coast.

Thats good news then, because i always thought they only choose locals as shenmecar said. Im an Electrical engineer EIT, graduated from UBC hopefully i can find something there soon.

98blazer 05-06-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 8456144)
Any engineers working in Alberta on RS?

I do. been up flying in and out of fort mac for 2 1/2 years now. before that I was in the calgary office for 4 1/2 years.

this summer, I finallyset myself up to fly back to vancouver on my days off.

I graduated UBC, so I know for sure they hire from any university

let me know if you have any questions.

blagh 05-08-2014 11:37 PM

anyone know how much is starting for 1st year instrument technicians or automation/instrumentation technologists? and hows it like finding a job in those fields without any experience?

Jmac 05-10-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blagh (Post 8468941)
anyone know how much is starting for 1st year instrument technicians or automation/instrumentation technologists? and hows it like finding a job in those fields without any experience?

I'm just getting into the field (automation), so take it with a grain of salt, but from my understanding, you won't even get a sniff without at least 5 years of experience unless you have connections. $$$ is supposedly fucking insane if you do manage to get a job there.

sdubfid 05-11-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blagh (Post 8468941)
anyone know how much is starting for 1st year instrument technicians or automation/instrumentation technologists? and hows it like finding a job in those fields without any experience?

These are ballpark apprentice hourly rates in oil sands.

1st $37
2nd $42
3rd $46
4th $51
Journeyman $57

blagh 05-11-2014 05:23 PM

shieeet, how does the pay look like for technologist/engineering position?
I would think the pay is less because of less field work

Correct me if im wrong

meme405 05-12-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blagh (Post 8469999)
shieeet, how does the pay look like for technologist/engineering position?
I would think the pay is less because of less field work

Correct me if im wrong

Experience dictates all, but minimums I have seen (or would accept for moving to fort):

PEng - 50+ an hour
EIT - 35+ an hour
Technologist/Admin/Clerk - 30+ an hour

These numbers are based on my experience on jobs which operate 3 in 1 out, LOA based or camp (which means they either house you or pay for your accommodations and food.

Average day is usually 12 hours, roughly 6 at ST pay, 6 at OT pay.

If you are going up there on your own and applying for positions these rates are obviously astronomically low.

blagh 05-12-2014 06:06 PM

how much money would a person with just an instrumentation ticket vs a person with both electrical and instrumentation tickets get?is it a significant difference?

right now my plan is to work towards both tickets in ftmac.

I have more questions about the automation/instrumentation field and ftmac. If anyone can help me please PM me.

sdubfid 05-12-2014 07:01 PM

dual ticket is ~$2 more but depends on company

anyone interested in getting into hd mechanic should apply to this program ASAP:

deadline is end of may and you need to write a test before then
you would be eligible for cheap student housing too

http://www.keyano.ca/Academics/Progr...hnicianDiploma

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/busin...548/story.html

subordinate 05-13-2014 01:53 AM

yikes, 15,000 tuition fee, but with a 1,000 bursary. & Housing costs. But 80% or better and a job at finning? Sound's like a great opportunity to those who get in.

Mining 05-26-2014 09:12 PM

I know and work with a lot of instrumentation and automation technicians.

They are all in the field most of the time since instruments are all outside in the field.

I know many of them who have had many years experience but I also know many of them have NO experience whatsoever. So it really is all over the place for these positions.

Pay depends on previous experience. Most likely nothing under $30/hour. In this industry, no one is ever paid under $30/hour. Just give to you an idea, interns will make $30-35/hour here.

thegentleman 05-27-2014 10:30 PM

I registered for the Power Engineering program at Keyano earlier this year. Took the DAT test and gave in a resume. I should be hearing a response from them soon, sometime in June I assume. I took a shot in the dark with this one.

Any pointers that will lead me in the right direction regarding if I get the opportunity with them for a follow up interview?

sdubfid 05-28-2014 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by thegentleman (Post 8478323)
I registered for the Power Engineering program at Keyano earlier this year. Took the DAT test and gave in a resume. I should be hearing a response from them soon, sometime in June I assume. I took a shot in the dark with this one.

Any pointers that will lead me in the right direction regarding if I get the opportunity with them for a follow up interview?

Pm me if you get an interview. I know exactly what to expect and what they are looking for. Put in 110% effort and you will make it no problem. To give you some motivation t's possible to make $120000 gross without overtime in the two year program.

Gucci Mane 05-28-2014 12:35 PM

i was thinking of the doing the haul truck course at keyano but this scared me away...

Suncor begins testing automated trucks | Fort McMurray Today

dvst8 05-28-2014 02:37 PM

In terms of wages/work environment/jobs, how is the welding industry in the lower mainland compared to Alberta? Can you still make decent coin in BC?

I am looking for a career change into welding. I've been in IT for about 10+ years and want to change it up. Should I take the courses offered at BCIT?

koukimonst3r 05-28-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight_KB (Post 8478514)
i was thinking of the doing the haul truck course at keyano but this scared me away...

Suncor begins testing automated trucks | Fort McMurray Today

Do it and get it done, systems ain't perfect yet, I remember 3 years ago at MRM, they've sunk remote controlled dozers due to lack of range. It's good money, obviously has pros and cons, really quick way to get 6 figures.

jasonturbo 05-28-2014 06:26 PM

I don't know if it's really that easy getting a job as a haul truck operator, make a fake resume up with the qualifications and no experience and see how many calls you get. Then make another fake resume with some experience and see how many calls you get.

At least determine your chances of getting hired before you spend any money... there is a lot of "outreach" programs giving locals priority, especially young women and natives (I'm all for that btw). This is a job that is attractive to the entire uneducated Canadian labor market.. so be warned that competitive entry is not an exaggeration.

IMO, Ft Mac is very clicky.

Matlock 05-28-2014 08:10 PM

I am a journeyman construction electrician, soon to have my class B FSR... My experience is mostly in ridiculously high-end residential. No industrial experience, very little commercial experience.

Do you guys think it's possible for me to find a good job in fort mac? I would do it, but I think my experience holds me back. Industrial and commercial are completely different from residential... and I don't have a clue as to how much more residential would make over there. I know industrial guys up there make good coin.

Vancouver is an expensive city to live in with much lower pay than other cities. If I could get away and make some money for a few years that would be great, but I'm not sure if my trade and experience would apply to somewhere like fort mac.

skiiipi 05-28-2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Matlock (Post 8478751)
I am a journeyman construction electrician, soon to have my class B FSR... My experience is mostly in ridiculously high-end residential. No industrial experience, very little commercial experience.

Do you guys think it's possible for me to find a good job in fort mac? I would do it, but I think my experience holds me back. Industrial and commercial are completely different from residential... and I don't have a clue as to how much more residential would make over there. I know industrial guys up there make good coin.

Vancouver is an expensive city to live in with much lower pay than other cities. If I could get away and make some money for a few years that would be great, but I'm not sure if my trade and experience would apply to somewhere like fort mac.

I know the electrician that is working at my store right now makes $90/hr
12 hour days, 7 days on, 7 days off, so he is making crazy amount of OT.
He says he only have about 5 years of experience as an electrician

Jmac 05-29-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dvst8 (Post 8478569)
In terms of wages/work environment/jobs, how is the welding industry in the lower mainland compared to Alberta? Can you still make decent coin in BC?

I am looking for a career change into welding. I've been in IT for about 10+ years and want to change it up. Should I take the courses offered at BCIT?

I know many welders and it's tough to make good money on the mainland/island without experience. Most of the people I know started off working for $15-$20/hour locally before heading to Alberta/Northern BC (mind you, they're in their late-20s/early-30s now, so this was several years ago). Most were closer to $15/hour when they started.

The ones who came back to southern BC are now making decent coin (most are $30+/hour), but still nothing like what they were making up north. Of course, the living conditions are a hell of a lot better here and camp life can be very hard on relationships and families.

Jmac 05-29-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matlock (Post 8478751)
I am a journeyman construction electrician, soon to have my class B FSR... My experience is mostly in ridiculously high-end residential. No industrial experience, very little commercial experience.

Do you guys think it's possible for me to find a good job in fort mac? I would do it, but I think my experience holds me back. Industrial and commercial are completely different from residential... and I don't have a clue as to how much more residential would make over there. I know industrial guys up there make good coin.

Vancouver is an expensive city to live in with much lower pay than other cities. If I could get away and make some money for a few years that would be great, but I'm not sure if my trade and experience would apply to somewhere like fort mac.

New residential building are constructed up north all the time, so even if you don't do industrial, you should still be able to find work.


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