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Old 06-12-2013, 04:27 PM   #26
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When FIFA and the Canadian soccer body allows it and doesn't have a problem with it and also without any medical support for the claim that turbans are a safety hazard, then one has no choice but to make these conclusions of the Quebec people in charge of this. They first said it was due to safety and once that was disproved, they said it has to do with fifa and that has also been disproved. What other potential reason can there be to exclude kids from playing a sport. Saying it's advantageous? Well a head protector like the one pictured above can be criticized as well because it provides extra padding for heading a ball which could help provide extra ball control or make a goal keeper dive for balls more readily because of not fearing head injury due to the protection; see how bullshit that sounds... let the kids play.
Very sad when sport gets destroyed by politics and other non-athletic means especially when it comes to the participation of kids who just want to play for the hell of playing.
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You know why those arnt banned? Because they are for medical use and protection. Turbans can add an unfair height, if some kid scores a goal off his turban you'd better believe people will be pissed.
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And that begs the question -- is that "affecting the game" more important than the religious discrimination being placed against the turban-wearing players?

From a universal value's perspective, I think it is more important to avoid that discrimination. FIFA, the world's top soccer governing body, agrees as well.
I'll retract my post earlier. I missed it and didn't realize even FIFA supported it.

I think avoiding discrimination is definitely more important.
I was just thinking along the lines that at the highest competitive level, every miniscule detail of "gear" could make a difference.

But if even FIFA allows it and deems it doesn't really change the game, then this Quebec league is just being stubborn.
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You know why those arnt banned? Because they are for medical use and protection. Turbans can add an unfair height, if some kid scores a goal off his turban you'd better believe people will be pissed.

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Is that an unfair advantage? Why isn't she banned from playing.



It's pure racism. Quebec also banned Sikhs from the parliament buildings.
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because its some floppy upward pony tail, not some tightly wrapped, able to deflect a ball, turban.

Its not racist, you don't like the rules don't play.

If it were in the worldcup or some highup competition ,and there was an issue of it being used unfairly, FIFA would ban that shit asap.

I have never seen a turban in a high level game, FIFA supports this for PR, not because they have delt with it before.
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because its some floppy upward pony tail, not some tightly wrapped, able to deflect a ball, turban.

Its not racist, you don't like the rules don't play.

If it were in the worldcup or some highup competition ,and there was an issue of it being used unfairly, FIFA would ban that shit asap.

I have never seen a turban in a high level game, FIFA supports this for PR, not because they have delt with it before.

We are not talking about the world cup we are talking about minor league soccer. Like the Canadian men will ever make the world cup the way soccer Canada is being run. Also are you telling me that bun on the top of her head zero effect on the balls moment?

FYI: This is what we are talking about:

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An adult will consider his/her religion vs. profession if they choose to make soccer a career. However, I agree, I have never seen a turban in high level game. But, this issue in Quebec is also about kids. The QSF is denying sikh children to varied competition, exposure and the chance to make soccer a career if they choose to.
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because its some floppy upward pony tail, not some tightly wrapped, able to deflect a ball, turban.
i dont think anybody is trying to make the argument that a turban gives anybody a competitive advantage. that is possibly one of the stupidest fucking things ive ever heard.

its not a safety issue, its even less of a competitive advantage issue. its 100% xenophobia and racism.

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"All items of clothing or equipment other than the basic must be inspected by the referee and determined not to be dangerous."
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Only an idiot would think a pile of soft hair can give a player an advantage.

The league's directors are just a bunch of assholes.
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Your move now Quebec, let's see if this continues to be about race or if they come to their senses..

FIFA says Canadian soccer players can wear turbans

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Soccer's world body has struck a blow against Quebec's turban ban, saying such headwear is perfectly acceptable on the pitch.

FIFA said in a statement Friday that it is authorizing the wearing of male head covers at all levels of Canadian soccer.

The statement says the headwear must be the same colour as the jersey, look professional, must not be attached to the jersey and not pose any danger to players.

FIFA's position comes four days after the Canadian Soccer Association suspended Quebec's soccer federation after the provincial body banned the wearing of Sikh headwear.

The Quebec organization had cited safety issues for its decision and the fact that the garments were not endorsed by FIFA.

A spokesman for the Quebec Soccer Federation says it will hold a news conference tomorrow to discuss FIFA's ruling and that there will be no comment today.

The decision to suspend Quebec will begin being felt this weekend as at least 20 out-of-province teams skip a tournament in Montreal.

Some players in Quebec leagues have decided to wear turbans in protest of the ban.

That ban had the support of Quebec's Parti Quebecois government and some sovereigntists have even used the case as an argument for Quebec independence.

However, many federal politicians opposed the ban and applauded the CSA suspension — with the Conservatives and Liberals being the most forceful.

The FIFA decision extends a decision on female head scarves from October 2012.

FIFA sent a letter to the Canadian Soccer Association on Thursday and authorized it to permit all players to wear head covers "in all areas and on all levels of the Canadian football community."

FIFA said the matter will be discussed again in October with a final decision taking place in March 2014.

The World Sikh Organization welcomed FIFA's declaration.

"It's been our position from the outset that the accommodation of the turban shouldn't hinge on FIFA rules but instead on Canadian tradition on diversity and acceptance and also on Canadian rules and law," said spokesman Balpreet Singh.

"This announcement is certainly good news, it's absolutely clear now that any restriction on the wearing of the turban is illegitimate and we're hopeful the Quebec Soccer Federation will now immediately lift its ban.

"The children should really be allowed to play as soon as possible."
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^^ Always nice to see some racist / discriminatory suckers getting backed into a corner and put under the spot light.
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