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Sobeys Buy's Safeway In Western Push I've never been to a Sobeys before, is this a good or bad thing? I wonder what this will do to Airmiles if anything at all. Sobeys snaps up Safeway in western push - The Globe and Mail Quote:
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No idea what to expect but me and my family have been Safeway shoppers forever... better keep dem Airmiles! |
I had to bag my own groceries at sothebys like a second rate citizen. sheesh. hahaha... |
I expect future downgrade in quality/price |
when sobeys bought thrifty foods it was all roses and norm business like always Year to two years later most management quit from thrifty and customer service is brutal there and original thrifty foods vibe is gone Will be interesting to see what happens with safe way Posted via RS Mobile |
meh. i don't shop at safeway anyways....worked there for 7 years...brother worked there for 3....dad worked there for 35 before the store killed him. i find it overprices and bad quality. IGA ftw. |
Dude! I fucking love Sobey's! In as much as you can have affection for a grocery chain. It's a Save-on equivalent. I mean, they are all the same, but Safeway tries to be that porsche style company with the somewhat nicer looking stores(the new ones), we'll offer to carry your stuff out to the car, and deliver stuff to old people's homes and pay cashiers $21/hr. I think those days are gone. Now its cheap prices with decent quality. I was never really disappointed with Sobey's. I think they'll be quick in changing the name in the fall. I doubt the US will want someone else doing work in their name. |
I sense a feeling of a love/hate relationship. :troll: |
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Urban Fare is the Marussia B1. Popular with nouveau-riche poseurs and no one knows about it except for locals. |
I've always liked safeway. Their butchers usually know what they are doing. The beef at Save on and Sobeys is always cut like absolute shit. Safeway is the only place you can get a good steak that isn't butcher shop prices. Other than that I don't notice much difference in the big box supermarkets. I usually buy produce at the smaller little markets. Whole foods is that stupid australian super car. It fucking sucks, and it costs 2-3 times as much as anything comparable. I can buy a free range hormone free chicken at market meats for 15-20 bucks or I can get the same thing at whole foods for around 40. |
only good thing about safeway is self cashier machines that are not retarded and large sandwiches :megusta: |
I like Safeway and as a kid that's where my mom always took us but we don't shop there to feed our family because it's to expensive, same with IGA. My mother in-law was a lifer there before she passed, worked there forever sort of like Dino's father. |
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Urban Fare is wholly owned by... drumroll. Pattison Group. Save-On Foods. |
IGA can be expensive, but they have good sales. I like that IGA has special items (ie: almond yogurt, store-made soups, etc) and their oven-fresh bread is VERY good. We buy our produce at the family owned store up the street....bought 3 bags full 2 days about for 12$. Can't beat that! |
Meh. - Famous Foods in East Van for specialty items at bargain prices - Donald's Market in East Van or New West for all-in-one Whole Foods type-grocer without the attitude, or the ridiculous prices - Cioffi's in North Burnaby or Windsor Packing on Main for meats - Red Apple Market in North Burnaby (Asian-owned, no nonsense) for produce needs - Superstore or Shoppers Drug Mart for non-perishables Done. |
Donald's Market at the River Market in New West is awesome. I've noticed that the Save-on is selling more specialty\whole food items in New West on 6th. Its a smaller "community" store. Its not too bad. |
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Safeway = Porsche Whole Foods = Mclaren Urban Fare= Marussia :accepted: T&T= ???? :troll: |
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Famous Foods ftw |
Agreed with Westohper, at least Safeway has a legit meat department still. They have good beef. Save-on seems to have better pork though. I hope they fix the bakery. I can't stand their baguette and french bread there. The quality is consistent at all of them, so I know they are operated well. But the bread recipe is utter crap. IGA has the best normal bread, but the Ace baguette at Superstore is by far my favorite. I feel a little retarded every time I have to get one and that's the only thing I buy. Wait in a Superstore line for a stupid loaf of bread. :facepalm: |
just go to walmart for everything |
ive become a fan of the new thriftys' popping up they're like a bigger Nestors market thats open 24/7 used to shop at safeway all the time but ever since they had that long strike years ago we never went back |
On the acquisition side of things... $5.8 billion is $27 million per store. That is a very, very high price to pay. The supermarket segment, from previous case studies I remember, have median net profit margins of 1% to 2%. So, Sobeys, in order to make this worthwhile, have to increase its net profit by $200 million per year for the next 29 years (interest and inflation not factored in). So, Sobeys is assuming that each of the 213 stores have to earn (net profit) around $1 million per year for the next 29 years. So, this means each of the 213 stores SHOULD have revenues of around $50 million to $100 million, which is very unlikely. See this report: FMI | Food Marketing Institute | Supermarket Facts Average sales is $20 million for the USA supermarket industry, and I was right on the 1% net profit margin. Sobeys have a high probability of NOT earning a fair future value and ROA and ROI. Just from reading the article, one way Sobeys could benefit is that Sobeys could use Safeway's distribution centres and manufacturing facilities to open even MORE stores (either through the Safeway brand or the franchised brands). But, if Sobeys does not leverage the centres and facilities by opening more stores, then this is a bad deal for Sobeys. Even Safeway CEO USA admitted that the deal was “extremely attractive” and sold to Sobeys. On paper any way, it simply looks like Sobeys have yearned for Safeway since 2000 and wanted to pull the gun by using cheap money (low interest from the notes) and high-priced Sobeys equity. If the net profit margin is 1% to 2%, then the low-interest notes used to finance this acquisition MUST be lower than 2%. Otherwise, Sobeys is better off just putting the $5.8 billion in low-yield investments that offer more than the 2%. Also, Empire (the parent company of Sobeys) has a current market cap of $4.6 Billion. It's offering $5.8 billion to buy Safeway Canada. That is more than twice it's capitalization. It's highly leveraged or highly LBO with a high debt/equity ratio. All in all, as stated previously, it is much too high a price to pay. So, conclusion is: bad deal for Sobeys. Great deal for Safeway USA. |
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did you not see their richmond parking lot? :troll: |
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