Cory Monteith found dead in Vancouver

[sonick]

Heroin, intense. Would've thought cocaine.

[dinosaur]

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[The_AK]

Kinda ironic, I heard on the radio he came to Vancouver to talk about homelessness and drug addictions

[Gridlock]

Did we spend a lot of money to determine it was heroin?

Because everyone that gets in trouble in Vancouver does so with heroin.

[subordinate]

Shieet....Cory was into some hard drugs.

[Gridlock]

Do you have to inject heroin? or could he be smoking it or what?

In my mind, its the whole injecting heroin part that makes it hardcore(not that the alternatives are really tame)

[Sid Vicious]

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Do you have to inject heroin? or could he be smoking it or what?

In my mind, its the whole injecting heroin part that makes it hardcore(not that the alternatives are really tame)

you can do either..."free basing"

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious

you can do either..."free basing"

Wouldn't it be hard to OD if you were smoking H? Like, you'd have to sit there and smoke a shitload of it? And wouldn't that cost a lot more?

In which case, Glee boy probably stuck himself, which makes him pretty hardcore on the drug scene.

"Tonight, on a very special episode of Glee...."

[Hondaracer]

damn, tough gig being in the school choir

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by dinosaur

the parents of all these kids that a huge fans of the show have a lot of explaining to do...it was pretty selfish of him, imo.

heart goes out to his friends and family who are left behind, but i dont have sympathy for the deceased.

when you choose to star on a show that caters to children, you should be held to a higher standard.

I have sympathy for the deceased. A human, suffering intensely, died alone in a hotel.

The expectations of society imposes silence on people who struggle, forcing them to struggle with depression, anxiety, addiction, and other afflictions alone; battles one cannot win without support. Cory, as a celebrity, had an even greater degree of silence imposed on him, precisely because he's held to a higher standard. Perhaps, he'd have gotten support earlier, and these events consequently been avoided if it were it not for those expectations and standards?

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Do you have to inject heroin? or could he be smoking it or what?

In my mind, its the whole injecting heroin part that makes it hardcore(not that the alternatives are really tame)

It's possible, but very difficult to OD smoking heroin. It's very simple to OD injecting heroin, of course, which makes doing so intentionally (suicide) not uncommon.

[punkwax]

Isn't freebasing with rock-cocaine ie. crack?

Yes, you can smoke heroin. Edit: come to think of it, pretty sure I've heard "freebasing heroin" before..

I've learned a lot about hard drugs watching Intervention. Cringe everytime I see a needle.

[Gridlock]

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[Ch28]

Originally Posted by The_AK

Kinda ironic, I heard on the radio he came to Vancouver to talk about homelessness and drug addictions

He does a lot of volunteer work during his off time to talk and raise awareness about homelessness and drug addictions because he grew up with both of those issues.

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by Ch28

He did a lot of volunteer work during his off time to talk and raise awareness about homelessness and drug addictions because he had one.

Sorry, fixed that for you.

[RTS]

Heroin is pretty much the worst drug you can do. Most damaging and most addictive. Poor guy. RIP

[asahai69]

Id guess that the heroin was snorted.

[spideyv2]

The posts ITT are giving me cancer

[godwin]

I won't say role model, but I would say a good example of what NOT to get into drugs in the first place.

I think the parents should explain away. Sooner or later the kids would have to deal with it.

Originally Posted by dinosaur

the parents of all these kids that a huge fans of the show have a lot of explaining to do...it was pretty selfish of him, imo.

heart goes out to his friends and family who are left behind, but i dont have sympathy for the deceased.

when you choose to star on a show that caters to children, you should be held to a higher standard.

[godwin]

I would say Meth and any synthetic drugs are the worst. They literally fry your brain.

Originally Posted by RTS

Heroin is pretty much the worst drug you can do. Most damaging and most addictive. Poor guy. RIP

[kwy]

Originally Posted by dinosaur

the parents of all these kids that a huge fans of the show have a lot of explaining to do...it was pretty selfish of him, imo.

heart goes out to his friends and family who are left behind, but i dont have sympathy for the deceased.

when you choose to star on a show that caters to children, you should be held to a higher standard.

I do agree with this to some extent. When you have a family and friends that care about you, doing enough heroin to kill you is just reckless and selfish. He was supposed to get married 2 weeks from the day he died, now his girlfriend has to plan his funeral instead of their wedding. I won't go as far as saying I don't have sympathy for him though. Getting off drugs when you have a physiological dependency is difficult to say the lease. The blame doesn't belong with one single person here.

[JKam]

I wonder if this is what killed him.

Spike in heroin overdoses possibly linked to Fentanyl

There is a concerned increase in the number of heroin overdoses in Abbotsford and investigators think it may be linked to a much more potent drug; one that other police forces have also been warning people about.

Police think Fentanyl is being added to other illegal drugs. A couple of months ago Vancouver Police issued a warning about the chemical, but now it seems to be spreading to the Fraser Valley.

“Certainly, the so-called word on the street is that there has been a potent form of heroin out there and I would suggest not just in our community but in other communities as well. And so now it’s part of our concern that that potency might be created by Fentanyl,” says APD Constable Ian MacDonald.

He says there have been seven overdoses in the last few months alone.

It’s not just addicts who need to be worried about Fentanyl but also first responders and anyone else who may come into contact with the drug because it can be absorbed through the skin.

“We were hearing those same stories that people were having adverse reactions and part of our working theory is that Fentanyl might have been on board and might have caused not only the overdose but some of the peculiar reactions that the users were having,” adds MacDonald.

There have been more deaths linked to Fentanyl so far this year than in all of 2012.

Spike in heroin overdoses possibly linked to Fentanyl | News1130

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by kwy

I do agree with this to some extent. When you have a family and friends that care about you, doing enough heroin to kill you is just reckless and selfish. He was supposed to get married 2 weeks from the day he died, now his girlfriend has to plan his funeral instead of their wedding. I won't go as far as saying I don't have sympathy for him though. Getting off drugs when you have a physiological dependency is difficult to say the lease. The blame doesn't belong with one single person here.

Activities like base jumping, free climbing, and slacklining, are reckless and selfish, because they're decisions made by a competent mind. A mind suffering the effects of drug addiction is not competent by way of illness, and I believe the afflicted's fault for said illness is no greater than any more conventional illness. Therefore, I would argue Monteith did no wrong. Searching for a source of fault in a premature death helps people to understand it, but sometimes there simply is none to fairly assign.

[kwy]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

Activities like base jumping, free climbing, and slacklining, are reckless and selfish, because they're decisions made by a competent mind. A mind suffering the effects of drug addiction is not competent by way of illness, and I believe the afflicted's fault for said illness is no greater than any more conventional illness. Therefore, I would argue Monteith did no wrong. Searching for a source of fault in a premature death helps people to understand it, but sometimes there simply is none to fairly assign.

This is an interesting point. I don't think he is free of fault, but obviously doesn't deserve to have it all pinned on him either. It's a complex situation, and we don't know exactly how everything happened, so I'm not going to take a concrete stance on it. I think we can all agree what happened was unfortunate, and that's it.

[trancehead]

drugs of course alter the chemistry of your brain, which would no doubt affect one's thinking and logic

you can easily see how one can make faulty decisions easily under these circumstances. one would hope the closest around (being around people you trust is huge) can make sound decisions for him in place

[Hondaracer]

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