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instantneedles 08-08-2013 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 8296457)
"Rule 4 Cooperate with the competent public or private organisations and authorities in the endeavour to place sport at the service of humanity and thereby to promote peace

Rule 6: Act against any form of discrimination affecting the Olympic Movement

Rule 15 Encourage and support initiatives blending sport with culture and education"

This is what I mean when I say the Olympics is more than just a sporting event. Its not just a hockey game played in some random country every 4 years.

There is a reason that this is the first time Russia has had the games...there is a reason that there is a better likelihood that the moon will produce milk over North Korea getting the games.

+1 to this issue residing more in the grey area of things

The olympics are a time when countries all over the world can come together and engage in friendly competition - an outward expression of sportsmanship and a tentative gesture of trust. The idea of fighting over a sporting event (global or not) might not seem like a big deal - but when you think about it, it's the one thing we all care enough to invest heavily in. Sports are one of the few things powerful enough to draw the attention of those all around the world. It's something that we can all hold an agreement to, while clearly, homophobia is something we cannot.

Human rights, equality, freedom to sexual orientation, etc. These are words strung together in a way to make the world (or part of it at least) seem like a much better place to live in. Freedom has granted us with many things, and in doing so, it has also allowed us to be analytical of our surroundings - and so the formation of lobbyist/activist/protest groups would systematically follow. If a few words written in the constitution can guarantee all the things it promises, we wouldn't have these groups around relaying their haves and have nots would we? Inequality and discrimination is the basis from which this world operates on. You can take away racism, feminism, HECK, even homophobia, and the list will never work it's way down to the big umbrella of discrimination. That's right, because it's faulty logic. You can hack away at the twigs of a tree and never touch base with the strong roots it lays its foundation upon. Say what you will, but at the end of the day it's only habitual for humans of all shapes and sizes to form cliques and fight to the death. Even when there isn't a reason to, you can sure as hell trust that we'll find one.

There is a controversy to Russia's stand on homophobia ONLY because modern society (North American/Western Society) has placed such a strong emphasis on homophobia. It is an aspect amongst many other aspects that we choose to open our eyes to. Inadvertently, we turn a blind eye to the numerous other displays of discrimination hanging out in the side lines.

As mentioned, the stronger countries will naturally be inclined to impose their own ideologies/beliefs upon other countries. The stronger ones will germinate the cultures of the weaker ones, which will eventually crumble and fall. Darwin's theory of natural selection. So why decide to host the olympics in a "developing" country, knowing that differences are bound to exist, and still continue to bridge the gap between these differences? Simply put, because they can.

Manic! 08-08-2013 01:23 AM

Instead of boycotting some people want to strip Russia of the Olympics and host them in another city like Vancouver. On one hand I would like to see the Olympics in Vancouver again on the other I don't think Russia would come and that would be a shame.

SkinnyPupp 08-08-2013 05:09 AM

It would have to be a MUCH bigger issue for them to take the olympics away. China is much worse than Russia when it comes to gay rights (and all human rights) and it was pretty much not an issue at all. Maybe they are just better at changing perception, I dunno, but it has to be a bigger thing. I don't know if it has ever happened in olympic history, and it has been hosted by all sorts of regimes including fucken nazi germany.

MG1 08-08-2013 08:26 AM

The Olympics in Berlin went on because people wanted to show that fucktard how wrong he was. If the Germans were so superior, they would have walked away with all the gold medals. OK, so they won the most, but hey............. Jesse Owens won four gold.

dinosaur 08-18-2013 07:09 PM

Russian podium kiss an apparent defiance of anti-gay law - World - CBC News

I wonder how many political statements will be made during the Olympics....

xpl0sive 08-19-2013 05:37 PM

people are blowing this thing way out of proportion in my opinion. the law says you cannot promote being gay in public. you can do whatever you want in your own home just don't go outside promoting it to others. I don't see an issue with it, it's Putin's country, his laws and most people in Russia support them, believe it or not.

As far as boycotting the Olympics, it really does nothing except for hurt the athletes. US boycotted the Moscow Olympics in the 80's. Did anything change because of it? Nope


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