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Old 08-25-2013, 06:35 PM   #26
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Lol even some of the buses go over 50km on a 50 road.
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This city is very anti-car, this wont change in the next decade... I used t enjoy living here, but each day my enjoyment is taken away from me little by little, and the level of frustration in just doing stuff increases

Such a shame, we have such a beautiful position in the world, but that clearly attracted the retards here a number of years ago

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Yeah I hate vancouver now. I used to be able to drive 50 above speed limit and won't get suspension or impound.

I used to be able to drink and drive and the worst consequences was going to the drunk tank with 24 hour suspension.

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Is this woman just clueless? she needs to get out of her bubble and stop being so arrogant for thinking this would work province-wide

You can practically get anywhere in Victoria in 15 minutes and many people drive super slow. According to Wikipedia, the city only has a population of around 80,000.
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I wonder how this will impact cities like Kelowna, Vernon, Salmon Arm (hell, almost all of the Interior cities) where the highway actually goes straight through the centre of them. I'm assuming they'd change the limits for these places to fit a higher speed, but... ugh. BC is a hell of a lot bigger than just the GVRD, people.
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Back streets in Burnaby (at least in my neighborhood) are all 40. And there are a quintrillion signs to remind you of the speed limits, and also that they end at Hastings street.

I would love to see the cost on those, and what the cost:benefit was that Burnaby used to decide to implement this.
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i Thought any street without a center line is 40kph, any with one is 50kph unless specified.... I personally dont think it will affect us that much.

I mean most of us just kind of drive with the flow of traffic anyways... I mean I drive on marine drive (from vancouver to bby) around 7:45AM everyday monday to friday...annnnnnnnd i get passed all the time and I do 70 on there in the slow lane ....

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so go from 30-45min to get to work to an 1.5 - 2 hours to get to work....and then back again.

might as well just put up a tent at work lol.

unless she's willing to pay me for the hours I waste in traffic, she can go squat on a bed post.
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The whole world has to go anti cars eventually to survive. Eventually they'll be relegated to luxury items... Kind of sucks but we have to adapt... it's kind of what we do.
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The whole world has to go anti cars eventually to survive. Eventually they'll be relegated to luxury items... Kind of sucks but we have to adapt... it's kind of what we do.
If the infrastructure supports a car-free environment, I'm all for cars becoming a luxury / play item. The problem is, Vancouver's public transit SUCKS. How can residents adapt when the infrastructure isn't there to support them?
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^^ I'd only take transit IF I lived in walking distance to a skytrain station, and my work was walking distance from a skytrain station.

if not, theres really no incentive for me to take transit. I don't enjoy waking up an hour early to bus hop to jump on a train to bus hop some more to get to work, and do it all over again on the way home...id rather pay the few bucks in gas and go directly from point A to B.
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If the infrastructure supports a car-free environment, I'm all for cars becoming a luxury / play item. The problem is, Vancouver's public transit SUCKS. How can residents adapt when the infrastructure isn't there to support them?
Clearly they need better infrastructure then. I have been relying on public transport for 7 years in Hong Kong (almost exclusively buses in the last 2), and I have relatively few complaints. I would still like to have a car for leisure, but I definitely would prefer public transport over taking it to work every day.
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^^ I'd only take transit IF I lived in walking distance to a skytrain station, and my work was walking distance from a skytrain station.

if not, theres really no incentive for me to take transit. I don't enjoy waking up an hour early to bus hop to jump on a train to bus hop some more to get to work, and do it all over again on the way home...id rather pay the few bucks in gas and go directly from point A to B.
Busses can be more efficient than the skytrain.

Also, "A few bucks in gas"...and a couple hundred a month in insurance, a thousand or two a year in maintenance, tens of thousands up front OR hundreds a month in loan payments...


But yeah. A few bucks in gas.
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Fail, this publicity seeker just wanted to tell all of BC that she drives a Porsche!
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Clearly they need better infrastructure then. I have been relying on public transport for 7 years in Hong Kong (almost exclusively buses in the last 2), and I have relatively few complaints. I would still like to have a car for leisure, but I definitely would prefer public transport over taking it to work every day.
For most regular day-to-day life, I am sure public transit would work for the majority of people in London, Paris, Hong Kong, Taipei, and maybe even in Montreal. But Vancouver isn't anything like that. Public transit in Vancouver is dramatically better than it used to be, but it still sucks for the most part.
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Busses can be more efficient than the skytrain.

Also, "A few bucks in gas"...and a couple hundred a month in insurance, a thousand or two a year in maintenance, tens of thousands up front OR hundreds a month in loan payments...


But yeah. A few bucks in gas.
i will gladly pay every cent towards that if I can get from point A to B faster then public transit, then it makes my life easier which in return makes my life happier.

I plan on buying a house in maple ridge in the next few years, so waking up at 5am to bus and train/bus again just to get to work by 7am, spend 8 hours outdoors doing physically hard work, just to spend another 2-3 hours getting home in rush hour traffic while on public transit would just destroy my day and make my life a miserable hell. i don't plan on changing my job anytime soon as its a job i went to school for and actually like/comes with damn good benefits plan and amazing union. id have to wake up at 5am and not get home till 6pm if not a bit longer/possibly a bit less. id basically get home, feed my dogs, make dinner, then go straight to bed. im not gonna let that happen to me. if I had kids id never see them except for weekends..by the time id get home they'd be in bed (infant) or they'd be going to bed within 2-3 hours(younger kids 4-8ish). so im sticking with my vehicles. personal choice.
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Fail, this publicity seeker just wanted to tell all of BC that she drives a Porsche!


This is just retarded. I mean most people who aren't complete asshats don't go ripping down small residential streets at 50 just because thats what the limit is, and if they do these are the types of people that will continue to do so after this stupid law is implemented.

So effectively what this means is nothing in terms of actual driving style will be affected, which means no benefits, and the province will end up spending millions on 50KPH & 60KPH signs for roads like marine, willingdon, kingsway, knight, etc. etc.
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why are they lowering it to 40km/h?

more speeding ticket revenue?
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Vancouver drivers are retarded. I see at least 2-3 fucked up shit from my commute around Richmond daily. I don't think decreasing the speed limit is going to benefit most people, instead they should make sure people know how to drive with more rigorous tests for both automatic and manual separately. They should also subsidize dash cams and promote them within their respective communities. Too many people get away with driving like total asshats on the road and I would be so happy if the trend was towards safe and responsible driving (doesn't mean you can't have fun....) and such.
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The problem with provincially mandated speed limits is that while there are no doubt many roads in BC where the speed limit should be 40 instead of 50, there are just as many where they should be 60-80 instead. Although if the default speed is dropped down perhaps that would force some of the municipalities to increase the main thoroughfares to a more reasonable speed. For example in Chilliwack I routinely drive down Evans Road, which has a long stretch of 4 lanes plus bike lanes and sidewalks on either side in a half agricultural area and the speed limit is 50. Narrow, no shoulder, no sidewalk, etc high pedestrian areas, sure - 40. Everywhere else probably needs some degree of reanalysis.
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Man.. Richmond is bad enough driving around with a 50km speed limit. I can't imagine how backed up No.3 road would be with a 40km/h limit.. Line up would be from city hall to like yaohan centre
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Actually, to me this will not affect the majority of the drivers. They will still be doing 50+ on a regular basis just a better chance to give a speeding ticket and someone doing 80 on Westminister Hwy will now get excessive and impounded.
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i will gladly pay every cent towards that if I can get from point A to B faster then public transit, then it makes my life easier which in return makes my life happier.

I plan on buying a house in maple ridge in the next few years, so waking up at 5am to bus and train/bus again just to get to work by 7am, spend 8 hours outdoors doing physically hard work, just to spend another 2-3 hours getting home in rush hour traffic while on public transit would just destroy my day and make my life a miserable hell. i don't plan on changing my job anytime soon as its a job i went to school for and actually like/comes with damn good benefits plan and amazing union. id have to wake up at 5am and not get home till 6pm if not a bit longer/possibly a bit less. id basically get home, feed my dogs, make dinner, then go straight to bed. im not gonna let that happen to me. if I had kids id never see them except for weekends..by the time id get home they'd be in bed (infant) or they'd be going to bed within 2-3 hours(younger kids 4-8ish). so im sticking with my vehicles. personal choice.
And for those who can make the personal choice, that's totally awesome. I plan on getting a car again (it'll be number six), mainly because I don't work DT anymore and while I don't need it, it'll make my life easier.

But in your explanation I saw more than just a choice of a car--you're keeping your job in a place you don't like living (a choice). You're choosing to move away so you can own a home rather than rent (a choice). All of these things are personal choices, and as long as we have the earning power that's awesome. But public transit isn't and shouldn't be billed as "a choice equal to a car". Lots of people can't afford cars, either because of the upfront or because of the continuing costs--as a result, they have to spend a lot of time (as you've mentioned before). Providing subsidies which allow those people to maximize their own time will allow them to live better lives and will help them and everyone else.

Ever felt so tired after work that you just decided to say "fuck it" and order pizza instead of cooking? Not a choice for a lot of people--they need to spend their time cooking afterwards because they haven't enough money to adjust for the time they spend. "Just get a better job" "go back to school and learn something".

and so on. Getting a better job for some people is a choice--not a choice everyone has. I'm pretty sure if people could choose a better life they wouldn't work as janitorial staff cleaning up other people's shit, or working at McDick's dealing with your drunk ass thinking it's hilarious to order a whopper FIVE TIMES while you're smashed out of your mind and then decide to puke either on the floor in front of the counter or in their bathroom.


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What needs to happen is ICBC needs to be way more stringent when it comes to international drivers. It is ridiculous that "students" can use the foreign DL for the whole time they are here for school. No testing, nothing, and they bring over these DL's that is near impossible to prove is real, since there is nowhere we can go to compare the validity of them. I don't understand why ICBC does not make it mandatory for all driver's that are residing in BC for longer than a month, but are still visiting, to obtain some kind of valid short term licence.
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Actually, by her own admission during an interview on CFAX1070 in Victoria, Gudgeon has had her licence suspended due to too many speeding and other violations.

The Saanich based group "Community advocates for reduced speed" are also behind this push.
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