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chucki 09-22-2013 10:11 AM

icbc question
 
Hey all,

I am looking for an answer to a question my friend had asked me earlier, and I am hoping someone here can help her out. When she first bought her used vehicle, she had it gifted from the seller to avoid paying tax on the purchase. However, she was involved in an accident recently and ICBC had declared it as a write-off. During the accident reporting process, she mentioned to the ICBC agent the actual price she spent on the vehicle during the sale.

I told her Icbc may not cover the cost of her car because this may be considered fraud. What do you guys think?
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4444 09-22-2013 10:45 AM

Whatever bad happens, it's called karma.

Just let her find out the hard way

parm104 09-22-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chucki (Post 8325152)
Hey all, I have a question that my friend had asked me that I am hoping someone here can help her out. She made a mistake when she fist got her car by having it gifted over. The car was involved in an accident and was a write off. However, when she reported the accident, she mentioned the value she spent on the vehicle during the sale. I told her Icbc may not cover the cost of her car because this may be considered fraud. What do you guys think?
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I told myself I was going to be nicer on RevScene and I was gonna start that trend with your thread but WTF are you talking about??

Lomac 09-22-2013 10:57 AM

Shouldn't matter. I've had various cars either gifted to me or purchased at below market value and have never had a problem with ICBC paying me out. In fact, I got above market value for one car after it was destroyed.

z3german 09-22-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 8325168)
Shouldn't matter. I've had various cars either gifted to me or purchased at below market value and have never had a problem with ICBC paying me out. In fact, I got above market value for one car after it was destroyed.

But if you crashed or whatever, doesnt ICBC have the option to just give you the amount you paid for the vehicle instead of just fixing it?

dinosaur 09-22-2013 11:02 AM

So....you are here to solicit ideas on how to fraud icbc AGAIN?

gtfo.

z3german 09-22-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 8325171)
So....you are here to solicit ideas on how to fraud icbc AGAIN?

gtfo.

Not really, all he is asking is that his friend started the fraud, and he is simply asking us if ICBC will fuck her or not.

nma 09-22-2013 11:09 AM

pretty sure you just get market value for your car... Could be wrong though

Lomac 09-22-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by z3german (Post 8325169)
But if you crashed or whatever, doesnt ICBC have the option to just give you the amount you paid for the vehicle instead of just fixing it?

I'm not sure what the fine print allows ICBC to do in that situation, though I'm sure there's a clause that allows that.

That said, it seems a little silly if that's the case. I could pick up a car for dirt cheap, say $600, because it wasn't running. I'd then dump a bunch of money into making it road worthy and it would suddenly be worth $10,000 on the open market. If I crashed it, would ICBC be required to pay me out the $600 for the original purchase or $10,000 for the fair market value?

That was the situation I found myself in with my example above. I bought a car with a blown engine and transmission. I had a spare set laying in the garage so I swapped it in, fixed up the interior, and increased the value by thousands of dollars. A faulty charging system caused an engine fire and since ICBC found I wasn't at fault for it, they paid me out with a cheque that went above the typical market value. /shrug

z3german 09-22-2013 11:11 AM

Thanks Lomac, good shit to know!

noclue 09-22-2013 11:15 AM

tax isn't ICBC's concern... it's CRA and they put the hammer down if they find out.

fliptuner 09-22-2013 01:39 PM

Doesn't matter what you paid for a car. All that matters is what it was worth prior to the accident.

chucki 09-22-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 8325168)
Shouldn't matter. I've had various cars either gifted to me or purchased at below market value and have never had a problem with ICBC paying me out. In fact, I got above market value for one car after it was destroyed.

Thanks for the reply, good to know.

Edison_Chen 09-22-2013 01:48 PM

If it is private sale or gift exemption it's really up to consumer taxation branch (CTB), if they audit the tax situation.
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chucki 09-22-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 8325158)
Whatever bad happens, it's called karma.

Just let her find out the hard way

I suppose it could be one expensive lesson.

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Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 8325165)
I told myself I was going to be nicer on RevScene and I was gonna start that trend with your thread but WTF are you talking about??

I am sorry it was hard to understand, will fix it now that I am on a computer.

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 8325171)
So....you are here to solicit ideas on how to fraud icbc AGAIN?

gtfo.

That was not my intention. I was here to ask what ICBC would do in this scenario. This information might be beneficial to others who find themselves in this situation in the future.


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Originally Posted by z3german (Post 8325173)
Not really, all he is asking is that his friend started the fraud, and he is simply asking us if ICBC will fuck her or not.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by ICE BOY (Post 8325240)
Doesn't matter what you paid for a car. All that matters is what it was worth prior to the accident.

Good to know, thanks.

xilley 09-22-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by z3german (Post 8325173)
Not really, all he is asking is that his friend started the fraud, and he is simply asking us if ICBC will fuck her or not.

depends if shes 7/10 or not.

fliptuner 09-22-2013 02:01 PM

xilley'd

knight604 09-22-2013 02:05 PM

is she hot?

spideyv2 09-22-2013 02:07 PM

I'll fuk her if icbc doesnt
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chucki 09-22-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xilley (Post 8325257)
depends if shes 7/10 or not.

Lol, don't know if I can tell you that here. Too many friends on Revscene that will make things awkward haha.

GabAlmighty 09-22-2013 02:22 PM

Pics

MG1 09-22-2013 02:52 PM

Nevermind chuki's friend, I want to see pic of this chick Saucywoman is talking about in the other thread.

chucki 09-22-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GabAlmighty (Post 8325275)
Pics

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._of_chucky.jpg

Special K 09-22-2013 03:13 PM

ICBC can't refuse coverage for reasons of tax fraud.

However, ICBC can send this information to CRA or whoever deals with the tax form to have her investigated.

Either way, your friend's problem is two separate issues.
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MG1 09-22-2013 03:55 PM

^^she's pretty hot......... looks like she has bruised lips from chucki's woody, LOLOLOLOLOLOL


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