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mr_chin 12-07-2013 10:48 AM

Surveillance Cameras
 
Need some advice or recommendation on surveillance. There's a thief that frequent my alley and our driveway doesn't have a fence.

I need an outdoor camera that has night vision.

I need it so that when it detects movement for say, 10 sec, I get an alarm that goes off. Our just the monitor waking up.

What do I need. My budget for the camera itself is around 100.

Read online that I can use a webcam but I don't know how to make it Waterproof or protect it from condesation build up.

Help?
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v_tec 12-07-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_chin (Post 8377305)
What do I need. My budget for the camera itself is around 100.

Read online that I can use a webcam but I don't know how to make it Waterproof or protect it from condesation build up.

:facepalm:

FerrariEnzo 12-07-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_chin (Post 8377305)
What do I need. My budget for the camera itself is around 100

Surveillance Cameras @ MemoryExpress

Most cheap cameras wont have a good sensor.. so the quality would be crap... if you cant make out what you see in the video, whats the point in having one?

mr_chin 12-07-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo (Post 8377424)
Surveillance Cameras @ MemoryExpress

Most cheap cameras wont have a good sensor.. so the quality would be crap... if you cant make out what you see in the video, whats the point in having one?

the purpose is so i can see the thief coming into our driveway prowling around. quality doesn't have to be superb.

last night, i woke up and my car alarm was going off. i have shock sensors on my car so it requires quick a hard hit on the windshield to get it to go off.

if i can have a camera that sets off an alarm/sound or wake up a monitor after 5 sec of detected motion, i would wake up.

rubencruz 12-09-2013 04:28 PM

maybe best thing to is get a decoy installed, most have flashing led's looks real

asian_XL 12-10-2013 03:28 AM

^ agreed. just buy a fake camera off ebay, mounted it 3m high with a big sign saying you are being watch, that's good enough.

Or if you want a working cheap setup, you might try what my buddy just did. He paid $25 for a P3 Desktop with a 60gb hd, mounted behind a wall with a web camera hanging under a eave. All you need is to route the power cable and buy a wifi dongle. You can install surveillance program to detect motion and stuff.

seekerbeta 12-10-2013 08:21 AM

dlink makes a wireless camera with a pretty good sensor for just over 70$, you configure it and you can setup the system to email you when motion is detected. i have this and a ptz and they have pretty good low light and night time performance.

http://www.londondrugs.com/D-Link-Wi...efault,pd.html

FerrariEnzo 12-10-2013 08:38 AM

^^ that doesnt look like an outdoor camera.. is it weather proof?

Soundy 12-10-2013 09:02 AM

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnwltqhA7R1qzj7lm.png

Presto 12-10-2013 11:40 AM

Do you have basic shit like motion-sensing lights?

mr_chin 12-10-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Presto (Post 8379436)
Do you have basic shit like motion-sensing lights?

i don't have anything.

i was thinking of getting

TRENDnet TV-IP751WIC Wireless Day / Night Cloud Camera Email Alerts Motion Detection 640X480

but it's not outdoor.

outdoor camera are pretty expensive.

Preemo 12-10-2013 01:34 PM

Well ... yeah they'll be expensive. Think of the shit that camera has to go through to keep operating. If you want it done right spend the bucks. Regardless of quality. Cheap solutions end up being a waste of time.

willystyle 12-10-2013 02:39 PM

With your budget, you're better off just investing in a quality motion sensing light. Anything beyond that will be ineffective and waste of money.

punkwax 12-10-2013 03:20 PM

I'll help a brother out.

For that kind of money, your best bet is something like this: http://www.amazon.ca/Optex-Wireless-.../dp/B003XKQ6W0

Keep in mind, this is going to annunciate when a cat, dog, bird, raccoon, whatever, goes into the motion's detection range. Not ideal, but inexpensive and my mom actually stopped a thief from getting into their shed with this. My dad also aims one at his boat. If they hear it go off, they'll turn on lights and take a peak.

If you want something that ony detects humans, and you want loitering zones to trip after 10 seconds then you're looking at analytics. morethanyoucanaffordpal.jpeg

valent|n0 12-10-2013 03:22 PM

I just setup Trendnet IP312W from NCIX. I bought it for $60
the night vision is pretty clear even at pitch black.

to recognize faces it has to be really close though.

FerrariEnzo 12-10-2013 04:42 PM

install a fake camera and a good motion light?

mr_chin 12-10-2013 06:48 PM

thanks guys

TOS'd 01-03-2014 12:10 PM

Bump

Quick question regarding security cameras. I have a 16 channel system running 8 cameras currently, problem is that it has the feature that let's you view the cameras away from the premises. But whenever something happens to the internet connection, like a hiccup, the ip gets changed, thus stopping the stream. Would some how setting the system to a static ip fix this issue?
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punkwax 01-03-2014 12:29 PM

Yes, static IP will fix that.

jing 01-03-2014 01:47 PM

DNS is your friend
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Soundy 01-03-2014 10:41 PM

Get a static IP from your ISP, or sign up for a DDNS service like DynDNS (your DVR probably has an option for one or two pre-configured DDNS providers). Some DVR manufacturers also run their own "cloud" service, where the system logs into their service, and then your app connects to that as well, meaning IP changes become irrelevant.

TOS'd 01-03-2014 11:23 PM

There is a DNS service and it works, sort of.

Basically each time something happens to the internet connection, the DVR's ip gets changed to one of three ips. Default currently set to dynamic ip.

But yea, when theres a hiccup, ip changes and the DNS service stops working until I physically restart the device 3 times, cycling the one of three ip changes until its back on the initial one it was set to.

Is it not just as simple as changing the option on the DVR to static ip or I do have to contact Shaw (ISP)? I've had issues with trying to set the DVR to static though, hence why its been on dynamic this whole time.

godwin 01-04-2014 01:49 AM

Is your DVR behind a router then to the Shaw modem? (which I hope it is, those Chinese DVR system has really crappy security).

Setting your DVR IP to static won't affect the router's IP address at all.

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 8393219)
There is a DNS service and it works, sort of.

Basically each time something happens to the internet connection, the DVR's ip gets changed to one of three ips. Default currently set to dynamic ip.

But yea, when theres a hiccup, ip changes and the DNS service stops working until I physically restart the device 3 times, cycling the one of three ip changes until its back on the initial one it was set to.

Is it not just as simple as changing the option on the DVR to static ip or I do have to contact Shaw (ISP)? I've had issues with trying to set the DVR to static though, hence why its been on dynamic this whole time.


TOS'd 01-04-2014 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8393277)
Is your DVR behind a router then to the Shaw modem? (which I hope it is, those Chinese DVR system has really crappy security).

Setting your DVR IP to static won't affect the router's IP address at all.

It's a FLIR Systems DVR. It is behind a Shaw Modem/Router combo which is connected to a Cisco router hardwired into the DVR receiver.

So basically I should call Shaw and ask for a static IP? Does it cost anything extra? If so, is there a free fix/alternative?

Thanks!

Soundy 01-04-2014 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 8393309)
It's a FLIR Systems DVR. It is behind a Shaw Modem/Router combo which is connected to a Cisco router hardwired into the DVR receiver.

So basically I should call Shaw and ask for a static IP? Does it cost anything extra? If so, is there a free fix/alternative?

Thanks!

FLIR :lawl:

Okay, this isn't a Shaw issue, this is just your DVR pulling a different IP from your router.

In your router settings there should be an option for reserved IPs, so it will always assign the same address to a given device based on its MAC address. You want to find that option and add the DVR's MAC address along with its IP.

Is the Shaw box set to bridged mode and then running into the Cisco's WAN port, or is it left stock and connected to a LAN port on the Cisco, or...?

The FLIR DVR is made by Digimerge, and they also have a cloud-based service like I described above, where you should just be able to configure the DVR to connect out to their system, then setup the app to connect to their system, so you don't need to worry about port settings. The DVR should also support UPnP, so port forwarding happens automatically when it restarts.


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