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Old 12-11-2013, 07:47 PM   #26
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Community mail boxes are more secure then the apartment panels. However, it can still be broken into.
And it is a pain in the ass when it does. Takes like a week or two for them to be fixed and sometimes they switch the keys on your box so you have to wait even longer before you get your mail.

And all the outlets with Canada post on them already pulled the P stamps shortly after the news went out. You may still be able to find some at gas stations or small stores
Edit: Sister told me Costco is still selling them at $60 for the 100 roll
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:09 PM   #27
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Really, the only thing carriers deliver these days is fliers and come to think of it, gov't mail. Everything else I get is electronic except gov't shit.
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Community mail boxes are more secure then the apartment panels. However, it can still be broken into.
And it is a pain in the ass when it does. Takes like a week or two for them to be fixed and sometimes they switch the keys on your box so you have to wait even longer before you get your mail.

And all the outlets with Canada post on them already pulled the P stamps shortly after the news went out. You may still be able to find some at gas stations or small stores
Edit: Sister told me Costco is still selling them at $60 for the 100 roll
Collectors can still get "P" stamps. I better get them before they pull those, too. It's a shame they didn't issue any new ones recently. Those stamps would become rare and be worth more.

Like the rate change stamps that got canceled because Canada Post decided not to raise the rate. A few stamps got to post offices before they were pulled and destroyed. They are now worth hundreds.
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Really, the only thing carriers deliver these days is fliers and come to think of it, gov't mail. Everything else I get is electronic except gov't shit.
We deliver a little more than fliers and government mail just a heads up.
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We deliver a little more than fliers and government mail just a heads up.
Quite obviously, but the majority of shit that ends up in my mail box are fliers. I have changed everything over the electronic billing: phone, cable/internet, bank statements, mortgage stuff, etc. All other mail I get comes from MSP, student loans, property tax, etc.

I also just received a lovely note from Christy Clark asking me to make a donation to the Liberal Party *eyeroll*

I have taken to only checking my mail once a week and immediately recycling 20+ fliers and never opening the less than 3 pieces of legitimate mail.

Don't get me wrong...it is going to be a huge hardship to those employed by Canada Post. I find it frustrating that yet another gov't corporation will be slashing thousands of job. My mail carrier is the nicest lady but I often wonder if she gets annoying with the amount of garbage she delivers.
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Buy up "P" stamps now. They will always be whatever the going rate is.
when do the rates start going up for stamps?

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Old 12-11-2013, 11:11 PM   #33
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How do other countries mail systems make money?

What about that Drone thing from amazon? I heard some Euro country was trying it out for mail delivery. Wonder if it would work in Canada?

The only downside aside from the jobs lost is the fact that mail thieves now get 100:1 deal. break into 1 community box get 100 items vs. travel, break in , travel break in - time is money! I hope these community boxes have some good security.
As a caveat, I'm usually pretty left leaning, supporting worker rights and a right to make a decent living, as well as being against corporate lobbying and greed.

But in this case, some of it does have to do with the wages. Many of the staff at Canada Post (CP) make over $30 an hour to file mail. or even $35+ to deliver mail. Yes I understand it's not easy to deliver male in bad weather carrying 40? lb bags or mail. But still, when you can easily deliver your route in 4-5 hours and then bank over time wages during holidays. Wages can get out of hand.

I understand they have a two-tier system where newer employees are at least paid a bit less, but there seems to be some mis-management on the employee side. How about hiring more seasonal employees during busy season so that you dont have to pay 1.5x or 2.x for Overtime?

And no I dont want this to turn to another Union bashing thread.

The management were also slow to adopt to changes to the electronic age. ie. Blockbuster

sucks that people have to lose jobs. seems to be hearing a lot of stories like that right now with Encana, Potash, Heinz ketchup, Kelloggs, BMO etc. right before christmas.
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People need to make $30+ an hour in the country to sustain a living and to be able to spend to stimulate the economy.

This country is dying. Companies are moving, cost of living is growing higher and higher, wages are not keeping up, real estate is out of reach for most, and now not even gov't can afford to pay their employees any longer.

Yes, Canada Post is being made redundant due to technology, but it was poorly managed from the beginning which will make to string more painful.
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On the other hand USA is going to a 6 day delivery week
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so.. is it time to invest in some stamps?
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....USPS tried ending Saturday delivery awhile ago but cant because its in their constitution or something..they are in a whackload of debt as well
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UK has Saturday delivery as well.

It seems that a lot of countries are increase while we are decreasing...either we are WAY ahead in our thinking or have royally fucked something up.
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I don't think cutting costs appropriately at the federal level is ever a bad thing but if service falls to shit then who knows
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In unrelated news, the number of mail carriers injured on the job through slips and trips is up 2000% over last year...

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Royal Mail can't really be compared to because the UK is just so much more dense than Canada. If you have a letter going from one end of the country to the other, you'll need to put it on a plane in Canada, while in the UK - you can put it on a Lorry and it'll still be faster.

USPS is easier to compare to - and well....

The Post Office Is Broke: It's Time To End Washington's Postal Monopoly - Forbes

16 Billion deficit last year. According to the article - they were running 4 billion in the red back in August.
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I still like my paper bills, gives me a good reminder to pay them. Harder to forget about something that I can pin up on my bulletin board and have to walk past everyday, than something that can get buried in my inbox.

And I get more spam in my email inbox than I do in my house mailbox.
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Rogers been fucking me in the ass with paperless billing, I'm going to be holding onto all the paper billing I can for as long as I can

Without a paper trail it's hard to look back through months without printing out 30 pages of online bills
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I still like my paper bills, gives me a good reminder to pay them. Harder to forget about something that I can pin up on my bulletin board and have to walk past everyday, than something that can get buried in my inbox.

And I get more spam in my email inbox than I do in my house mailbox.
When I switched everything over the electronic bill years ago I was terrible at remembering to pay....I just set all my bills up for automatic payment. Every single bill I have is paid on the 4th of every month regardless of when it is due. I even had my car insurance switched to come out on the 4th.

On the 1st of every month I switch a bunch of money into my "bill" account and I don't even think about it anymore. It is easy to remember b/c I I need to pay my mortgage, etc on the 1st so its when I do all my banking.
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Paper mail is actualy more secure than email lol.
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All my monthly invoices are paid by a cheque in the mail. I guess I will have to figure out a way to move that to electronic payment

I switched all my invoicing over to email 2 years ago. And let a couple of clients go because they didn't know how to use email. Lol



While most people in this thread I imagine are typical 9-5 employees and only get crap in the mail, many small businesses still rely on mail.
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Re: wages

I was at CP yesterday picking up mail cuz our apartment box broken into. I was there for about 10-15mins and I saw 3 works come to work in Yellow Cab. Maybe they take it from the skytrain (closest is Gateway), but the walk is about 15mins from skytrain to CP. They must be making enough $$ to afford cab rides - probably on a regular basis.

I wonder what would happen if CP privatizes mail delivery - just delivery. Would that even be possible? Kind of like Coast Mountain Bus Co. is to Translink.
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