Originally Posted by Rich Sandor (Post 8385028)

I love my 2011 F150 5.0L

Originally Posted by jasonturbo (Post 8385080)

How much do you love your non-adjustable headrest angle??? lol Worst design ever. (2012 introduced adjustable headreat angle)

Originally Posted by Rich Sandor (Post 8385226)

I have no problem whatsoever with my headrest. Nor have I ever heard anyone else complain about it.

Originally Posted by jackal (Post 8384433)

but seriously, i'm a ford guy. i really don't trust the reliability of the chevy and dodge offerings. dodge has never built a decent transmission for their trucks and having 8 gears just screams more things to go wrong to me.

Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8385260)

With DI, you use less fuel. But because the vapour is finer, it actually get further into your skin / mucus linings so there are more potential to do more harm than before.

Originally Posted by jackal (Post 8384966)

even though i am a ford guy, i wouldn't buy a first model year truck from any manufacturer.

as for running a diesel in a 1/2 tone truck. it makes no sense. diesel is tipically a lot more maintenance and the engines are designed to move really heavy loads. loads probably bigger then the frame and axles can handle. if your looking at a 1/2 ton and feel you NEED a diesel then you probably should be looking at something bigger.

not to mention they are also usually a really expensive upgrade.

on a side note, spent the day ripping around in the new truck. loving it so far. it's SO much quieter then my previous 05 fx4. i'll snap a couple pics in the daylight tomorrow.

Originally Posted by jasonturbo (Post 8384773)

I don't know that I can agree with this, from what I have seen it's more like the initial cost is higher for comparable import and as such the used sale price is also higher, I think they depreciate at a similar rate.

... except for those old ass tacoma's... man people spend way too much on those things lol

Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 8385446)

im not disagreeing with you. but the ram ecodiesel for example is a small v6, i dont think its designed for towing heavy loads so much as it is for better fuel economy with similar capability to a v8.

if diesels were so much more expensive than why do most pickups/suvs outside of north america have diesels. in europe many cars even have diesels.

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8385273)

Wat?

Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 8385446)

if diesels were so much more expensive than why do most pickups/suvs outside of north america have diesels. in europe many cars even have diesels.

Originally Posted by jackal (Post 8385594)

i tried to find what the cost of that ecodiesel but couldn't even find it on ramtruck.ca but assuming it's like a 1k option plus the increase cost in diesel fuel how could you justify going that route even if it gets a couple l/100km better mileage?

and you can't compare europe vs NA there are very good economic and governmental policy reasons why there are so many diesel vehicles in europe vs NA. and it definitely doesn't mean that diesels are better then gas engines.

edit: i found an unconfirmed magazine review that said the ecodiesel is a 4k upgrade...

2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel V-6 First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 8389335)

4k over the v6 which is not even comparable in terms of power and torque. its 2800 over the v8, its 22 mpg combined vs 16 for hemi, diesel is about 1.45 vs 1.28 for gas. so at 20k per year is 1318 for diesel and 1600 for gas so pays for itself in 9 years or so. higher resale probaly offset by higher maintenance cost.

sp assuming my math is correct then id have the say the diesel is not really worth it.

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8389367)

If you think a diesel truck engine is going to have less maintenance costs than a gas truck engine you need to think again man........ holy balls........... ask any guy with a F350 or Cummins Dodge what his maintenance bills are.