REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events

Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-29-2014, 01:43 AM   #1
I want to be a person and not an icon.
 
Vale46Rossi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mugello
Posts: 4,173
Thanked 5,283 Times in 892 Posts
How Naoki Hiroshima lost his $50,000 twitter handle

Quote:
Naoki Hiroshima is the creator of Cocoyon and a developer for Echofon. This post originally appeared on Naoki’s Medium blog and has been republished with permission.

I had a rare Twitter username, @N. Yep, just one letter. I’ve been offered as much as $50,000 for it. People have tried to steal it. Password reset instructions are a regular sight in my email inbox.

As of today, I no longer control @N. I was extorted into giving it up.

While eating lunch on January 20, 2014, I received a text message from PayPal for one-time validation code. Somebody was trying to steal my PayPal account. I ignored it and continued eating.

Later in the day, I checked my email which uses my personal domain name (registered with GoDaddy) through Google Apps. I found the last message I had received was from GoDaddy with the subject “Account Settings Change Confirmation.” There was a good reason why that was the last one.

From: GoDaddy
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:50:02 -0800
Subject: Account Settings Change Confirmation

Dear naoki hiroshima,

You are receiving this email because the Account Settings were modified for the following Customer Account:

XXXXXXXX

There will be a brief period before this request takes effect.

If these modifications were made without your consent, please log in to your account and update your security settings.

If you are unable to log in to your account or if unauthorized changes have been made to domain names associated with the account, please contact our customer support team for assistance: support@godaddy.com or (480) 505-8877.

Please note that Accounts are subject to our Universal Terms of Service.

Sincerely,
GoDaddy

I tried to log in to my GoDaddy account, but it didn’t work. I called GoDaddy and explained the situation. The representative asked me the last 6 digits of my credit card number as a method of verification.

This didn’t work because the credit card information had already been changed by an attacker. In fact, all of my information had been changed. I had no way to prove I was the real owner of the domain name.

The GoDaddy representative suggested that I fill out a case report on GoDaddy’s website using my government identification. I did that and was told a response could take up to 48 hours. I expected that this would be sufficient to prove my identity and ownership of the account.

Let The Extortion Begin

Most websites use email as a method of verification. If your email account is compromised, an attacker can easily reset your password on many other websites. By taking control of my domain name at GoDaddy, my attacker was able to control my email.

I soon realized, based on my previous experiences being attacked, that my coveted Twitter username was the target. Strangely, someone I don’t know sent me a Facebook message encouraging me to change my Twitter email address.

I assumed this was sent from the attacker but I changed it regardless. The Twitter account email address was now one which the attacker could not access.

The attacker tried to reset my Twitter password several times and found he couldn’t receive any of the reset emails because it took time for the change of my domain’s MX record, which controls the email domain server. The attacker opened issue #16134409 at Twitter’s Zendesk support page.

N, Jan 20 01:43 PM:

Twitter username: @n
Your email: *****@*****.***
Last sign in: December
Mobile number (optional): n/a
Anything else? (optional): I’m not receiving the password reset to my email, do you think you could manually send me one?

Twitter required the attacker to provide more information to proceed and the attacker gave up on this route.

I later learned that the attacker had compromised my Facebook account in order to bargain with me. I was horrified to learn what had happened when friends began asking me about strange behavior on my Facebook account.

I received an email from my attacker at last. The attacker attempted to extort me with the following message.

From: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:55:43 -0800
Subject: Hello.

I’ve seen you spoke with an accomplice of mine, I would just like to inform you that you were correct, @N was the target. it appears extremely inactive, I would also like to inform you that your GoDaddy domains are in my possession, one fake purchase and they can be repossessed by godaddy and never seen again D:

I see you run quite a few nice websites so I have left those alone for now, all data on the sites has remained intact. Would you be willing to compromise? access to @N for about 5minutes while I swap the handle in exchange for your godaddy, and help securing your data?

Shortly thereafter, I received a response from GoDaddy.

From: change@godaddy.com
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:49:41 -0800
Subject: Update [Incident ID: 21773161] — XXXXX.XXX

Unfortunately, Domain Services will not be able to assist you with your change request as you are not the current registrant of the domain name. As the registrar we can only make this type of change after verifying the consent of the registrant. You may wish to pursue one or more of the following options should you decide
to pursue this matter further:

1. Visit Whois Lookup | Domain Availability - Registration Information to locate the Whois record for the domain name and resolve the issue with the registrant directly.

2. Go to List of Approved Dispute Resolution Service Providers | ICANN to find an ICANN approved arbitration provider.

3. Provide the following link to your legal counsel for information on submitting legal documents to GoDaddy: Legal Agreement GoDaddy now considers this matter closed.

My claim was refused because I am not the “current registrant.” GoDaddy asked the attacker if it was ok to change account information, while they didn’t bother asking me if it was ok when the attacker did it. I was infuriated that GoDaddy had put the burden on the true owner.

A coworker of mine was able to connect me to a GoDaddy executive. The executive attempted to get the security team involved, but nothing has happened. Perhaps because of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.

Then I received this follow-up from the attacker.

From: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:50:16 -0800
Subject: …hello

Are you going to swap the handle? the godaddy account is ready to go. Password changed and a neutral email is linked to it.

I asked a friend of mine at Twitter what the chances of recovering the Twitter account were if the attacker took ownership. I remembered what had happened to @mat and concluded that giving up the account right away would be the only way to avoid an irreversible disaster. So I told the attacker:

From: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
To: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:41:17 -0800
Subject: Re: …hello

I released @N. Take it right away.

I changed my username @N to @N_is_stolen for the first time since I registered it in early 2007. Goodbye to my problematic username, for now.

I received this response.

From: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:44:02 -0800
Subject: RE: …hello

Thank you very much, your godaddy password is: V;Mz,3{;!’g&

if you’d like I can go into detail about how I was able to gain access to your godaddy, and how you can secure yourself

The attacker quickly took control of the username and I regained access to my GoDaddy account.

PayPal and GoDaddy Facilitated The Attack

I asked the attacker how my GoDaddy account was compromised and received this response:

From: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:53:52 -0800
Subject: RE: …hello

- I called paypal and used some very simple engineering tactics to obtain the last four of your card (avoid this by calling paypal and asking the agent to add a note to your account to not release any details via phone)

- I called godaddy and told them I had lost the card but I remembered the last four, the agent then allowed me to try a range of numbers (00-09 in your case) I have not found a way to heighten godaddy account security, however if you’d like me to
recommend a more secure registrar i recommend: NameCheap or eNom (not network solutions but enom.com)

It’s hard to decide what’s more shocking, the fact that PayPal gave the attacker the last four digits of my credit card number over the phone, or that GoDaddy accepted it as verification. When asked about this, the attacker responded with this message:

From: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:00:31 -0800
Subject: RE: …hello

Yes paypal told me them over the phone (I was acting as an employee) and godaddy let me “guess” for the first two digits of the card

But guessing 2 digits correctly isn’t that easy, right?

From: SOCIAL MEDIA KING
To: <*****@*****.***> Naoki Hiroshima
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:09:21 -0800
Subject: RE: …hello

I got it in the first call, most agents will just keep trying until they get it

He was lucky that he only had to guess two numbers and was able to do it in a single call. The thing is, GoDaddy allowed him to keep trying until he nailed it. Insane. Sounds like I was dealing with a wannabe Kevin Mitnick—it’s as though companies have yet to learn from his Mitnick’s exploits circa 1995.

Avoid Custom Domains for Your Login Email Address

With my GoDaddy account restored, I was able to regain access to my email as well. I changed the email address I use at several web services to an @gmail.com address. Using my Google Apps email address with a custom domain feels nice but it has a chance of being stolen if the domain server is compromised. If I were using an @gmail.com email address for my Facebook login, the attacker would not have been able to access my Facebook account.

If you are using your Google Apps email address to log into various websites, I strongly suggest you stop doing so. Use an @gmail.com for logins. You can use the nicer custom domain email for messaging purposes, I still do.

In addition, I also strongly suggest you to use a longer TTL for the MX record, just in case. It was 1 hour TTL in my case and that’s why I didn’t have enough time to keep receiving emails to the compromised domain after losing the DNS control. If it was a week-long TTL for example, I would have had a greater chance to recover the stolen accounts.

Using two-factor authentication is a must. It’s probably what prevented the attacker from logging into my PayPal account. Though this situation illustrates that even two-factor authentication doesn’t help for everything.

Conclusion

Stupid companies may give out your personal information (like part of your credit card number) to the wrong person. Some of those companies are still employing the unacceptable practice of verifying you with the last some digits of your credit card.

To avoid their imprudence from destroying your digital life, don’t let companies such as PayPal and GoDaddy store your credit card information. I just removed mine. I’ll also be leaving GoDaddy and PayPal as soon as possible.

Editor’s Note: The Next Web has reached out to GoDaddy, PayPal, and Twitter for comment.

– A PayPal represent tells us that the company is looking into the issue.

– A Twitter spokesperson tells us: “While we don’t comment on individual accounts, we are investigating the report.”

– A statement provided to us from GoDaddy reads: “We take customer security very seriously and are investigating this issue.”

Source: How I Lost My $50,000 Twitter Username
Advertisement
Vale46Rossi is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-29-2014, 03:50 AM   #2
14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
 
SupraTTturbo2jz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ?
Posts: 691
Thanked 203 Times in 73 Posts
wow, that hacker is a huge nerd...going through all that trouble just for the handle.
__________________
ddd
SupraTTturbo2jz is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-29-2014, 03:57 AM   #3
Hacked RS to become a mod
 
SkinnyPupp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sunny Hong Kong
Posts: 42,007
Thanked 17,634 Times in 5,341 Posts
2FA... I enabled it on all my important accounts
SkinnyPupp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 07:28 AM   #4
.
 
jeedee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,725
Thanked 5,416 Times in 2,087 Posts
"I’ve been offered as much as $50,000 for it. People have tried to steal it. Password reset instructions are a regular sight in my email inbox.

As of today, I no longer control @N. I was extorted into giving it up."
--



Should've taken the money dumbass
__________________
Buy/Sell FeedBack: (21-0-1)
jeedee is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
This post FAILED by:
Old 01-29-2014, 03:24 PM   #5
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,699
Thanked 1,007 Times in 403 Posts
The stuff people would do for online identity, both the owner and the hacker.

The hacker won unfortunately, because the owner is too "prideful" of his/her "username".

Should have taken the $50k and get on with his/her life outside of the web.

While we're at it, anyone wanna by my username at revscene? $10.
mr_chin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 03:31 PM   #6
Cant Stop Modding Fat Cars w/ Cheap Pasts!
 
StylinRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: CELICAland
Posts: 23,045
Thanked 9,234 Times in 3,293 Posts
what a ridiculous story can't believe someone would bother, and can't twitter just disable the account now as an ultimate shouldn't they?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SupraTTturbo2jz View Post
wow, that hacker is a huge nerd...going through all that trouble just for the handle.
that's why he wanted a big fat N for his handle


Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp View Post
2FA... I enabled it on all my important accounts
It sounds like 2FA would be useless in this case since he went the route of account recovery?
This older (last may) article says that 2FA is still vulnerable to account recovery thieves
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-575...d-to-know-faq/

Quote:
How is 2FA vulnerable to hackers?

To hack two-factor authentication, the bad guys must acquire either the physical component of the log-in, or must gain access to the cookies or tokens placed on the device by the authentication mechanism. This can happen in several ways, including a phishing attack, malware, or credit card-reader skimming. There is a another way, however: account recovery.

If you remember what happened to journalist Mat Honan, his accounts were compromised by leveraging the "account recovery" feature. Account recovery resets your current password and e-mails you a temporary one so that you can log in again.

"One of the biggest problems that's not adequately solved is recovery," said Duo Security's Oberheide.

Account recovery works as a tool for breaking two-factor authentication because it "bypasses" 2FA entirely, Fenton explained. "Just after [the Honan story was published], I created a Google account, created 2FA on it, then pretended to lose my data."

Fenton continued: "Account recovery took some extra time, but three days later I got an e-mail helpfully explaining that 2FA had been disabled on my account." After that, he was able to log back into the account without 2FA.

Account recovery is not a problem without a solution, though. Or, at least, solutions are being worked on.

"I see biometrics as an interesting way to solve the recovery problem," Oberheide said. "If I lost my phone, it would take forever to go through each account and recover them. If there's a very strong biometric recovery method, a passcode of my choosing, and a voice challenge or something like that, it becomes a very reasonable and usable recovery mechanism."

Basically, he's suggesting using one form of two-factor for logging in, and a second, different two-factor combo for recovery.

Last edited by StylinRed; 01-29-2014 at 03:40 PM.
StylinRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 05:10 PM   #7
Hypa owned my ass at least once
 
Noir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Japan
Posts: 6,747
Thanked 1,314 Times in 540 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeedee View Post
"I’ve been offered as much as $50,000 for it. People have tried to steal it. Password reset instructions are a regular sight in my email inbox.

As of today, I no longer control @N. I was extorted into giving it up."
--



Should've taken the money dumbass
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_chin View Post
The stuff people would do for online identity, both the owner and the hacker.

The hacker won unfortunately, because the owner is too "prideful" of his/her "username".

Should have taken the $50k and get on with his/her life outside of the web.

While we're at it, anyone wanna by my username at revscene? $10.


How sure are you that the offer of 50K is legit or just one of the ploys to steal his account?
Noir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 05:31 PM   #8
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Mr.Money's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vancouver DT
Posts: 2,956
Thanked 2,216 Times in 624 Posts
i like how the guy didn't bother getting any Legal forces involved and kept it hush hush to himself
__________________
Fly Your Own Flag.
Mr.Money is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 07:42 PM   #9
Hacked RS to become a mod
 
SkinnyPupp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sunny Hong Kong
Posts: 42,007
Thanked 17,634 Times in 5,341 Posts
If someone made a legit offer to pay $50K for his twitter name, he essentially paid that amount to keep it. Who really cares, it's just a god damn twitter name
SkinnyPupp is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-29-2014, 08:42 PM   #10
RS Veteran
 
bcrdukes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: YYZ / YUL
Posts: 24,824
Thanked 6,596 Times in 2,598 Posts
So, what's your password, SkinnyPupp?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowguy
Fuck you hipster
Quote:
Originally Posted by GLOW View Post
no one said being a hipster was cheap.
bcrdukes is online now   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-29-2014, 11:17 PM   #11
I subscribe to the Fight Club ONLY
 
westopher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: vancouver
Posts: 7,167
Thanked 18,407 Times in 3,973 Posts
I don't know if there is anything in the world less interesting than this story.
__________________
98 technoviolet M3/2/5
Quote:
Originally Posted by boostfever View Post
Westopher is correct.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsy82 View Post
seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
westopher is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-30-2014, 09:05 AM   #12
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kel-pwn-a
Posts: 11,969
Thanked 4,957 Times in 2,167 Posts
Did buddy not bother asking why he wanted @N anyways?

Also using the last 4 digits or the first 2 digits of a CC for verification is retarded, the last 4 are the only ones never blanked out even when your full CC # isn't stored, and the first 2 are just dependent on the type of card (Mastercard, VISA) IIRC. It doesn't surprise me that GoDaddy sucks at security and account access seeing as they've seemed to suck at everything else in the past.
__________________
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S // 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC FOR SALE // 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD

Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer View Post
half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp View Post
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa View Post
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
underscore is online now   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-30-2014, 09:37 AM   #13
I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: vancouver
Posts: 1,568
Thanked 238 Times in 94 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp View Post
Who really cares, it's just a god damn twitter name
@Nough said
__________________
Q: What do you like most in a woman?
A: My dick

Quote:
Originally Posted by JL9000 View Post
this is the internet and everyone knows better about what happened sitting behind a desk than the people who are actually involved.
buddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2014, 09:40 AM   #14
what manner of phaggotry is this
 
RRxtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kelownafornia
Posts: 17,970
Thanked 4,932 Times in 1,658 Posts
Aren't all the emails from the hacker enough to get this guy his shit back legally? And maybe. Go after the hacker?
Posted via RS Mobile
RRxtar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2014, 09:50 AM   #15
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: richmond
Posts: 2,834
Thanked 1,485 Times in 568 Posts
perhaps that nerd just made 50k sellin the handle
__________________
Rise Auto Salon

11938 95a Ave Delta
I can be reached VIA text @ 778-232-1465

Oil change special $70 5 liters synthetic oil including OEM filter Fender rolling from $45 per fender
Car Audio:
Focal, Morel, Genesis, Clarion, Scosche, Escort, Compustar, GReddy, Blitz, Tomei, Motul, Endless, Defi, Cusco, Nismo + More


We specialize in:
Custom Car Audio
Race/4x4 Fabrication
Forced Induction
Engine Swaps
General Maintenance
Phil@rise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2014, 12:44 PM   #16
I keep RS good
 
Ulic Qel-Droma's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 28,361
Thanked 5,347 Times in 1,407 Posts
who the hell is he? and why the fuck is this news LOL wtf...
__________________
nipples neways...wat is with those fuck'n asians! i mean you would think they've never seen a dentist in their life. are dentists really that rare over there in ricey ricey and? looks like they're star trek ferrengi rejects! fuck'n have broken glass for teeth! goddaymn! and the smell....did a rat crawl in there and shit itself then marinate in its own shit as it decayed?ewwwwwwwwww! i swear...if one of those ferrengi asian girls gave head...when u pull the dick out it looks like it went thru a meat grinder! prolly shaved off a few slices of meat! *shudder*
Greebo i t-boned some guy and killed their baby, it was funny
silvia i have a couple asian guy friends that do very well with the ladies. but guess what, they go to the gym, they dont have long hair, they dont wear orange pants, and they dont play counterstrike. its not the ethnicity that the girls dont like, its the style and personality.
450HP Supra I am about to use your eye sockets as a shoe rack for my nuts. ...something about chinks, j-bodys, I can't quite remember as I was drunk and looking for a girl to punch in the clit. Think of it as a digital urinal, and you are the mint, except, instead of actually smelling mint, you smell like mothballs, rotten kimchee and virginity. I'm about to start drinking heavily now and you better be gone before I get back or I swear to god I will break the internet over my knee and use the pieces to beat you in the deformed skull with, cock muffler.
Iceman-19 If your gf cooks and cleans, good, tell the guy to take a fucking hike. If she doesnt, fuck, that joker can have her. Lifes too short to cook your own meals and do your own laundry, thats what women are for!
http://ho316.tumblr.com
Ulic Qel-Droma is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-30-2014, 12:52 PM   #17
What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 181
Thanked 109 Times in 44 Posts
Good social engineering skills... then again call centre employees aren't the sharpest tools...
JaPoola is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2014, 02:54 PM   #18
My homepage has been set to RS
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Deutschland
Posts: 2,402
Thanked 900 Times in 387 Posts
lol @ this whole "worth $50k" BS. Nothing is worth anything until you take money for it. He paid zero so it's worth zero. Until he sells. He never did... and that's his own fault.

Just like all these guys saying they "made" thousands of dollars with Bitcoin. Yet they still own the bitcoins. There is no value until you cash out.
__________________
FOR SALE: 14'' MR2 MK1 wheels with 90% rubber $130, FD RX7 Transmission $200, Hitch Mount Snowboard/Ski rack w/ THULE clamps, locks $200. PM me for details!

If this is still in my sig, it's still avail.
falcon is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-31-2014, 12:19 AM   #19
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
Manic!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Nanaimo
Posts: 10,386
Thanked 3,816 Times in 1,744 Posts
This has become one of the top read news stories on BBC.

BBC News - Rare Twitter username 'stolen'
__________________
I don't need an amplifier I'm already big, best on any track call me the Stig - Shizzo

Dusty Nuggets Rusty Shackleford Cuntar
Manic! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 01:38 AM   #20
Rs has made me the man i am today!
 
stewie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: burnaby
Posts: 3,090
Thanked 1,888 Times in 487 Posts
I've never used twitter before...so what's so special about "@N"???

Side note - I've had the same hotmail account for 10+ years. It's *myname*@hotmail...

Last year the password was changed on me. Same password for 10+ years, so I used account recovery with a spare email account to get the password sent to me. Had the same password just different upper and lower case letters....again, password was changed.

I called their customer service number and told them what happened. I didn't even need to prove I was the owner...I sounded pissed off and told the guy I had several emails on there that I desperately needed...just like that the Indian guy(could tell from his accent) simply gave me a new password and then told me to change the password upon logging in and he's sorry for the inconvenience and to have a nice day.... Quite easy lol... Wouldn't be surprised if I could do that to someone else's email...


-edit-

Read another article just now saying that PayPal denied that it would give out his credit card details. Wouldn't they have a log of the call? Aren't most calls recorded? (Or do they just say that to try and keep people from flipping out while speaking)

Last edited by stewie; 01-31-2014 at 01:48 AM.
stewie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 02:54 AM   #21
14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
 
Happy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ricemond
Posts: 665
Thanked 706 Times in 157 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by falcon View Post
lol @ this whole "worth $50k" BS. Nothing is worth anything until you take money for it. He paid zero so it's worth zero. Until he sells. He never did... and that's his own fault.
So you're telling me, if I have a business that's doubling it's profits every single year, say in the millions, it's not worth anything until I sell it?
Posted via RS Mobile
Happy is offline   Reply With Quote
This post FAILED by:
Old 01-31-2014, 03:00 AM   #22
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
Manic!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Nanaimo
Posts: 10,386
Thanked 3,816 Times in 1,744 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy View Post
So you're telling me, if I have a business that's doubling it's profits every single year, say in the millions, it's not worth anything until I sell it?
Posted via RS Mobile
You are making a profit so that means you have income coming in. Was his twitter handle making him money?
__________________
I don't need an amplifier I'm already big, best on any track call me the Stig - Shizzo

Dusty Nuggets Rusty Shackleford Cuntar
Manic! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 04:29 AM   #23
Hacked RS to become a mod
 
SkinnyPupp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sunny Hong Kong
Posts: 42,007
Thanked 17,634 Times in 5,341 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by falcon View Post
lol @ this whole "worth $50k" BS. Nothing is worth anything until you take money for it. He paid zero so it's worth zero. Until he sells. He never did... and that's his own fault.

Just like all these guys saying they "made" thousands of dollars with Bitcoin. Yet they still own the bitcoins. There is no value until you cash out.
Disagree with that analogy, as if you have $50K worth of bitcoin, you can easily go spend it on a wide variety of things
SkinnyPupp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 07:27 AM   #24
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kel-pwn-a
Posts: 11,969
Thanked 4,957 Times in 2,167 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp View Post
Disagree with that analogy, as if you have $50K worth of bitcoin, you can easily go spend it on a wide variety of things
Except $50k worth of bitcoins today could end up being $5 worth of bitcoins tomorrow.
__________________
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S // 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC FOR SALE // 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD

Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer View Post
half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp View Post
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa View Post
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
underscore is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 09:32 AM   #25
Banned (ABWS)?
 
AzNightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 16,913
Thanked 2,131 Times in 1,026 Posts
So is there an @A @B @C, etc.?
I don't use Twitter. So confused why is this @N so special?
Posted via RS Mobile
AzNightmare is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net