Factory Five 818

Apparently this is of the easiest car to build (200hrs).

Buy a kit for $10,000, and WRX for $5,000
You should be able to get this car for $15,000...at least that's what Factory Five says.

https://www.factoryfive.com/wp-conte...1/OH4A2845.jpg
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...v/OH4A2723.JPG
http://stblogs.hotrod.com/files/2013...RX-Kit-Car.jpg

Whoa... why 200 hours?

Links to kit?

Pretty sweet looking!!!

Dawg...

363 CUBIC INCH 500 HP BOSS CRATE ENGINE FRONT SUMP | Part Details for M-6007-Z363FT* | Ford Racing Performance Parts


Warranty... 500 hp... I bet this bitch you could pimp slap all day and she'd purr for more

If you want to post up crate engines:

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/a...572-tt-cdd.pdf

or

http://www.prolineracing.net/engines/plr-670ci-4000-hp


I say go for a Monster Miata with a 5l stang engine.

a full swap kit and mount kit are two different things. Im not justifying a $3850 difference but there is going to be a staggering difference in price regardless.
The monster miata kit is quite comprehensive

Hey guys,

I actually purchased my Miata last year with the purpose of swapping in a V8 into it.

Based on my research there are a couple options:
V8 - LS Series
- Requires significant transmission tunnel modifications and cutting
- LS1 Makes 345hp
V8 - 5L Mustang Motor
- IMO, not worth the effort for a 200~ hp motor
V6 - 3.6L LT1 and LFX (Soon to be released Link: https://www.facebook.com/V8Roadsters...661506/?type=1)
- No transmission tunnel modifications.
- LFX is direct injected with 325hp
- Tonnes of cars have this motor, the tranny needs to come from the camaro


My plan now is to wait for the LFX swap to be finalized. The early LS series motors are getting old and are becoming harder and harder to find with low milage. The LFX is direct injected and should get fantastic fuel economy to boot.

Ivan

The V6 Miata option is interesting. I wonder how the results will compare to the more traditional LSx V8 Miata...

For those who have a remote interest in V8 Miata, if you haven't looked through what is available here, you are doing something wrong:

Miata V8 Swap

I believe the V8 roadster kits are better, V8 Roadsters.
Another good resource, http://www.flyinmiata.com/V8/

If there is a single person in the world who's opinion matters on the Monster Miata it's this guy right here:

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/mo...n-Wilson-1.jpg

Apparently Shelby loved it, and frankly why not? It's a modern day Cobra. And the reason why I would build it is for the fact that it gives a Cobra-like driving experience for a fraction the cost. The Monster retains the weight distribution, gives you a lot more power, most of it useable (until you get into higher hp, but that presents its own set of challenges - I've been in an 800 horse 427 Cobra rep that would barely hook up till halfway through third...) The thing is that for people of my generation and before, one of the most iconic sounds a vehicle could make was that of the Ford 5L. I know that it "makes good sense" to put a 350 into a Miata or just turbo/supercharge the stock motor but there's an appeal to me with the particular sound the 302 makes and the experience of driving a V8 roadster. It's a car that is meant as much for hooning as autocross or a track day and frankly does all three excellently.

this would be fun and all, but locally its completely useless. i dont even think it has any kind of HVAC system..

As an alternative to the V8 Miata, I would also consider the Exocet as well:

Flyin' Miata : Exocet kits

For what it is worth, yes, the LS engine will also fit.

^^ Exocet isn't worth it anymore. It got popular so the quadrupled the piece and didnt redesign it. On principal alone I'd say fuck it
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yep 200 hours, supposed to be easy(or easier) car to build.

https://www.factoryfive.com/kits/project-818/

^ and looks like videos on that site says 250 hours

one that I saw said 200 hours...so i dont know whats true

I don't know about the Exocet's history, so I look it a purely from an overall package point of view. At the end of the day, you are looking at a 1500-ish lbs street legal car with a stiff chassis, proven and well-supported powertrain, suspension, and wheels and tires. Assuming a $5k donor car, you are looking at ~$13k + labour. To me, that seems like a pretty good deal. How many other cars can you name that would deliver this kind of performance at a similar price point?

^^ a stock miata with the same amount of money in mods LOL
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Does that surprise you at all? A lot of well-sorted (production street) car will easily have more money spent on mods than on the car itself.

you need to do some more research on 5.0l ford engines. They may start out at 225hp but so much more is possible with simple bolt ons and much cheaper than an ls1

I don't think you understand me. From what you posted, my response is a 5k miata with 8k mods would be way faster then a stock miata with an Exocet kit.
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but it's an iron block 5L V8.

super heavy compare to aluminum block LS1.

An entirely valid point. With the Exocet, you really need to invest a little more than the basic $13k to get something good out of it. I would think that by the time the total invest gets closer to $17-18k, the Exocet's 800 lbs (lighter) advantage would really begin to shine.

You do know you can get 300 rwhp out of a 5.0 very easily right?!

Absolutely. You're way better off buying some surrey jack rusted 94-97 miata and convert it. Who cares if the top leaks or the interior is ratty, it's all coming out. Odds are you'll do a good tune up on the stock motor anyways ( ignoring modding for this example) so a higher km BP will be just fine.

OR just get a write off from an icbc auction for pennies and go to town. Doesn't really matter if its a "rebuilt title" if you're doing Exocet, as long as the ladder frame is intact
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It's not that much heavier because the deck is shorter, there isn't nearly as much webbing, the internals weigh less as well.

According to Google: Ford blocks are ~135lb and the LS1 blocks are 110lb

LS1 Total Dressed Engine Weight: Auto. - 457.6 lbs. (208 kg); Manual - 497.2 lbs (226 kg) LS6 Total Dressed Engine Weight: (Manual only) - 497.2 lbs (226 kg)

http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/library/txt/engfyi.htm

According to this page a fully dressed 5.0 is 450 lbs


Also I believe the T5 is something like 60 lbs lighter than the T56 as well


The Ford 302 with aluminum heads is actually pretty light, I've seen on Rx-7 forums where FD owners said the 302 swap was slightly lighter than their 13b turbo setup.

All these links make me want either a monster miata, or something small/light swapped with a V8.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time, space, or skills to do any of the labour, so I think it would cost me at least $20K for a decent build. For that amount...I could buy a Z06 C5.