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wasabisashimi 04-22-2014 04:53 PM

2014 Lancer EVO MR vs 2015 Sti
 
Can someone explain why the ancient 7 yr old EVO MR costs more than the coming WRX Sti?

I have a family friend who is debating between both.

Tone Loc 04-22-2014 05:06 PM

Last of its kind, perhaps? It's not like they'll be making any more after this year... I personally wouldn't be surprised if some dealers weren't marking them up.

TOPEC 04-22-2014 05:08 PM

wasnt the MR always priced quite a higher than post 08 stis?

maxx 04-23-2014 12:08 AM

thats a stupid question. and they cost the roughly the same. you or your friend are simply complaining that an outgoing model of one brand costs the same as a upcoming model of another.

why does the 2013 M3 (outgoing) cost the same (actually more) as a 2013 RS5 (upcoming)? same stupid question, different cars.

Timpo 04-23-2014 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi (Post 8459798)
Can someone explain why the ancient 7 yr old EVO MR costs more than the coming WRX Sti?

Because that's the price Mitsubishi came up with.

Back in 2005, people couldn't understand why NSX was priced at $143,000+tax for the ancient 15 year old car when you could buy a Viper, Vette and 911 for less.

http://www.fatwallet.com/static/atta...r_1024x640.jpg

mpr 04-23-2014 09:35 AM

MR has dual clutch transmission

The manual evo x is similar price to the sti
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mos_skeeto 04-23-2014 10:44 AM

I don't think Mitsus are selling too hot so you might be able to get better deals on them.

heleu 04-23-2014 11:37 AM

Well, to be fair to the Mitsu, the STI still has the "ancient" EJ engine that originally dates back to the late 80s...the engine has been in Ward's 10 best engine list several times, and no one complains that its old.

Timpo 04-23-2014 03:38 PM

also he's comparing 2014 and 2015 models

Timpo 04-23-2014 03:43 PM

I still don't think 2014 Sti and 2015 Sti have significant difference other than some facelifts, some minor tuning here and there, etc.

STi and Evo have been stuck with approx. 280-300hp for decades now.

I would have hoped at least 450+hp by now.

Timpo 04-23-2014 03:47 PM

and I honest think that old Sti looked better

http://www.dreamcarsite.com/photos/c...wrx-sti-06.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/14...-side-view.jpg

GotRice? 04-23-2014 04:19 PM

atleast STi stick to its turbo gas engine... evo is going hybrid...
Mitsubishi developing new standalone hybrid Evo successor - Autoblog
Hybrid Evo gets green light | Autocar

Mancini 04-23-2014 04:29 PM

It's a 7 year old design. You're looking at a brand new car.

You expect the msrp to drop every year until there is a redesign?

bloodmack 04-23-2014 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotRice? (Post 8460349)

If they do it right.. no turbo will be able to outpace it..

Timpo 04-23-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotRice? (Post 8460349)

This is called technology improvement.

Back in the day, people thought fuel injected cars have lost their "soul" because they were no longer carbureted.

Same goes with steam locomotive and bullet trains/MAGLEVs.

bomiheko 04-23-2014 09:28 PM

I would totally get a hybrid evo. Hybrids have a lot more torque than regular combustion engines. If Maclaren and Porsche can make a hybrid hypercar, Mitsubishi can make a hybrid sports car.

wasabisashimi 04-23-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 8460356)
It's a 7 year old design. You're looking at a brand new car.

You expect the msrp to drop every year until there is a redesign?

I don't expect it to drop, but I am wondering if new Sti has more improvements over the 7yrs old EVO for cheaper market value

underscore 04-23-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 8460356)
It's a 7 year old design. You're looking at a brand new car.

You expect the msrp to drop every year until there is a redesign?

I'd take a design that has been proven for 7 years over something new and full of potential issues just waiting to appear.

Swonz 04-27-2014 06:17 PM

well its 4B11 or EJ257. The EJ has been here for a pretty long time sooo I'd take the STI...

zilley 04-27-2014 06:43 PM

LOL, then everybody will just wait till the last year of production to buy it, if you think the price should be cheaper than the other competitor just because they have a new model coming out.

and plus, your comparing it to Sti, thats coming out with a new model.

what if you were comparing it to some other company.

Sunfighter 04-27-2014 08:30 PM

I don't know why people shy away from first-production run (MY) cars... it's 2014, not 1993 and we are talking about Japanese cars....

I pounded on my 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi (first MY in North America) for 6 years and 200,000KMs and that car never ONCE skipped a beat! Not once.

underscore 04-27-2014 10:21 PM

^ first year for that model, but wasn't it heavily based on the previous model?

Sunfighter 04-27-2014 10:44 PM

Fair - but the 2002 WRX before it wasn't problematic either. :). That's what prompted me to buy the STI. :)
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heleu 04-28-2014 02:57 PM

Both WRX and STI had been released in Asia/Europe/Australia prior for years prior to that release date...so I think it's not really a first year model.

Timpo 04-28-2014 06:44 PM

2002 WRX looked like a Dodge Neon


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