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04-12-2025, 03:43 AM
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#40601 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Funny, I just had this convo with a few friends over dinner. Here's my tier list in terms of compliance over straight up performance (so fun daily driver spec). Best to worst
1. KW CS on FK8 CTR
2. OEM FK8 CTR
2.5 HFP Suspension on FA5 Civic Si
3. Bilstein B8 + H&R Race springs on E46 330ci
4. Extends on FK8 CTR
Tein Flex Z on CSX-S
Ohlins R&T on 996 GT3
5. Racelands on E36 M3
6. STA XTA on E46 M3
7. KW V3 on 964
8. Silvers on F10 535i
9. KW V1 on R53 Mini (the old one)
10. BCR on MK7.5 Golf R
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|| RIP 02 E46 330ci | Schwartz Black II | 5MT | M-Tech II | Black Cube | Shadowline | Stoff Laser/Anthrazit ||
|| RIP 02 E46 M3 | Carbon Black | 6MT ||
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04-12-2025, 05:35 AM
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#40602 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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What you really want is 4 leaf springs ya nooooobs. It’s called an ox cart.
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04-12-2025, 08:37 AM
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#40603 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Yabadabadoo
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04-12-2025, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS  8. Silvers on F10 535i | Curious about the Silvers on how this was decided and your impressions.
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04-12-2025, 11:41 AM
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#40605 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes Curious about the Silvers on how this was decided and your impressions. | I think my friend ruined his car imo, cause I remember what stock felt like. While body roll is now controlled and it looks good lowered, it's a bit too crashy for my liking - rides worse than racelands imo (could be weight diff). The car handles decently well, but my rating is based on compliance and comfort, with performance into consideration. All coilovers definitely handle better or as good as OEM FK8 suspension, but all of these coilovers aside from the KW CS, feel too meh for me to switch out of the OEM FK8 suspension.
I think I'm due for a suspension refresh in the FK8. It's not shot, but it's definitely worn and I can tell that it's much worse at 120K than what it was at 50K (duh). If I had it my way, I'd replace with Bilstein B8 + springs and call it a day. I don't have the budget for good coils, and I'd rather do shock + springs over budget (sub $3K) coils. Unfortunately, there's no Bilstein application for the FK8.
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|| 18 FK8 | R-18692 | Rallye Red | 6 MT ||
|| SOLD 97 E36 M3 Sedan | Arctic Silver | 5MT ||
|| RIP 02 E46 330ci | Schwartz Black II | 5MT | M-Tech II | Black Cube | Shadowline | Stoff Laser/Anthrazit ||
|| RIP 02 E46 M3 | Carbon Black | 6MT ||
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04-12-2025, 12:36 PM
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#40606 | | RS Veteran
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I was curious about Silvers because they just appeared out of nowhere and was unsure whether they were up to snuff or not.
At 120K, yes, time to refresh the suspension and wear items such as motor and transmission mounts.
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04-12-2025, 02:01 PM
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#40607 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS I think my friend ruined his car imo, cause I remember what stock felt like. While body roll is now controlled and it looks good lowered, it's a bit too crashy for my liking - rides worse than racelands imo (could be weight diff). The car handles decently well, but my rating is based on compliance and comfort, with performance into consideration. All coilovers definitely handle better or as good as OEM FK8 suspension, but all of these coilovers aside from the KW CS, feel too meh for me to switch out of the OEM FK8 suspension.
I think I'm due for a suspension refresh in the FK8. It's not shot, but it's definitely worn and I can tell that it's much worse at 120K than what it was at 50K (duh). If I had it my way, I'd replace with Bilstein B8 + springs and call it a day. I don't have the budget for good coils, and I'd rather do shock + springs over budget (sub $3K) coils. Unfortunately, there's no Bilstein application for the FK8. | A good spring goes a long way. I was in the Swift camp because they make quality springs back in the day. I'm not sure if it's still the case, but Swift replacement springs is a huge thing for the BC coils world. The other choice is Hyperco but I'm not sure Hyperco makes street springs.
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04-12-2025, 02:17 PM
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#40608 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Swift springs on stock shocks is a horrible idea on the type r. Way too stiff. Idk why people pair springs onto stock shocks.. seriously.
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|| RIP 02 E46 330ci | Schwartz Black II | 5MT | M-Tech II | Black Cube | Shadowline | Stoff Laser/Anthrazit ||
|| RIP 02 E46 M3 | Carbon Black | 6MT ||
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04-12-2025, 03:13 PM
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#40609 | | Performance Moderator
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BB knows so much about rough rides
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04-15-2025, 06:07 PM
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#40610 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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94 Toyota Previa $1000. Edit: price bumped up to $4000 now �� https://www.facebook.com/share/1PJME...ibextid=wwXIfr
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04-15-2025, 07:20 PM
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#40611 | | Lomac owned my ass at least once
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That's pretty base, no swivel captain chairs, no spoiler no sunroof, also no mention of mileage
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04-20-2025, 07:22 PM
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#40612 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Decent? 09 Acura CSX Type S, pretty low mileage @ 150K kms, clean title, $12K https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...type=top_picks  | |
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04-20-2025, 07:50 PM
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#40613 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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It's crazy to me that's not a 5k car, but it is what it is these days. Looks well kept at least.
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04-20-2025, 09:07 PM
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#40614 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by westopher It's crazy to me that's not a 5k car, but it is what it is these days. Looks well kept at least. | Even 2017/2018 pricing would have been 9-10k? Definitely not 5K.
For ref, my first E46 was a 6-7K car iirc.. and that was a gigantic POS hahah
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04-20-2025, 09:26 PM
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#40615 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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Yeah but its 8 years older than 2017. The idea of things like civics and Camrys appreciating is fucked.
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Originally Posted by punkwax Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct. | | |
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04-20-2025, 11:12 PM
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#40616 | | Lomac owned my ass at least once
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Not really appreciate but bottomed out? Enough of them crashed, rusted out so it went back up price like your e30s
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04-21-2025, 07:48 AM
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#40617 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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The fact that any new car is 40k for anything sporty drove these things up cuz no one can afford anything anymore. That's the only reason these 5k cars are 9k cars.
I don't think there are THAT many ppl the long for a 20 year old civic, but a new Si is 40k before taxes.
Whatcha gonna do
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04-21-2025, 08:06 AM
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#40618 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Yah, there is a market for $10-12K used cars, then there is the next level used car, maybe $20-25K price point, not everyone is going to drop $40-50K down for a new car, what are your options out there?
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04-21-2025, 08:38 AM
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#40619 | | Performance Moderator
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CSX Type-S is really rare compared to the Si... not a lot of differences, but they always have a premium on them... I would suspect a similar Si would be in the $8-9k range asking
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04-21-2025, 08:47 AM
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#40620 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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^ yah, there is always the Acura label tax over Si. Si's are all over the place, CSX type S is considerably rarer.
Weird thing is that people will buy the Acura CSX type S and then put a red Honda logo on it.
As comparions, I mean people can ask for whatever they want but ... 2009 Honda civic si sedan, 140K kms, CA$15,980 at a dealer though https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...b-e4f1381065a7  | |
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04-21-2025, 08:53 AM
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#40621 | | Performance Moderator
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Holy slammed... I can hear that thing in my head creaking over every bump in the road
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04-21-2025, 08:56 AM
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#40622 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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These will have to drop below the 20s at some point, then it’ll be a free for all https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds...838484385.html
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04-21-2025, 09:01 AM
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#40623 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Turbo charged depreciation machine
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04-21-2025, 11:02 AM
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#40624 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD | these are insane value wow, I wish I bought this for $24 vs $38K 
Oh well $14K for 6year warranty
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04-21-2025, 11:39 AM
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#40625 | | Lomac owned my ass at least once
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^^ so how reliable are they, does the engine blow up mysteriously like all other Korean engines. Too bad the new ones just look weird, it's not as cool and aggressive looking as the original one. It just looks too round and bubbly.
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