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Old 04-26-2015, 07:35 PM   #10251
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Anyways, there's a sweet powerpick for Subban to score 4 points or more, (he has 3 atm) and Canadians to win the series.

2.80x payout..worth a decent bet.
Pretty scary huh? LOL PK with the clutch assist in 19:38 of Period 3

Had a HUGE bet on it too
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Highly doubt Benning scouted around for no reason. I think he's got every intention to move up and acquire a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
with the young teams that were at the u-18 it feels like benning wanted the opportunity to see the 2016 class multiple times. the american, and finnish team have a lot of good prospects for next year, while canada and sweden had a few as well. of course he got to see white, erikkson ek, etc as well who should be around our pick
the draft really isnt that good in the 2nd or 3rd rnd, unless its early 2nd round. so i dont really see him targeting this year unless someone overpays for an expendable part. next years 2nd and 3rd round are much better.
as for blockbusters, i dont see it. moving up a couple spots in the first i can see, or ditching a goalie/prospects for picks next year... but thats about it.
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Pretty scary huh? LOL PK with the clutch assist in 19:38 of Period 3

Had a HUGE bet on it too


Well played sir, wellllll played
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You got to admit, the magic that burke pulled off in 1999 was probably the most exciting draft a canucks fan ever had. We'd have to go on an epic tank buffalo style for something like that to happen again.
This was pretty exciting too


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Pretty scary huh? LOL PK with the clutch assist in 19:38 of Period 3

Had a HUGE bet on it too
Not sure what our definitions on huge bet is, but I had some decent money on it too LOL.

yeah, I was ecstatic when he assisted that empty netter.

Nerve racking but Subban is clutch. I had a small bet last year and he was clutch then so placed a bigger bet this year. Not too shabby, almost all my bets won or tied/voided.

Now on to next round of betting!

P.S. I still have john torts not becoming a coach and blackhawks to place and Rangers to place. But looking at the teams, I'm starting to think Anaheim is going to take the cup. Ryan Kesler for Conn Smyth Lol.
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If they resign Matthias... I'm throwing in the towel lol.

It'd be like Kassian. Big guys but aren't really entirely effective.
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the draft really isnt that good in the 2nd or 3rd rnd, unless its early 2nd round. so i dont really see him targeting this year unless someone overpays for an expendable part. next years 2nd and 3rd round are much better.
as for blockbusters, i dont see it. moving up a couple spots in the first i can see, or ditching a goalie/prospects for picks next year... but thats about it.
true but it's better to have some picks than no picks in these rounds no matter how much of a hit and miss they are. No one can positively or even conclusively state that a draft is good or bad in the 2nd or 3rd round. That judgement doesn't usually come out until years after the draft.

how do you know 2nd and 3rd round next year are better? lol there's only speculation on the 2016 first rounders and even that's gonna change by mid season ranking next season so to suggest that 2nd and 3rd round next year will be better is pretty much like saying April next year will be nice and sunny with temperature ranging in the mid to early teens.

i'm ok with them re-signing Matthias as long as they don't overpay
he had a pretty shitty last 20 games and was pretty invisible in a physical series so to be honest if he walks, it's not like we'll miss out on a lot.
tbh, i'd take my chances with a prospect in his spot if they play good enough in training camp.

lol prepare for some fails though, some people here go apeshit and go on the defence when the topic of releasing big bodies who can skate and score some goals comes up.


Overall, this year has been a booming success compared to last season. Made the playoffs and developed a few good prospects but there's clearly a lot of work to be done.

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I think this season went well is that we know we have what kind of player in Bo Horvat and what kind of player we have in Ronald Kenins.

Before, management seems to be reluctant to inject any youth in the line up thinking veterans would bring you to the cup finals.

This season and this particular playoffs show that you don't need a lineup full of veterans to win. Hard work and younger players can win games for you too.

I'm hoping to see some younger guys come up next year but it's hard to expect any results close to what Bo had. I think Bo had a more mature game and mentality than most.
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I think management is still reluctant to inject youth...if they're not, then at least WD still is.

Which i find pretty fucking stupid. This was coming from a stubborn rookie coach who favored useless Tigers alumni *coughcoughfuckingVEY and was quoted at the beginning of the year that he was unsure of having a 19 yr old on the roster. The same coach who completely forgot how to coach in the first couple of games in the series.

That puzzled me, and its something that's gonna follow him around his time in Vancouver. So what if you have a 19 year old in your roster? Even if he was 18 (inb4 Bennett jokes), it shouldn't matter. It's a results-oriented business and sport. That kind of mentality along with his favoritism seems like a recipe for disaster when the franchises's best option is to open up more spots to the youngsters next season.

Hopefully, he learns from the fumbles and the complete rook mistakes. If he goes on with the whole stubborn routine next season, I hope Travis Green is building a good case to be promoted to the big club.
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Whenever I think of "refusing to inject youth into the line up", I think of this


dat look of disgust on AV's face, tho
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If they resign Matthias... I'm throwing in the towel lol.

It'd be like Kassian. Big guys but aren't really entirely effective.
Judging by his comments to the media, sounds like he's going to take free agency cash.
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Judging by his comments to the media, sounds like he's going to take free agency cash.
That and the fact the Canucks only have 4M in cap space to re-sign 5-6 guys, him being non-existent in the last 20 games + the playoffs...

.. He likely won't be back
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That and the fact the Canucks only have 4M in cap space to re-sign 5-6 guys, him being non-existent in the last 20 games + the playoffs...

.. He likely won't be back
Most likely a mutual agreement that he's walking who knows

Here's the Horvat move from game 6

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I like Matthias, but he played small in the playoffs. Needed him to step up and be physical and, if anything, he was less physical than he was in the regular season.

Given the $$$ he wants, no thanks
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Wow, what a sick goal by Kuznetsov!

Go Washington. -wanna see the Reds eliminate AV and the Blueshirts.

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Not sure what our definitions on huge bet is, but I had some decent money on it too LOL.

yeah, I was ecstatic when he assisted that empty netter.

Nerve racking but Subban is clutch. I had a small bet last year and he was clutch then so placed a bigger bet this year. Not too shabby, almost all my bets won or tied/voided.

Now on to next round of betting!

P.S. I still have john torts not becoming a coach and blackhawks to place and Rangers to place. But looking at the teams, I'm starting to think Anaheim is going to take the cup. Ryan Kesler for Conn Smyth Lol.
IIHF World Championship bets online now, I know Canada typically hasn't really done well in this tourney but this years team looks pretty good compared to the other teams.

Duchene - Crosby - MacKinnon
Hall - Giroux - Seguin
Toffoli - Spezza - Eberle
O'Reilly - Couturier - Schenn
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Barrie - Hamhuis
Ekblad - Burns
Savard - Muzzin

Smith
Jones

Perhaps a question mark in goal with Smith and Jones, but at 3.60x, I'll take that shot. Russia is currently listed as the favorite.

Also parlayed Canada IIHF WC champs with Tampa and Washington winning tonight on another ticket, so that ticket is looking good so far.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Be9lrCLG3g
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Because that would mean that Canucks fans were right, and it always was the coach's fault. Just like it was with Torts and it is now with Willie.
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Because that would mean that Canucks fans were right, and it always was the coach's fault. Just like it was with Torts and it is now with Willie.

It has nothing to do with AV. I wanna see Ovie hoist a Cup! Although Trotz has the Capitals playing a more physical, defensive style game, this team is exciting to watch. They have plenty of firepower.


As for AV, I do not put all the blame on what happened at the end of the 2011 cup run on him. He shares some responsiblity for what happened during that playoff run.
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So today's TSN1040 poll question is did the Canucks have a successful season or was it a disappointment?

My answer ties in with these 2 comments about AV, Torts, and WD.

AV could have and should have done a few things differently in game 7 of the final.

The Canucks core last year was a playoff team. They should have been in the playoffs, but Torts is great of a coach that he managed to make a playoff team miss the playoffs.

Is WD a good coach and was this year a successful year? Sure you could say that. But again, the team should have been a playoff bound team with the players that we had.

Look at the Rangers. Torts made the playoffs but didn't go too far. With basically the same core, AV was able to take the team to the finals in his first year. This year, with Lunquist out for a good period of time, the Rangers were still able to win the President's trophy.

Going back to the poll question question. I view this as neither a successful nor a disappointment of a year.
It's great that the team made the playoffs, but this loss showed everyone the short comings of the team.
D guys don't help much producing points. Hammer and Bieska are getting old and no longer the same guys that help take the team to the Finals in 2011.
Edler is still Edler. Has some good moments, and a lot of bad moments.

Twins are still the twins. Yes they had a lot of puck possession time in the FLames end, but it was the Flames that allowed them to maintain that puck possession because it is hard to score from the perimeter.

Burrows isn't getting the same offensive output he did 2 years ago playing with the twins.

Bonino is no where near Kesler's dominance and the second line's lack of production really hurt us. I'm on the fence about him being our second line center going into the future.

Mathias played the same game in Vancouver as he did in Florida. He has a big body but plays a very small game. As a 27 year old player, he admits he still watches youtube video's to help him be a better power forward.

Higgens is a bandaid solution to the Nucks missing top 6 forwards. He is a great PK/third liner. He did show some chemistry playing with BoHo, or Boho is that great and is able to play with many different guys.

Vrbata was a great signing but he alone isn't enough to help jumpstart the second line and WD really should have had him on the top line with the twins.

Hansen is Hansen. He will always be a great third/fourth line winger and PK guy. Nothing more. To put him on the top or second line is really asking a lot out of him, especially since he plays a different game from the twins.

Dorset isn't bad, but again he is a little undersized for what he is supposed to do, which is hit and fight. He is good defensively and has some offensive upside so it doesn't hurt the team by having him.

Vey, McMillan, I don't understand why these 2 guys are part of the team. They need a lot of development but right now they look like 3rd/fourth line guys at best.

The PK was good in the regular season but stunk it up in the playoffs.
The team needs to take a look and see what can be done to take less penalties next season. Even if the PK is running at 90%, they are still letting 1 goal in every 10 penalties.

The PP needs a lot of help. Off the rush, the PP scored a few goals, but when it comes to set plays in the offensive zone, the passing is too slow and there is no one in front of the net. Henrik never leaves his office which is around the right side faceoff dot.
Weber needs to position himself better for the one timers.
If they are going to go with the big shot from the point, then they will need a grinder in front of the net to get the rebounds.
Vrbata and Edler should not be on the top PP line if they do go with Weber's shot. In fact, they can't play Edler on the PP because he is a lefty and no one is a play maker from the left half boards. They need to address this issue.

Hammer and Tanev on the PP, now you know the team has nothing.

But the biggest issue I see, is the coaching will not change and WD's lack of willingness to play youth or anyone that isn't from Medicine Hat.
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Many had interesting things to say on their 2014-2015 seasons and how they see the team moving forward.

Lack’s future in Vancouver
Eddie Lack, who proved he’s ready to be a starter in the NHL after replacing the injured Ryan Miller in February, was asked if he’d come back to Vancouver wanting to play more next year.

“Yeah. I feel like I proved I can play a lot of games in a short amount of time… Obviously I want to play. Everyone always wants to play, though.”

Lack was pushed on if he’d mind sharing the net with Miller.

“This is where I always picture myself playing in the NHL… I definitely want to stay… If they want me here, I’ll stay.”

Lack went on, saying he’s a team guy and he’ll play whenever he’s asked to – either way he’ll always be there for his teammates.

Miller was also asked about how he’d handle more of an even split with Lack.

“I think Eddie did a great job. He’s a quality goaltender. We talked about that coming in – that we needed to support each other and to cheer for each other… I found it easy with him, he has a genuine smile.”

One more on Lack. Chris Tanev chimed in on the goalie’s popularity.

“I don’t know why Eddie is loved by the fans so much. Twitter I guess? Something I don’t have but he definitely uses.”

Miller hasn’t regained his quickness
Ryan Miller, who looked slow in Game 6, spoke about where he’s at in his rehab process:

“I need to rehab a little bit. I need to get the muscles surrounding that area back to being as quickfiring as they were before.”

So Miller – Vancouver’s goalie – playing the position that requires more reflexes than any other, didn’t feel his muscles were firing all that quickly…

This might explain that lateral movement problem during that critical game.

The Sedins did ask to play more
After playing around 16 minutes in the first three games of the playoffs, the Sedins ice time was a major talking point.

Henrik Sedin admitted he and Daniel lobbied for more playing time during the playoffs.

“We talked about wanting to play more but that’s the way we’d been winning all year, so you can’t really talk too much about that.”

Heading into the off season, Henrik was asked about the core and if he thinks it can win.

“We have no plans of getting any worse… with the young guys coming up, it looks good for this organization.”

“It’s the first time since we’ve come in that we’ve been excited about the young guys and the prospects.”

“Getting younger doesn’t mean you won’t have a chance to win the Stanley Cup.”

Meaning fans wanting the Sedins traded should probably stop wasting their energy.

That’s as likely to happen as the Sedins getting traded, though.

Sbisa knows nothing of pizza
Jeff Paterson asked Luca Sbisa if he had any idea about how his pizza comment took on a life of its own online (after a pre-season game against Edmonton, Sbisa called his giveaway a “pizza”).

Sbisa said he doesn’t read what the media says about him and has no idea about it.

“The Pizza thing, I don’t know, you guys tell me how big it is…

Sbisa Pizza, I guess – fire it up.”

Looked like Sbisa at least has an idea of how fans perceive his game, though. Asked where he thinks he needs to improve:

“I think consistency. Don’t have a great game and then a bad game. Be solid every night… I don’t think I’m great at anything, I don’t think I’m terrible at anything. Obviously there’s so many things I need to improve on. I just think mentally, especially playing in this market, it was tough at times.”

That answer alone tells you how low Sbisa’s confidence is.

We won’t know how good Sbisa is until he starts believing in himself – something that probably won’t happen as long as he’s playing with another guy who’s not performing at the top of his game (Bieksa).

Hamhuis and Bieksa don’t want to waive NTCs
With half of Vancouver wanting the core broken up and traded, Tony Gallagher asked both Dan Hamhuis and Kevin Bieksa how they’d react if asked to waive their no-trade clauses.

Hamhuis was surprised:

“That’s not something I’ve ever really thought of. I’m not really prepared to give an answer on that. That’s something I’ll think about if that were to happen, but probably more something to talk with Jim (Benning) about.”

While Bieksa was more offended:

“I’ve never had to cross that bridge before – haven’t heard it brought up by anybody in the organization. I know you guys are poking around. That’s your job, but it’s not something I even really need to respond to…”

“Never been asked. My loyalty’s always been to this organization.”

Bieksa was also asked about if the core of this team can win.

“What’s the winning formula? Until you win the Cup, who knows what it is. All I know is this core gives us a good chance to win every single year. There’s a lot of good people on this team and on this core.”

Asked if they’ll be joining team Canada for the world championships, Bieksa said he hasn’t had any contact with the team – meaning he hasn’t been asked – and Hamhuis said he’ll be playing.

Kassian’s back injury
One of the biggest recurring questions about the Canucks in the past month and a half was about the status of Zack Kassian.

Kassian explained he hurt his back in a scrum with Toronto’s Dion Phaneuf. He said since the injury he tried skating and tweaked it “a couple times.”

Still, he wasn’t ready to concede his season.

“I came to the rink rehabbing every day…thinking if we made it to the second round I could play.”

No wonder he snapped on Twitter when Satiar Shah (from TSN 1040) suggested he needed surgery to repair the injury.

Burrows’ cracked rib
Canucks fans lived through anxious moments as Alex Burrows was taken from the Saddledome in an ambulance prior to Game 4.

Burrows said Monday he has a fractured and displaced rib and the injury occurred just after his fight with Kris Russell. The rib cracked when the linesman was on his back.

“It was probably the most pain I’ve felt in a while when it happened… moving around was really complicated, really painful.”

Which explains the need for the ambulance.

The injury requires 6-8 weeks rehab time.

Richardson needs surgery
Brad Richardson missed a significant portion of the Canucks games down the stretch. Turns out he was playing through ankle fracture and ligament damage even after he returned.

He will have surgery next week, but expects it to be nothing major, just an arthroscopic “clean up” of the area.

Is Matthias done in Vancouver?
Since the signings of Derek Dorsett and Luca Sbisa, many wonder if the Canucks will have any cap room left to sign Sean Matthias, whose contract is up this year.

Matthias’s thoughts:

“We’ll see. They have a lot of decisions to make. They have a lot of guys under contract. I’m not going to worry about it, not going to hold my breath but I do really enjoy playing here… I had a lot of fun this year and I’d love to be back.”

And on potentially going onto the market as a free agent.

“This is overwhelming for me, to be honest. I don’t know what to tell you… If I go to July 1, I’m going to do what’s best for myself. I’m not too stressed over it. I’m going to go home, have a beer and relax.”

Considering we were supposed to be ramping up to watch Game 7 tonight, I think Matthias has the best plan.

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