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pb.kidz 08-22-2014 09:26 AM

Hit Cyclist
 
Tldr: at intersection making a right turn at a green light, as my friend makes the turn a cyclist on sidewalks runs into the side my friends car and first she was nice about it then she started saying shit hurt when her told her to. She's going to claim it, there's no witnesses. Chances of winning ?

She ran into the passenger side door of buddy's car

nsx042003 08-22-2014 09:44 AM

no chance...

cyclist being on the sidewalk or not, your friend didn't see the bike and proceeded to make the turn.

cho 08-22-2014 09:45 AM

"friend"

Qmx323 08-22-2014 09:47 AM

Wait, the BIKE hit the car on the side?

That means the car was basically done the turn, and the cyclist proceeded to go INTO a car.

You gotta clarify where the damage on the car is dude, if its on the front bumper or the front side, you buddy is screwed.

If its on the door or behind that means the cyclist hit the car, not the other way around. Since the bike proceeds at a much slower pace, the cyclist should have been able to see and react.

Cyclists also have the obligation to be aware of their surroundings, unfortunately most people aren't very self aware.

Totally depends on if the car side swept the bike.

Best of luck to your friend.

pb.kidz 08-22-2014 09:50 AM

The cyclist hit him... She hit the passenger side door.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qmx323 (Post 8519844)
Wait, the BIKE hit the car on the side?

That means the car was basically done the turn, and the cyclist proceeded to go INTO a car.

You gotta clarify where the damage on the car is dude, if its on the front bumper or the front side, you buddy is screwed.

If its on the door or behind that means the cyclist hit the car, not the other way around. Since the bike proceeds at a much slower pace, the cyclist should have been able to see and react.

Cyclists also have the obligation to be aware of their surroundings, unfortunately most people aren't very self aware.

Best of luck to your friend.


Klobbersaurus 08-22-2014 09:50 AM

i would say the cyclist is at fault because he was riding on the sidewalk and not on the street where he was supposed to be

was the cyclist a hipster?

Qmx323 08-22-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pb.kidz (Post 8519846)
The cyclist hit him... She hit the passenger side door.

If she does indeed claim, make sure your friend emphasizes where the damage is.

Damages from sideswipes and full on cyclist smash look different.

Whoever the authorities are (does ICBC handle Vehicle vs. Cyclist?) should be able to determine from the damage patterns.

E-SPEC 08-22-2014 09:56 AM

What shitty details you just gave.

snails 08-22-2014 10:00 AM

Brother was hit by a car while on a bike, nothing happened cuz he was riding on a sidewalk not the street when he was crossing

trollguy 08-22-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klobbersaurus (Post 8519847)
i would say the cyclist is at fault because he was riding on the sidewalk and not on the street where he was supposed to be

was the cyclist a hipster?

i hope bcrdukes is okay.

meme405 08-22-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cho (Post 8519843)
"friend"

These infamous "Friends". :fuckthatshit:

MeowMeow 08-22-2014 10:52 AM

Similar situation.
Mine came 50/50

saiko 08-22-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by slowguy (Post 8519856)
i hope bcrdukes is okay.

#nailedit

Teknique 08-22-2014 10:59 AM

I was in a slightly similar situation last year. A young lady riding one of those electric pedal bikes attempted to make a lane change and basically rammed into my right front wheel.

I was fortunate to have someone behind us with a dash cam who caught it on footage. She claimed to be poor and could not afford to pay to repair my car (her exact words were "can't you just pay for it? You look rich"

She was ok, but her foot was a little swollen from being pinched between her bike and the car. I called ICBC to report it, but I was informed that because she was on this electric bike thing, it was not an ICBC insured vehicle, and she has no insurance that I could claim against. If I were to file a claim, it would have to be as a single vehicle accident and pay my deductible.

After getting some quotations and obtaining the footage from the witness, her uncle offered to pay for the refinishing of my rim and I signed a waiver of her liability. Really left a bad taste in my mouth that someone can share the road with cars but not be insured against damages they can cause, I would hate to have to go to small claims court for this.

In your buddy's case, I get that the bike lady is going to claim against you, but in terms of the damage to the car caused by the bike, you would have to go after them outside of ICBC, at least, in my experience.

Truenosan 08-22-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MeowMeow (Post 8519883)
Similar situation.
Mine came 50/50

Same here. I was on my bike, and stopped at an intersection. Driver had a stop sign, and was fully stopped. I start to go, he creeps out, and next thing you know, my foot is trapped between his front bumper and my bike. ICBC ruled it 50/50.

MeowMeow 08-22-2014 04:06 PM

Mine was more so I was creeping out at a stop sign to turn right,
Cyclist was on sidewalk perpendicular to my direction, going opposite direction of the traffic, no helmet, had her ipod (which are all illegal according to Richmond bylaw)
I had those tall tree/bushy fences so didn't see her coming, she rammed into me

bcrdukes 08-22-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowguy (Post 8519856)
i hope bcrdukes is okay.

I wasn't at first, but after a sip of that Godly shot of espresso carefully prepared at Tigers Drink House on their Nuova Simonelli, I felt so much better.

I will update this thread later with a sonnet regarding this tragic accident.

meme405 08-22-2014 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 8520049)
I wasn't at first, but after a sip of that Godly shot of espresso carefully prepared at Tigers Drink House on their Nuova Simonelli, I felt so much better.

I will update this thread later with a sonnet regarding this tragic accident.

Heyyy I have a Simonelli espresso machine. I have a red Oscar model, fuck is it ever the best money I spent...

heisenberg 08-22-2014 05:59 PM

arent cyclist suppose to walk their bikes across the cross walks? unless the cross walk says they're allowed to bike across it like at rupert skytrain station.

mk1freak 08-22-2014 06:00 PM

sub'd for sonnet :fuckyea:

Hondaracer 08-22-2014 06:42 PM

Cyclists shouldn't be able to claim shit like this if they aren't insured themselves.

Why the fuck does my dirt bike need 3rd party liability on a remote logging road yet a cyclist doesn't? What a joke

Amuse 08-22-2014 07:13 PM

Supposed to shoulder check on right turns for pedestrians and cyclists.

Louhasnocash 08-22-2014 07:20 PM

The MVA states that cyclists must follow the same traffic rules as the cars. That means if they want to turn left they have to go on the left turn lane. If they get on the sidewalk or use the crosswalk and hit a car. They are 100% at fault.
I speak from experience, as a cyclist hit me like that last year. He first started by giving me threats saying he broke a joint and sprained an ankle or something. He called ICBC and told his story, and I called and told mine. He got ruled 100% at fault. But I have to pay my detuctible to repair the $2200 damage on my doors and a broken window. I called him a bunch of times after but no response.
So if they hit you like that, do your research. He is suppose to be 100% at fault. ICBC does not treat cyclists any different than cars. Draw a picture of what happened and tell your story watching it. I am almost certain that ICBC will rule him 100% at fault. But you will have to pay the detuctible anyhow.
Good luck!

MeowMeow 08-22-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louhasnocash (Post 8520079)
The MVA states that cyclists must follow the same traffic rules as the cars. That means if they want to turn left they have to go on the left turn lane. If they get on the sidewalk or use the crosswalk and hit a car. They are 100% at fault.
I speak from experience, as a cyclist hit me like that last year. He first started by giving me threats saying he broke a joint and sprained an ankle or something. He called ICBC and told his story, and I called and told mine. He got ruled 100% at fault. But I have to pay my detuctible to repair the $2200 damage on my doors and a broken window. I called him a bunch of times after but no response.
So if they hit you like that, do your research. He is suppose to be 100% at fault. ICBC does not treat cyclists any different than cars. Draw a picture of what happened and tell your story watching it. I am almost certain that ICBC will rule him 100% at fault. But you will have to pay the detuctible anyhow.
Good luck!

Well I guess you got lucky or I was unlucky
Like your incident, mine was on the sidewalk, opposite direction, and was crossing.
Municipal law states for you to cross with a bike you can't be on it . She was going opposite direction of traffic flow so that's against mva. There were all sorts of other stuff Cyclist wasdoing wwrong
I listed out Richmond municipal law and mva to the adjuster. He still ruled it 50/50 simply because I had a stop sign and I was crawling out despite the fact I hate limited visibility
I should have fought back but whatever.

SkinnyPupp 08-22-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qmx323 (Post 8519844)
Wait, the BIKE hit the car on the side?

That means the car was basically done the turn, and the cyclist proceeded to go INTO a car.

Not necessarily. It's more likely that the driver didn't shoulder check, and just blindly turned right, cutting off the cyclist who was riding on the side of the road going straight.

The way I see it, this "friend" most likely caused the accident, and it will be tough for her to "win" the case.

SHOULDER CHECK PEOPLE. Fucking hell.. Green doesn't mean "just go blindly"


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