Cadillac ATS-V Coupe M4 fighter
 

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2016 Cadillac ATS-V Leaks Online

pretty much matches M4 specs, probably similar price. Interesting to see head to head comparisons

This looks pretty hot. I wonder if the fully loaded price is going to be expensive..

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Shame it won't have an LT1 under the hood. I know the benefits of FI 6 or 4-cyl engines nowadays outweigh the benefits of larger displacement NA engines, but these cars won't ever have that feel of an NA V8 or produce the same sound.

It's the same reason I'd rather take an RC F over any of these new boosted V6 engined two door performance coupes.

6 speed manual? :megusta:

mm looks pretty good would love to see a head2head between the m4, ats-v, rcf, c amg

you can't replace a M3/M4 with a Cadillac.

Similar specs and price? Sorry but why the hell would I choose a Cadillac over M4?

Most reviews have said the ATS is a better handler than the 3 series so I'll take a guess that the ATS-V will be a better handler than the M3/M4.

99.9% of people who will drive this or the M4 will drive them like grannies

because of other bmw owners.

interior looks so fucken cheap....and looks like they put in a speedometer from a 90s silverado.

Don't be dumb. That looks like the speedo out of a 2015 Silverado...lol

If you would consider this over an M4 at the same price point you are:

a) Old as dirt
b) Have no grasp on what kind of engineering goes into an M car
c) All of the above

When your not sure, go with c)!

It will be interesting to see what they price the ATS-V at.

Of course, ATS-V vs M4 is no contest (M4 wins), but I wouldn't be surprised if they price it very close to the 335 or S4. It's hard to ignore that value proposition.

It's similar to what Caddy did for the CTS-V vs M5.

If this was substantially cheaper, sure. At a similar price point? Not a chance in hell.

GM always undercuts the European competition in pricing.

The ATS was intended to target the 3 series and did a pretty damn good job with it. That said, Caddy and BMW have 2 different audiences altogether. Neither group would cross shop.

The ATS-V could cost half the price of the M4 and the M4 would still probably sell more units.

The average V buyer cares more for 0-60 & 1/4 mile times than the complete package.

If you buy a BMW without testing both you are a poser.

the BMW M = automatically better mentality really has to get snuffed out like :seriously:

i dislike domestics and caddy's but i'm still willing to see how the testing reviews pan out

Will definitely be 10-20k (if not more) less than an m4. While I agree the m4 is pretty hard to compete with, I wouldn't knock the ATS-V until you have driven both.

Will you ever get a realistic review though? Every mag will fanboi out just like all of us do. Its pretty "in" right now to pick the american car over the european car just because the Z28 on race tires put down similar times around 1 track as a 911 turbo on street tires (yes I know the Z28 is incredible, but the test I'm talking about everyone remembers and they really stretched the truth to get people hyped.) On the other hand, M car fanbois (lots of reviewers and mags) "know" that nothing can ever beat an M car ever, for anything, at anything, and if they can, they are too "boring, numb and riddled with driver aids." We will just be reading a bunch of opinion pieces. My opinion piece involves the caddy looking like a 2 door version of a modded aztek
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I cant imagine this:
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compared to this, on aesthetics alone.
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^ that was actually pretty badass aztec showcar with an LS1 and six speed

cadillac has shown steady improvement. they dont make excuses anymore the ATS is same price as 3 series, most mags say it has best handling of entry luxury cars. I expect ats-v will be similar price to M4 and give it a good run.

biggest advantage for me is cadillac will probably depreciate into my price range much sooner

Actually the 911 they tested didn't have street tires. Porsche pulled a quick one on motortrend and threw track tires on to the car before it was handed over to them.

As for the caddy looking like a modded Aztek, I want some of whatever the hell you're smoking..

What you talking about? That's a Cadillac. :badpokerface:

hah thats funny about the porsche if its true. Its like one big circle of lies in that test. As for the caddy to aztek, its a stretch, but they clearly are from the same design idea of take a chisel to a brick and throw some wheels on it.