Man Dies after Being Shot by Police Man dies after being shot by Vancouver police - British Columbia - CBC News Quote:
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Well... ...don't fuck with the police. |
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Winter = can't use tasers bean bag rounds and bullets pew, pew pew, pew. Vancouver does have a problem with drug addiction/mental health, especially among the homeless -- wouldn't be surprised if he had some underlying condition. Anyways ... better a perp die than a cop who serves the community/is a fully functioning member of society. Sad but true |
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No, i wasn't there to assess the situation. But after reading the article, I still think it's excessive. Quote:
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That's the problem with these sorts of events: all the armchair police critics come out of the woodwork. |
Should of used rubber bullets not real ones |
scurred of a 2x4 |
Rubber bullets/bean bags aren't "non lethal." They're considered "less-than-lethal" because the potential for fatal injuries are less than real bullets, though they are still more than capable of killing someone. Sorry, just bothers me when people consider them to be non-lethal. /tangent As for what happened, until there's some sort of video footage of the full incident, I don't think any of us can judge what should or should not have happened in this case. |
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He was wearing a thick jacket so they couldn't use their tasers. Scene looked like he had been hit by a car when i drove by a few minutes after the initial shooting. Wasn't until that I watched the evening news that I realized what I had seen |
Not commenting on how appropriate it was for the police to end up using lethal force (real bullets) to take the person down, but quite frankly, I am very surprised that the bean bag rounds didn't work. I would never have thought that a thick winter jacket is all it takes to defend against them. |
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If rain = taser, then that's not the same as it rains all yr here and it wasn't raining when this happened, me thinks |
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Read the title, and a moment later, i look just below and sure enough... TRAUM. Waving two by fours...not a good idea. |
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There will always be people that unquestioningly agree with what the police do. Perhaps you might fall into that category, but I most certainly am not one of those. And let me assure you, you do not want to live in a place where everyone unquestioningly agrees with what the police do. |
I guess i will say that for the record, I never said you jumped to any conclusions. It was just one of those ”this is going to be a CIC thread" moments. Rest assured Traum, I do not identify myself under that catagory, and whole heartedly agree with the notion that more information must be obtained before jumping to any conclusions..... |
I remember this one time a guy was waving a 2x4 around and I got scarred... Oh wait, no I don't. |
hmm I though pepper spray would be better than rubber bullets or bean bags since is less lethal? |
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he brought a 2x4 to a gun fight |
If the subject advanced towards the officers with the 2x4 in an aggressive manner after already refusing to comply with instructions then it was a good clean shoot, that is what needs to be determined here. |
Officers have a one plus one standard of force, meaning that they have the authority to use one higher level of force than that with which they are confronted. The only thing that justifies lethal force is to immediately halt what the other person is doing. The mere presence of officers should've been enough to de-escalate the situation. If not, officers will use dialogue, or verbal judo. Empty hands (physical force) will be a level up, followed by compliance tools (equipment/weapons to gain control of the situation). Lethal force should be the last resort to reduce lethal threat. There isn't enough evidence to conclude, but I'm going to conjecture that the shooting wasn't justified. I find it difficult to believe a 2x4 to be an imminent lethal threat |
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My mind is blown. |
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