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Old 11-28-2014, 08:38 PM   #1
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Mercedes AMG GT S - First Drive by LA Times







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The question first popped up when the 503-horsepower Mercedes-AMG GT S roared to life one cool morning last week in San Francisco: This is from a German car company, right?

With a throaty burble at idle, and crackling exhaust when you lift the throttle, it sounded more like an American muscle car than a German sports car.

Later that day, on the famed Laguna Seca track in Salinas, the car's American flavor — loud, rude and easy to provoke into tail slides — seemed even more pronounced.

The GT S is gunning for the Audi R8 and the Porsche 911, with their characteristically German precision and buttoned-up road manners, maintained even at blistering speeds. The GT S, by contrast, is a riot from the driver's seat. Visceral and alive, you can almost feel a pulse coming through the suede-wrapped steering wheel.

The 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S made its North American debut last week at the L.A. Auto Show, which is open to the public through Sunday. To go on sale next spring, the GT S is the first offering from Mercedes' recently renamed performance subbrand.

The slightly de-tuned but mechanically identical base GT model will arrive in 2016. And the AMG crew will still build frighteningly fast versions of nearly everything else in Mercedes' growing stable: sedans, SUVs, station wagons, whatever.

The AMG GT models are loosely based on the gull-winged SLS AMG, and they use a derivative of the SLS's aluminum frame. Compared with the outgoing SLS, the GT shaves two inches off the wheelbase and 3.5 inches off the overall length.

Its proportions are seductive: a long hood and high beltline, matched with a low-slung cockpit that melts into a rear end with a fully-retractable rear spoiler. This car has no edges; one panel flows into the next.

Inside, the cockpit wraps around the driver and passenger, who sit low within the car's clutches. There's plenty of headroom, even for tall passengers wearing helmets. Trunk space under the car's sloping hatchback is a usable 12.4 cubic feet.

Downsides include poor visibility and ergonomics. Mercedes put the transmission's shifter too far back on the center console. And too many buttons crowd around the shifter, controlling suspension, transmission, exhaust and four driving modes.

But the cockpit is nonetheless beautiful and assembled with a fanatical attention to detail. The interior is as curvaceous as the exterior, and slathered with leather, suede and brushed metal.

Nestled in that center console is the engine's starter button. Press it and the GT's burly V-8 roars to life before settling down with a hearty rumble.

Around town, the GT S we tested was surprisingly stiff, even with the suspension set to "Comfort." Be prepared for a jarring ride if your commute is anything like the pockmarked mess of San Francisco streets.

But once the road smooths out and the traffic subsides, the GT is a world-class athlete.

The engine never lets on that it's turbocharged; there's not a whiff of lag or hint of turbo whine anywhere. It pulls the car toward the horizon with astonishing acceleration, hitting 60 mph in 3.7 seconds, and never lets up. Top speed is 193 mph.

Heightening the experience is the orchestral roar flowing from the two trapezoidal tailpipes.

The GT and GT S have a seven-speed dual-clutch automated transmission. It's hyper-quick, though less smooth than the one offered by Porsche. The light steering takes a little getting used to, but feels more natural as the car builds speed.


Despite a 3,500-pound curb weight, the car changes direction with sure-footed poise. And yet it was still easy to break the tail loose in a predictable drift. Smart stability control software and an electronically locking rear differential keep the car facing forward and clear of track-side walls or roadside ditches.

By virtue of being a German sports car, Mercedes will inevitably draw comparisons to the Porsche 911, which is offered in infinite configurations from $100,000 to $200,000.

Based on power output, the AMG GT S would most closely match up with Porsche's 520-horsepower 911 Turbo. But that car has a rear-mounted six-cylinder engine and all-wheel drive, giving it fundamentally different handling than the front-engine, rear-drive AMG GT S.

The Porsche Turbo also costs more, with a starting price of $152,000 — about the price of a loaded AMG GT S.

Better to just acknowledge that the AMG GT is a wholly different car than anything with "911" glued to its tail. And that's a good thing. There's plenty of room in this rarefied market segment for competing philosophies.

The GT S faces other worthy competitors, including Aston Martin's excellent-yet-aging V-8 Vantage, the Nissan GT-R, Jaguar F-Type R AWD and the aforementioned Audi R8 family.

Similarly priced 911s offer more precision and speed, and would probably hustle around the track in less time. But the wilder, louder AMG GT S is more concerned with having fun. Consider it German with an American accent.
First drive: Mercedes-AMG GT S muscles in on the sports car segment - LA Times

My take?

Love the front and side profiles.

I'm not a fan of the current Mercedes models' front profiles, but the AMG GT S is very, very appealing.

The back, however, is not appealing.

It has a 3.7 0-60 time, which is OKAY for a $152,000 USD (fully loaded) sports car.

For Mercedes, from a business standpoint, it's a great time to come out with a sub/low $100,000 car.

The existing competing models are ageing, so it's a great time to come out with the AMG GT and AMG-GT S.

What do you guys think?
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I think we're going to see a dozen of these in richmond by early in the new year. Should sell well, great looking car with nice specs.
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they just had to ruin the interior with that huge ass tom tom gps at the center.
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With all the sls around I wouldn't be surprised
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when did apple join Mercedes?....wait that ipad in the middle isn't removable?
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It looks like someone glued a Samsung tablet to the middle of the fucking dash
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What a way to ruin the car's interior by installing a tablet. -probably a cost cutting design by the engineers.

You would think a Mercedes engineer can install a pop up display into the dash.
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Relating to the tablet, really surprised haven't seen a lot of, if any people, wear the appropriate grey colored lenses suited for these gizmo screens.
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Looks like a Jag F Type with a Benz grill, hideous. I would rather have the 2015 Z/28, only .7 seconds slower in 0 to 60, and I would be fine with only 172mph top speed, would never get it up to that speed anyway.
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seems like the photographer forgot his tablet in the car before taking pics


can never understand why they decided on these and then they bought so many of them that they're stuck with using it
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im gonna be honest, car looks like shit
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SLS was special, this car not so much.
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Second that. This car looks like a souped up SLK... but far far away from the R8/911 it's trying to compete.
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SLS = cock car, that you use to cruise around in and assert your male dominance over others.

AMG GT S = drivers car.
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I think you're on ALL the drugs!!!



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It has a 3.7 0-60 time, which is OKAY for a $152,000 USD (fully loaded) sports car.
3.7 seconds to 60mph/100kmh is huge feat for a car that has all the bells and whistles, and weighs 3500 lbs. The performance to dollar ratio is high with this car, and I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of them on the roads very soon.

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If performance per dollar is concerned, and I quote:

"GT-R"
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Actually that goes to the z06 corvette now.
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Looks like a Jag F Type with a Benz grill, hideous. I would rather have the 2015 Z/28, only .7 seconds slower in 0 to 60, and I would be fine with only 172mph top speed, would never get it up to that speed anyway.
I would rather have a practical family car. I can bring the whole crew and I won't get it up to its 130 mph top speed anyway. Good grief what a terrible comparison.
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I was going to say... People always talk about how ugly the Pontiac Solstice coupe is... well here it is again as a Mercedes and everyone is saying how good it looks

If anything the benz is even uglier
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