Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma
(Post 8572627)
I think the only people that have an honest and real opinion are the people that do coke, or have done coke. the rest have no idea what the fuck they're talking about, they're just basing it off some anti drug shit they've been programmed with (and perhaps you are too, take that into consideration).
to be honest, anyone that uses coke to party... 3g with friends isn't much.
20 lines of coke can easily be done in a night... like per person. you do like 1-2 lines every 30minutes, it's not much.
coke parties aren't like... other drug parties where you just do one or two and you're good for the rest of the night.
you'll sit there around a table and keep doing it till it runs out, the high is fairly short... hence the reason you keep doing it (the nature of the drug, all coke users will do this).
using it weekly though... i duno. Even partying every week and getting wasted on alcohol is already kinda fucked IMO LOL. but some people like partying and just going out...
3g per week partying with friends (sharing), in my opinion is a normal amount of coke.
if he only does it like 1-2 times a week. it's not addiction.
what i consider addiction is when a person does 1-5g PER DAY, BY THEMSELVES. I know a few people that have fallen into that pit. It's VERY obvious when you're addicted to coke. They become shitbags at work, at parties, in all aspects of life. they can't go 1-2 hours without getting all frustrated and wanting to do another bump.
addiction is habitual. you do it almost every single day. u do it before u work, during work... imagine cigarettes. people take smoke breaks. cuz they're addicted to cigarettes. they need their constant fix.
that's what coke addiction is. u need your fix all the time. u take coke breaks, u go to the washroom every hour or whatever and do a bump here and there. all day.
if he's using the 3g with friends just 1-2 times a week, it should be ok. but it's borderline. it will be hard to give up that 1-2 times a week partying with friends (but who doesn't have a hard time giving up friends? that's essentially what he's gonna have to do, ditch his friends).
u can tell when someone is on coke cuz they talk a lot more, become a lot more impulsive, they're always sniffing and act a bit jittery. and obviously don't eat a lot (reduced appetite) and they probably can't sleep very well (although people that are used to uppers or have ADHD can fall asleep on stimulants).
Why don't you wait till he's actually addicted. some people have very good self control lol. i know people that can do coke weekly for... years, and they seem like absolutely normal people with normal lives (if i didnt know about their coke use).
some people just become these weird addicts almost immediately.
chances are he might not be addicted. he could just be going through a coke phase that'll pass after 1-2 years.
I've done like maybe 5 coke sessions in my life. and even as a "newb" we consumed much more than 3 grams per session. and every session i've had was like... started at the club, and ended at noon or something ridiculous. As i recall it was almost a gram per person stretched over the whole session. mind you, i didn't do this every week. these 5 times were over the past 7 years. I personally don't find coke addictive outside of the sessions. but during... is another story. you will keep chasing it till you run out or until every dealer is asleep and wont deliver haha.
everyone has a drug of choice. most people stick with alcohol and cigs and coffee.
some people like amphetamines class of drugs. some people like coke. some people like downers.
i know enough people that do their choice of drug and lead absolutely normal lives (married with kids, their wives don't know, they have good jobs and good lives). but it isnt HABITUAL. it's like once every few months.
another thing i've noticed is newbs to drugs (younger people), always fall into phases where they fall in love with some drug of choice and do it a lot for 1-2 years, then they get bored of it and just quit partying.
like i said, he could be going through a phase.
as long as he isn't becoming this super impulsive, sick and thin looking, constantly sniffing, and can't get anything done properly type of guy, he's probably ok.
coke has been highly glorified and all that shit by the media. It isn't that crazy bad unless you're a hardcore addict.
if he can quit smoking, he can probably quit coke. smoking is harder to quit than quitting coke LOL. IMO smoking everyday is worse than doing coke once a week
oh yeah, you should probably try to talk to him like... not after he comes home from a party high on coke. never argue or have a debate with someone who is on coke. wait till the next day.
trust me, if he is a decent person, there will be one late morning where him and his friends run outta coke. and they're all tired looking and staring at each other like "what bags of shit we are" and that thought will emanate more and more till one of them goes "im not doing it again". and then the crowd will follow. and the only people that will be left doing it, are the ones that have a hard time giving it up.
remember, if it's not habitual, it's not addiction. habitual is something you need to get your day going, something you constantly think about, something you need before you do the next thing on your to do list. something you need every time it runs out on a daily basis (again think about cigarette addicts and coffee addicts. those actions are habitual/addiction). unless someone is acting like that, but with coke, they're not addicted. trust me on that one. keyword is DEPENDENCE.
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