Bill C-11
 

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I like how people are so flippant about paying for content, even when faced with new laws. The solution isn't to actually pay for the stuff you're enjoying, it's to find new ways to get around it.

For me it's not even about the laws... It was just so easy for so long to disassociate content creators from the content itself. "well it's right there on torrent, why should I even pay for it?" That might have even worked well in the days of $20 CD's and $30 DVD's.

But now with new pricing schemes - $5 rentals on youtube, Netflix streaming at a monthly price, even pay-per-views are like $20 now, or $10 a month like what WWE is doing. Games almost instantly drop 50% in price, and can reach 70% off after a year or so on sales. Why would you bother to pirate? Is it because you're just so used to it?

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Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person that pays for music and movies.
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The sense of entitlement is what bothers me... Are people like that for everything? If you can get away with stealing food or clothing, why not just do it?

to those who are using the private inter access vpn. Which server did you guys use in your openvpn router setting? The one i'm using is kinda slow

Usenet + SSL encryption ftw

I work for one of the ISPs and from what the big guys said the E-mail is a warning to the user. It doesn't mean much as none of your info is being pass to anyone. The only time your info will be release if it is from the police with a warrant.

So in short unless the movie studio etc etc... goes through the length of trying to sue you and get a police warrant and take you to court there is nothing to worry about. WILL they go after you? They could but the chance is slim unless you are running a sever that shares copy right content (IE IPtorrents). you really have nothing to worry about.

BTW Telus have been sending these E-mails out for years already so is nothing new.Regarding the warnings. We have been getting those warning E-mails from studios for ages already. They always end up in the deleted folders but now all we do is forward our customers the E-mails. Nothing more.

Here you go Ulic

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Can someone TD;DR ulics last 2 posts for me? Something about being entitled to money? And ownership is why we have wars? :fulloffuck:

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I never said anyone 'owns' anything. However there should be an exchange both ways when it comes to content. The creator lets you enjoy the content in exchange for something - obviously this is usually money. Sometimes it can be other things, like sharing their content, donations, or even in exchange for simple good will.

However spoiled fucks will always want it for free. Why? Because it has always been that way. Starting with their mom giving them what they want, when they want. Then along came napster and torrents. Instead of leeching off their moms, they are leeching off the internet.

Price points have been changing, where people who feel morally obligated to pay for content no longer feel ripped off for doing so. So the excuse of "it costs too much to buy a CD/DVD/etc" no longer exists. Now, by pirating shit, you're no longer being cheap. You're just still that greedy little 5 year old who is used to getting what they want.

No, you don't "own" the music you pay for. Nobody said you did. Just like you don't "own" the house you rent, or the gardener you hire to maintain your lawn, or the cell phone plan you're using. But you are paying for a service. It would be pretty shitty to hire someone to do a job, and then just not pay them. When they ask for their payment, you're just going to say fight me for it, and whoever wins this little "war" gets to keep the money?

I know none of this will get through to ulic, but I think other people will come across it. I know piracy is simply accepted because for a lot of people in their 20's and 30's, that's just how it always was. Mom buys you stuff until you can download it yourself easily. People aren't making this content for people to "share" (which is funny how this word gets used in place of copying or pirating by people trying to defend what they know is probably not actually sharing. If they do, they should look the word up in a dictionary)

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:fulloffuck: Well this conversation has ceased being useful for anyone else now. But I guess I can respond to some of the more coherent statements you made

I'm not the one judging, you are. My judgement goes like this: If you want something, you give what's asked for it. If you can't do that, you don't get what you want. I'm not deciding "who should have to pay". It's quite simple: Everyone should.

And I don't think there should be an "absolute system that is controlled". that would REALLY suck. I prefer to think that people will simply "do the right thing". Stop being greedy and lazy, and "do what's right". My thinking is that not everyone knows that what they're doing is not "what's right". They are just used to getting shit for free.

This is what's changing. "most people" was true 10 or even 5 years ago. Now it's just the greedy cunts, the lazy pricks, the clueless and the ignorant. "It's easy to get, so I'll get it" is the only excuse left now. Pretty soon that will be gone, and you will deserve every bit of "shunning" for doing it.

I got a good idea for Ulic, why don't you go and make a movie and spend millions and millions of dollars on it and tell everyone your movie is free and anyone can download at no cost.

Do that for a couple of movies and see how much debt you will be in.

In your reason no one owns anything and we should take what we want, if that's the case then why are you working? Why are you spending time to make money instead of enjoying your life and take whatever that you want and go travel for free? Why not just go to restaurant/supermarket and grab what you want or better yet go to your landlord and tells them that you will no longer pay rent because they don't own their house.

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Anyway, Private Internet Access is good, been using it for years. No complaints.

it's not tangible, therefore there's no value :troll:

still comes down to quality, timeliness and convenience for me

Movies: if video streaming can match Blu-ray quality I'll consider it. Otherwise I'll still continue to only buy the movies I really like.
Shows: torrent still allows me to view it in HD before it even airs on westcoast...so forget waiting 10 months for it to come out on Netflix.
Sports: there needs to be a centralized way to follow different sports while still being affordable.
Music: services need to support FLAC
Games: I'm satisfied with the current delivery system thanks to Steam

I dont even bother skimming over his posts in any threads anymore. They are all incoherent babble. Too much mind freeing drugs or something

i think its because i got used to going to x site or x service for content, the other day i wanted some software (powerdvd) and my initial reaction was to dl it (even though i buy my software these days) and i thought "you know i should look at how much this costs" and cyberlink is selling it for $50 + you get 3 other programs for that price and i literally thought to myself ":fulloffuck: why pirate?" so I just bought it...think it may be a growing up thing or a combination of age, prices dropping, and accesibility, photoshop, office, lightroom, etc are all really affordable these days (especially if you're still able to get student discounts) and downloading the software from the provider is so quick and easy these days

as for games i havent pirated one of those in at least a decade...they're just so cheap, especially if you're not concerned about or able to play on release day

can't remember what class it was that i took...but it was related that most people would steal if given the opportunity, especially if there were no consequences...can't recall exactly what it was but it separated people into 3 groups above is the gist of it