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Old 01-07-2015, 09:11 PM   #26
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It could be argued that any extremist beliefs are a result of mental illness as well. Anyone who believes actions like this are the correct outcome has to be at least somewhat unbalanced upstairs.
The thing is, this sort of "illness" or "unbalance" can be developed purposefully. That's pretty much how religion works come to think of it. You can't possibly be religious if you can think completely rationally. Instead, you get caught up in the system, and start believing things that don't make sense.

People have been manipulated by systems like this for centuries. Religion can be a tool to make people do what you want, whether for violence or peace, power or politics, or just to make money.
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I wouldn't be afraid to publish a magazine that is nothing but Jesus Christ giving blowjobs captioned with anti-Christian messages because nothing would ever happen save for a few harsh words
Mostly true.

But then again, you get nutjobs who kill one of the best musicians in history for saying his band was "Bigger than Jesus"...
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The thing is, this sort of "illness" or "unbalance" can be developed purposefully. That's pretty much how religion works come to think of it. You can't possibly be religious if you can think completely rationally. Instead, you get caught up in the system, and start believing things that don't make sense.

People have been manipulated by systems like this for centuries. Religion can be a tool to make people do what you want, whether for violence or peace, power or politics, or just to make money.
The problem is that the average person is dumb as fuck and pretty easy to manipulate should someone desire to do so.
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-wonder how the French are going to try to protect citizens from further terrorist attacks. It won't be easy with an estimated 5 million Muslims living in that country.

What if you have more people who also want to kill others in "the name of Allah" or an individual launching lone wolf attacks by killing him/herself and people nearby with bombs?


there's an estimated 45,000-100,000 jihadists in the world (2013 #s) US/RAND figures ( doesn't include militant groups like Hamas/Hezbollah fighting localized wars), other people and groups throw out different numbers but they don't appear to be as reliable (some muslims groups and people like glen beck and fareed zakaria), so anyway, an average of 72,500 and it's presumed most of those identified in that figure don't ever act out and do not move beyond a 'plotting stage' also most of those in that figure are believed to be residing in the Middle East (approx 50,000)... So 72,500 out of approximately 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world which is 0.000045% are considered potential threats

now in France with, as you say, an estimated 5,000,000 Muslims... 225 would be considered Jihadists and that's not considering the fact most jihadists reside in the Middle East (approx 50,000) if we took that into consideration then out of the 5,000,000 Muslims in France 0.000014% would be jihadists, 70 people, can't find the estimate of what "most" is for those who simply scream and shout and don't act out, but let's count it as 51%, that's 34 people who would potentially act out...but considering what we saw today isn't a common occurrence in France, I imagine the number of those who would 'act out' is even smaller than that and perhaps they've been extinguished already, hopefully

how they may act out isn't known either it could be funneling money to terror groups all the way to a physical attack

But 34 people is still 34 too many...my point though was it's crazy for you to say "omg there's 5 million muslims in France they're so screwed!" as if all Muslims are terrorists like


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http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand...RAND_RR637.pdf
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/r...ublication.pdf
and i think i took something from this not sure National Intelligence Estimate: The Terrorist Threat to the US Homeland

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1 suspect had turned himself in to the police according to the BBC, the youngest suspect (18yr old) and claims no involvement

and the other 2 are reported to have robbed a gas station in Northern France

BBC News - Charlie Hebdo massacre: Suspects 'rob service station'

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The two main suspects in the Islamist attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris are said to have robbed a service station in the north of France.

They stole food and petrol, firing shots as they struck at the roadside stop near Villers-Cotterets in the Aisne region, French media report.

According to the manager of the service station that was robbed on the RN2 road in Aisne at about 10:30 (09:30 GMT), the attackers fit the description of the two men, and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.

They are said to have driven off in the direction of Paris in a Renault Clio car, apparently the same vehicle hijacked in Paris soon after the Charlie Hebdo attack.

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The problem is with the pen and paper. We need to ban pen and paper.

This won't happen again once those two hellish tools of racism and destruction are removed from the hands of those who would do evil with them.

Pen and paper get people killed. Its time we realize that.
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After a long day of rapidly changing information, U.S. counterterrorism officials said Wednesday night that they cannot be certain of the status of the three suspects in the Paris attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine. Information from French sources has been contradictory, they said.

Earlier Wednesday, two senior U.S. counterterrorism officials told NBC News that one of the suspects in the attack had been killed and that two others were in custody. However, the officials later said the information that was the basis of that account could not be confirmed.

Authorities earlier identified the three men as Said Kouachi, 34, and Cherif Kouachi, 32, French nationals who are brothers, and Hamyd Mourad, 18. Late Wednesday, French police released photos of the brothers and asked for public help in finding them, and French authorities said the youngest of the three suspects had surrendered to police.
I don't understand how counter-terrorism officials get this sort of information wrong? So who'd they kill and apprehend then? lol
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If you are a 19 year old girl who is hot and wearing a skanky dress and you leave the club with a few strange dudes in their car after you've been drinking and you're alone, well... it is almost like knowing you live in a place full of extremists and you publish a magazine that basically exists to taunt the very people capable of mass murder


I wouldn't be afraid to publish a magazine that is nothing but Jesus Christ giving blowjobs captioned with anti-Christian messages because nothing would ever happen save for a few harsh words


Fuck if I were in Europe there is no way I would shit-talk muslims because they're so entrenched into the culture now that getting beheaded by death squads is becoming a real possibility. Remember this?


The Theo Van Gogh murder - Free Speech Martyr


I remember telling people 10 years ago that multiculturalism has made Europe a much less tolerant and comfortable place and people said I was Islamophobic! My dutch friends that taught me how to sell porn both had many dealings with Moroccan youth. Both said their fellow countrymen were blind idiots to how muslims have made Holland less safe, that lefty fucking retards are like a poison and are the true enemy.


BBC News - Dutch free killer of anti-Islam politician Pim Fortuyn


Lefty retard murdered an anti-immigration minister in 2002, Holland saw a massive increase in muslims during that time.
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Charlie Hebdo attack: Suspects killed, hostage freed in police raid near Paris

Two brothers suspected in the Charlie Hebdo newspaper attack who had been cornered and holding at least one hostage in a printing house northeast of Paris were killed in a police raid, police confirm.

The hostage was freed.

Meanwhile, in a separate incident, police raided a kosher market in eastern Paris where a gunman had taken at least five hostages.

Earlier, security forces had streamed into the small industrial town of Dammartin-en-Goele, near Charles de Gaulle airport, in a massive operation to seize the two men at the printing house suspected of carrying out France's deadliest terror attack in decades. One of the men had been convicted of terrorism charges in 2008, while the other had visited Yemen and a U.S. official said both brothers were on the American no-fly list.

Authorities evacuated a nearby school around midday Friday after the suspects agreed by phone to allow the children safe passage, Dammartin-en-Goele spokeswoman Audrey Taupenas told The Associated Press.

"They said they want to die as martyrs," Yves Albarello, a local lawmaker who said he was inside the command post, told French television station i-Tele.

Cherif and Said Kouachi are believed to be the masked assailants who methodically opened fire on an editorial meeting of the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, leaving 12 people dead in central Paris on Wednesday.

Charles de Gaulle had closed two runways to arrivals to avoid interfering in the standoff, an airport spokesman said. The town appealed to residents to stay inside.

The siege in Dammartin-en-Goele unfolded after the suspects hijacked a car early Friday in a nearby town.

Tens of thousands of French security forces have mobilized to prevent a new terror attack since the Wednesday assault on Charlie Hebdo, which decimated the editorial staff, including the chief editor who had been under armed guard after receiving death threats for publishing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad. He and his police bodyguard were the first to die, witnesses have said.

Cherif and Said Kouachi were named as the chief suspects after Said's identity card was left behind in their abandoned getaway car. They were holed up Friday inside CTF Creation Tendance Decouverte, a printing house. Xavier Castaing, the chief Paris police spokesman, and Taupenas. They said there appeared to be one hostage.

Christelle Alleume, who works across the street, said a round of gunfire interrupted her coffee break Friday morning.

"We heard shots and we returned very fast because everyone was afraid," she told i-Tele. "We had orders to turn off the lights and not approach the windows."

Prime Minister Manuel Valls has said both suspects had been known to intelligence services before the attack.

Also Friday, police said the gunman who took hostages at the kosher market in eastern Paris near Porte de Vincennes metro station had opened fire in the market and declared "you know who I am."

One person was seriously wounded in that hostage-taking incident, a police union source told Reuters. The interior ministry denied press reports that two people had been killed. Police sources said one person was injured after being shot.

The gunman is also reported to be the same person who shot and killed a female police officer on Thursday. Police SWAT personnel are on the scene.

Paris police released a photo of Amedy Coulibaly as a suspect in the killing Thursday of a policewoman, and the official named him as the man holed up in the market. He said a second suspect, a woman named Hayet Boumddiene, is the gunman's accomplice.

Police have ordered all shops closed in a famed Jewish neighbourhood in central Paris, far from the two developing hostage situations.

The mayor's office in Paris announced the closures Friday of shops along the Rosiers street in Paris' Marais neighbourhood, in the heart of the tourist district and about a kilometre away from the offices of newspaper Charlie Hebdo.
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Man this is like an episode of 24 or something, so hard to believe it's real life.

I hope the French police kill 'em all.

The real martyr here is Stephane Charbonnier, he wasn't afraid of standing up for free speech against these pieces of shit, he had balls bigger than most everyone else.
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Man this is like an episode of 24 or something, so hard to believe it's real life.

I hope the French police kill 'em all.

The real martyr here is Stephane Charbonnier, he wasn't afraid of standing up for free speech against these pieces of shit, he had balls bigger than most everyone else.
Kill them with a female. Apparently they believe that if you were kill by a female you will not go to heaven.
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Apparently it is Al-Qaida behind the Charlie Hebdo attack:

Al-Qaida takes responsibility for Charlie Hebdo attack | News1130

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CAIRO, Egypt (NEWS1130) – A member of al-Qaida’s branch in Yemen says the group directed the attack against the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris “as revenge for the honour” of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

The member on Friday provided to The Associated Press a statement in English saying “the leadership of AQAP directed the operations and they have chosen their target carefully.”

Twelve people were killed in the shooting.

He says the attack was in line with warnings from the late al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden to the West about “the consequences of the persistence in the blasphemy against Muslim sanctities.”

He said the group has delayed its declaration of responsibility for “security reasons.”

He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the group’s regulations.
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uncensored version in the spoiler (semi nsfw no blood or anything but the cops do take him out)

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Someone needs to pay Academi a retarded amount of money to seek out and destroy these shitheads one by one.
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A guy in my first aid course this week said he's seen ISIS recruitment posters around guildford mall and Surrey central?

And apparently there was some sort of Islamic state flag on a unit in that little strip mall across from the guildford red robin where the posters were referring people to come to a meeting? Wtf..
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And yet it can be argued that religious fundamentalists are a better reflection of the true nature of the religion because of their literal interpretion of their scriptures and the time they dedicate. While everyone else claiming to be religious cherry-picks their religion to suit themselves. Fools all of them.
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A guy in my first aid course this week said he's seen ISIS recruitment posters around guildford mall and Surrey central?

And apparently there was some sort of Islamic state flag on a unit in that little strip mall across from the guildford red robin where the posters were referring people to come to a meeting? Wtf..
that sounds impossible to me given how good csis and the rcmp are :/ did he report it?

maybe he confused something like a prayer rug for the isis thing, like that guy in Australia that had a prayer rug/flag in the window and everyone was reporting it as an isis flag, until later it was revealed that he was requesting an isis flag
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the leader of Hezbollah came out to denounce the Paris terrorists and said what they and their supporters are doing is causing harm to the religion than a cartoon could ever do



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(Reuters) - The leader of the Shi'ite Muslim group Hezbollah said on Friday that Islamist terrorists had done more harm to Islam than any cartoon or book, a reference to the attack by suspected Islamist militants on French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said what he called "takfiri terrorist groups" had insulted Islam more than "even those who have attacked the messenger of God through books depicting the Prophet or making films depicting the Prophet or drawing cartoons of the Prophet."

Takfiri is a term for a Muslim who accuses others, including another Muslim, of apostasy. Hezbollah considers members of ultra-hardline Sunni-dominated groups like al Qaeda and Islamic State to be takfiris.
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Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah: Extremists Harm Islam More Than Cartoons



which is pretty surprising as i'm not aware of any political/paramilitary group in the middle-east ever coming out to denounce a terrorist group
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which is pretty surprising as i'm not aware of any political/paramilitary group in the middle-east ever coming out to denounce a terrorist group
You know you've gone done fucked up when both Hezbollah AND Hamas are publicly denouncing your actions...
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