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Old 01-28-2015, 11:16 AM   #1
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$100,000+ for Pitt Meadow couple to bring newborn twins home from Mexico



At first, I thought this was another idiot couple who decided to take a babymoon, and ended going into labour in a foreign country. It's worse. I guess they decided to cheap out, and go for Mexican labor. So much for saving any money. They could have done a surrogacy in Canada for a fraction of what they'll pay now, and have superior health care to go along with it.

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CBC News - A B.C. couple who welcomed premature twin babies by surrogacy in Mexico earlier this month is now fighting to bring them home to Canada for medical care, and has turned to crowdfunding to raise donations to help.

Greg and Elaine Smith of Pitt Meadows, B.C., found a surrogate mother in Mexico through a paid clinic, because they couldn't find one in Canada, said Greg Smith's aunt Linda Pruden.

Babies Ayden and Ariana were born prematurely on Jan. 8 at 31 weeks, weighing just three pounds each, and have since lost weight and suffered numerous complications, said Pruden, who was in Mexico when the babies were born.

"They had it all planned out the way they thought it would go perfect, but of course it didn't, and now it's just turned into a nightmare."

A crowdfunding site set up by the extended family estimates the Smiths have spent $100,000 so far on the babies' care.

Both preemies remain in the neonatal care intensive care unit at Hospital Angeles in Villahermosa, Mexico.

Their Canadian parents are scared for the babies' health and unsure how to navigate the Mexican medical system. Pruden told CBC News the hospital was requiring payment of $5,000 Cdn per day, payable every four days.

"[Greg] is just a basketcase. He's a walking emotional wreck, and Elaine is the same way."

'I think they need better care'

Both babies are on respirators after their lungs stopped working, which is a common complication with premature babies. Ariana has also suffered several infections, and a serious brain bleed, said Pruden.

The Smiths want to bring the babies to B.C. Children's Hospital in Vancouver for medical care, but are being told they need to wait, said Pruden.

"We don't know if we should wait, if we can wait. I think they need better care than they're being given," she said.

According to the family, the largest stumbling block in bringing the babies home is Mexican authorities haven't issued birth certificates, which are required to start the immigration process.

The hospital is telling the Smiths a notary is required before the certificates can be issued, and it's not safe for the notary to enter the NICU, said Pruden.

The family is questioning that explanation.

"Mexican lawyers have contacted us and said it's all who you see and who you bribe, and then things will be done. So that's our next step," said Pruden.

A nurse in the hospital told CBC News that Ayden would be healthy enough to travel in a few days, but Ariana was in critical condition and could not travel. She did not have information on the birth certificate.
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just unlucky and bad decision making...poor bastards
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Only poor people here are the twins unfortunately.
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Why do we as a society constantly reward stupidity?

News outlets shouldn't even be allowed to air this shit. What's the difference between this and me going to Mexico and breaking my arm when I'm shit faced and then pleading to the media for help/money

I'd say breaking your arm drunk is actually smarter than what these people did.
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go to mexico to have your surrogate babies...

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i like how their blaming the mexicans for this. like it would be any easier to ship out premature babies born by surrogacy in any other country.
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go to mexico to have your surrogate babies...
I here it's pretty common. Some places are like baby factories.
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In kindergarten 3-5 years from now, every boy is going to be named Aiden, Ayden, Jaden, Jayden, Kaden, Maden, Bayden, Cayden, Raiden, Faden, Daden, Zaden, or something like that.

Every single new parent gives their kid that name
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They should have gone to Cuba to seek surrogacy, it's likely far cheaper than Mexico and there's excellent + free health care there
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The article states they're scared for the babies' health? More like for their wallet's health?

Healthy babies are born every day in Mexico. The population is thriving!
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go to mexico to have your surrogate babies...
Although it's now illegal, it's STILL the way to load containers in many parts of Taiwan (or many countries in Asia I'd say) since they simply don't have the platforms to load them properly.

I grew up watching my dad loading containers this way. And assuming the weight of the small forklift and the load is within the load capacity of the larger one, it's actually quite safe if the operators know what they are doing.
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Although it's now illegal, it's STILL the way to load containers in many parts of Taiwan (or many countries in Asia I'd say) since they simply don't have the platforms to load them properly.

I grew up watching my dad loading containers this way. And assuming the weight of the small forklift and the load is within the load capacity of the larger one, it's actually quite safe if the operators know what they are doing.
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You get what you pay for?? Not sure if appropriate.
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In kindergarten 3-5 years from now, every boy is going to be named Aiden, Ayden, Jaden, Jayden, Kaden, Maden, Bayden, Cayden, Raiden, Faden, Daden, Zaden, or something like that.

Every single new parent gives their kid that name
That is so fucked up, I was saying that for years that all of the Surrey and Maple Ridge single moms I knew had named their kids with double vowels like Kaeden, Aeden, Maeya and other such ghetto sounding names! Crazy to read your post.
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