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Old 09-02-2025, 05:28 AM   #526
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Thing is we shopped the V6 RAV4 in 2010....

Quote was for 38k on Limited V6 AWD w/ JBL and Leather. The Sport trim rode like shit on its 18s.
With the 2GR, you get 6.3s 0-60, 14.9 sec @ 92.9 mph
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...oogle_vignette

Over at MB, a GLK 4Matic was 42k - had standard auto diming rear/side mirrors, bluetooth (teenage me was very concerned about aux).
Dad was mad it took premium gas but Mom won this round.
Added premium pack for parking sensor, memory seat/steering/mirror, power tailgate - 45k OTD.
GLK: 5.8s 0-60 MPH, 14.4 sec @ 96.4 mph
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My surprise was moreso over the sleeper factor though. Given how aggressively bland Toyota normally is.

"More than you need" level of performance from a euro is kind of par for the course imo. You'd never be surprised by a randomly fast Merc, as they typically AMG everything they offer anyway.

But in any case I'm a big fan of the GLK. Wish they kept going down that road, instead of pivoting to the GLC blob.
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The Sport trim rode like shit on its 18s.
The Sport also has stiffer springs than the base and Limited.
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My surprise was moreso over the sleeper factor though. Given how aggressively bland Toyota normally is.

"More than you need" level of performance from a euro is kind of par for the course imo. You'd never be surprised by a randomly fast Merc, as they typically AMG everything they offer anyway.

But in any case I'm a big fan of the GLK. Wish they kept going down that road, instead of pivoting to the GLC blob.
GLC really felt like a fat step backwards
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The Sport also has stiffer springs than the base and Limited.
Yes to this. Any sport or SE trim within Toyota or Lexus has a stiffer spring rate than base, limited, or other trim.
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Exactly why I stayed away from any f sport variant. Utterly stupid to create a compromise that is completely unnecessary. Seats are stiffer , bolsters are rock hard, suspension is firmed up and yet it still drives worse than anything German . Just stay in your lane Lexus. I’m buying a RX for comfort, why would I compromise that with an F sport variant?!? People are crazy.
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But body kit la, don't you get nicer interior bits? But I guess it's too sport but not recaro sport
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What body kit ?!? F sport RX looks exactly the same other than the grille and the wheels. Fuck that shit. F sport maybe on an IS or GS but for sure not on a RX. That’s just stupid.
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It's what the market wants! F-Sport buyers don't want performance, they just want to feel like there's performance. They just want flashy bits and to be a little roughed up. These aren't the same as -F buyers.

If this wasn't true then Lexus wouldn't make money doing this, and if didn't make money they wouldn't do it
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I agree. There's a market segment that Lexus is catering to where buyers get the perception they are buying a sports car while buying a luxury car. It's also to cater to those who don't have the balls to pony up for a European marque (I'm looking at Porsche) and can't stomach the maintenance and IMS problems.

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Oh I’m sure it makes them money but I’m utterly baffled at the sheer amounts of ah mos who drives an F sport RX. Like do you idiots even know what you bought ? I purposely looked for the highest non f sport trim for my wife. Perfect for her
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Do they offer F Sport design in Canada?
Like just the appearance bits.

F sport ES/RX/NX are just 10-20% sharper.
Good for California mans where every road is kinda curvy and undulating.
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I guess that's as high as you can get for Lexus, just like the m sport, AMG appearance packages. More than you can afford pal real m/ amg
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Do they offer F Sport design in Canada?
Like just the appearance bits.

F sport ES/RX/NX are just 10-20% sharper.
Good for California mans where every road is kinda curvy and undulating.
I don't remember if you can add an F-Sport cosmetic package or not. It definitely won't have the suspension or seats etc. to make it ride like trash, though.
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yeah exactly "10% sharper" on a wiggly piece of tofu is moot. I rather have it 10% even more wiggly and comfortable. Whats the reverse F sport. G-Life.. geriatric life package plz. Anti hemroid super soft seats, jacked up so you can get in and out without needing to bend your knees, and when you take a turn it better heave over like a yacht.
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You just described a Toyota Crown.
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best. car. ever. id have one if i had more garage space.
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I don't remember if you can add an F-Sport cosmetic package or not. It definitely won't have the suspension or seats etc. to make it ride like trash, though.
US gets F-Sport Design and F-Sport Handling options.
Design is appearance only, Handling gets the variable suspension.

F Sport Performance is big engine + some handling bits for IS500 and RX/TX500.
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You'd have more space if you got rid of the RX!
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sure come get it, 50k, special price for you !!!!

110,000kms on it, driven by a tiny chinese woman who gives zero fucks. Instant startup, mash gas, and go. Went off a million curbs, does an alignment job at every dealership service. Wheels are scuffed to shit. no accidents though.... not even a minor one. and surprisingly no scratches...

sounds good? cash only, i know what i have. dont ask me if its available.

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I agree. There's a market segment that Lexus is catering to where buyers get the perception they are buying a sports car while buying a luxury car. It's also to cater to those who don't have the balls to pony up for a European marque (I'm looking at Porsche) and can't stomach the maintenance and IMS problems.

BRB, while I go cry in the closet.
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110,000kms on it, driven by a tiny chinese woman who gives zero fucks. Instant startup, mash gas, and go. Went off a million curbs, does an alignment job at every dealership service. Wheels are scuffed to shit. no accidents though.... not even a minor one. and surprisingly no scratches...

sounds good? cash only, i know what i have. dont ask me if its available.

Sale includes 50 of your worst designer bags too right?
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Maybe he dropped a patek or rolly when he tries to buckle the seat belt between the seats
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