No luck finding a summer job

[cruz-in]

I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :



and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,




i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

[cruz-in]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/04/v...mall-job-fair/

You can thank me when you get a job. Since they are opening lot's of new stores the chance of getting hire is much higher.

but on the positive note, ^ beat me to it.

Good luck!

[Hot Karl]

that's the problem right there. you're so naive if you think every job you have is going to be in direct correlation with your career. in your own post you say "we're not all like that" then go onto say why should you even both to work in any job not related to your precious field. the tone and content of your threads on this subject reek of entitlement.

your flippant attitude about paying bills says it all.

if you and or costco think you can't handle stocking shelves, maybe you should aim a little lower for your 2 month job. that's my advice to you since you clearly need the help.

[zetazeta]

Originally Posted by rzrshrp

Are you kidding me right now? What I meant was that even Costco won't hire me... Because I don't think it takes a lot of skill to be a stocker. And if I was "too good" for it I would not have applied for it a month ago. I have worked jobs in labour (including car detailing, etc.).

From what I've heard.. Costco is actually pretty competitive to get in since they are a great company to work for and pay very well compared to similar jobs in the industry. When you are desperate for a job to make ends meet, there's no job that's below you. Hell, go apply at McDonalds if that's the only place that'll take you in. I have a friend who had a 3.8 (SFU) GPA and worked at McDonalds for 6 years to make ends meet... He busted his ass there, got multiple promotions, and only left when he landed an amazing job in his field of study during his 4th year. IIRC, even when he was a TA at SFU he still worked p/t at McD's.

Originally Posted by zetazeta

Was in the same boat as you during the summer between my 3rd and 4th yr. I had a ton of retail and customer service experience but couldn't land a single job after applying to 20+. It's all a numbers game... sometimes the right resume or availability comes in just when a position is opened.

Funny thing is, I didn't end up getting any of those retail or CSR jobs but a few weeks later I landed an amazing internship at a great company. 3 years later, and I'm now graduated and still with the same company. Don't give up!

Quoting my post from the previous page...

To give you perspective, I had 1+ year of co-op experience (SFU accounting), 1 year of experience in an analytics/evaluator position, 2+ years of retail experience, and 3 years of service experience working as a waiter/bus-boy. On top of that, I had great references and recommendations from all my past employers, various volunteer experiences at SFU, and even a 'best customer service award' at one of my retail jobs. Even with all that, I wasn't able to land a single interview... and a lot of the positions I applied to were minimum wage, dead-end positions.

[cruz-in]

HERE IS THE ULTIMATE QUESTION :


are you willing to work for minimum wage?

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ let's put it this way there are grads then I know who would rather stay home, play games on their parents couch, go window shopping or just stay home and watch TV all day then rather go out get a job and at least earn some money.

Everyone starts of with the entry level job. No one out there is going to pay you 80k+ when you have 0 experience.

[rzrshrp]

Originally Posted by cruz-in

I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :



and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,




i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

LOL. I am sure I have all of that down! Here's to hoping I will get to that stage soon enough!

Originally Posted by cruz-in

but on the positive note, ^ beat me to it.

Good luck!

Thanks, good luck to you too!

Originally Posted by zetazeta

From what I've heard.. Costco is actually pretty competitive to get in since they are a great company to work for and pay very well compared to similar jobs in the industry. When you are desperate for a job to make ends meet, there's no job that's below you. Hell, go apply at McDonalds if that's the only place that'll take you in. I have a friend who had a 3.8 (SFU) GPA and worked at McDonalds for 6 years to make ends meet... He busted his ass there, got multiple promotions, and only left when he landed an amazing job in his field of study during his 4th year. IIRC, even when he was a TA at SFU he still worked p/t at McD's.


Quoting my post from the previous page...

To give you perspective, I had 1+ year of co-op experience (SFU accounting), 1 year of experience in an analytics/evaluator position, 2+ years of retail experience, and 3 years of service experience working as a waiter/bus-boy. On top of that, I had great references and recommendations from all my past employers, various volunteer experiences at SFU, and even a 'best customer service award' at one of my retail jobs. Even with all that, I wasn't able to land a single interview... and a lot of the positions I applied to were minimum wage, dead-end positions.

It seems so odd, having all this directly related experience and not hearing anything back, huh? I feel that our approach is probably off if we have the same experience as everyone else. That or our resume format is off. I would love to speak to you about this some more as I am in a similar position as you, except I haven't graduated yet.

Originally Posted by cruz-in

HERE IS THE ULTIMATE QUESTION :


are you willing to work for minimum wage?

I do work minimum wage at the moment! It's part-time so I make next to nothing! I want to be able to afford school and other expenses for the year. But overall, I don't mind working for minimum wage!

[zetazeta]

Originally Posted by rzrshrp

It seems so odd, having all this directly related experience and not hearing anything back, huh? I feel that our approach is probably off if we have the same experience as everyone else. That or our resume format is off. I would love to speak to you about this some more as I am in a similar position as you, except I haven't graduated yet.

Naw man, theres nothing 'off' about the approach. When it comes to minimum or near minimum wage jobs... just keep applying until you land one. Hopefully your resume and CL if applicable is in good shape.

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

when you type shit like "even stocking at costco!"

really hard for me to take you seriously when i read shit like that from someone who is supposedly hurting for a job.

not just you but alot of folks in that age range are too good for alot of jobs. fastfood? security? labor? any sort of cleaning? those are all jobs for immigrants and poor people right? what if someone sees me in public in my stupid work shirt?!?!!

those jobs aren't cool enough for the kid living at home with zero work experience.

i was grinding out full time jobs in the summer by 14. i got no respect for folks who won't pull up the sleeves and get dirty if need be.

I spoke to a client few months ago who was a McD manager and he basically told me fewer teenagers these days are willing to apply for food & beverage positions because they overvalue themselves. Just 10 years back I slaved away part-time for $6.50/hour...so I think they don't realize just how good they have it @ $10.25.

Good luck to OP...I didn't get hired during a Costco summer intake during my college years and I remember being choked about it too. It will all work out but don't be afraid to keep on with the min wage job for the time being. Why not look for on-campus jobs?

[dachinesedude]

package handler at fedex/UPS/DHL is always a good bet if you are willing to put in the physical work, the turnover rate is pretty high

and dont think of it as just a labour job, work there long enough and you will be able to choose to do non-physical tasks like data processing or QA

they usually throw in the new guys to do the most physical stuff but you wont have to do it for long term

[Fafine]

thought places like starbucks or lordco (driver position) is always hiring.
bet if you submitted an application to lordco back when you started hunting, you'd have a job with them by now lol

[mr_chin]

Originally Posted by rzrshrp

Well, it would be nice if we put the skills we learn to use (lab techniques, research, etc.). But I see what you are saying. Speaking for myself and my colleagues, none of us feel we are "entitled" to anything. Sure you can apply for any entry level job, but where is that taking you? That is the real question? Is a job at Costco really going to benefit my career that much in the long run, other than to pay my bills?

Thanks for your input though, just please don't generalize this to everyone in the generation because not all of us are like this.

Entry level jobs give you work experience and experience on the skills you've learned in school. It's not a job that gets you anywhere, but a job to put a start you in that direction. And think of it as a job to just get by the summer. Like you said, you're only looking for a summer job, you're not going to expect something like a manager position or a $60,000/year position. That wouldn't be a summer job.

Originally Posted by cruz-in

I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :



and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,




i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

The hygiene part I can understand but the socially awkward I think can be an exception. Some people just don't get all outgoing and comfortable the first time they meet. And going to an interview is not easy for some people especially when they're being blasted with questions (some are more like interrogation), so that part needs to be understood.

If the person being interviewed isn't a jackass and has the skills and knowledge to complete his tasks, I think that qualifies for it. Unless you're hiring for a customer service or anything that deals with customer, then socially awkward is a big no no.

Getting off topic, sorry.

[6793026]

as per cruz-in... i have pros and cons on what you said.

Sometimes as a manager, you're epic good at what you do, but you CAN'T expect everything you hire to be like you. There will always be those 8-5 workers that just AREN"T awesome in an interview, nerds, losers, emo etc.... but you still have to hire them.


separate story. I see a lot of teens, when you proactively want to help them, they actually say "ok, just call me"
i'm like dude, I'm reaching out and going out of my way cause you wanted help, and you're just brushing me off as if I owe it to you.

back 20 yrs ago, i would have been proactive and even wrote a thank you card and called as a thank you. Now... teens are like.... oh sure, if u want to help me, text me... wtf...

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by cruz-in

I don't even looks at resumes that are half empty or has a "summery" or "objective" so generic that i can google it , they just get used as :



and even then, if your socially awkward in the interview,




i've in been in the process of hiring a few where their resumes and cover letters were great but come to interview wearing board shorts or have breath smelling like rhino shit.

simply put, i don't fucking care if you smart as hell, if you cant continue a damn conversion, dress like you don't give a fuck, have breath that smells like rhino butt, i aint hiring your ass.

We are hiring now and some of the people we interview are pretty funny.

1st guy was ask what happens if he have got a call from a customer who was angry and was swearing. His answer " I will just transfer the call to another agent or hang up." sorry buddy but that's the worse answer you got give.

2nd guy we ask "What would you do if you come home and your mother told you Internet isn't working?"
His answer..... wait 10secs with a blank look on his face "I don't live with my parents I live alone...."
We ask "Pretend you live with your mother."
2nd guy... " I am not sure what you mean by that I live alone....."

Both of them didn't get the job. I guess is too much to ask for common sense these days........ and these questions are so simple anyone with half a brain could come up with a correct answer.

[nsx042003]

well to make op happy, people with experience like myself, have a hard time landing a job in BC. If i didn't like here so much, i would've moved already, given the shitty job market right now. I'm out since September. Still looking.

Just keep searching, there's always something if you are willing to do.

[mr_chin]

Originally Posted by nsx042003

well to make op happy, people with experience like myself, have a hard time landing a job in BC. If i didn't like here so much, i would've moved already, given the shitty job market right now. I'm out since September. Still looking.

Just keep searching, there's always something if you are willing to do.

What's so good about Vancouver? I can name so many bad's more than good's about Vancouver. If it wasn't for family, I'd move somewhere else, and it definitely won't be a city.

[Neoxphuse]

I graduated from BCIT (this was over a decade ago) and couldn't land a job in the industry I went to school for. This really deflated me, but I went and worked for a grocery store stocking guy for about 8 months, and then quit that and went with being a gas station clerk for over a year. Just from doing that and communicating with the daily customers, one guy gave me pretty good delivery job but it was very tiresome. After a couple years there, I ended up landing a job within the industry. 7 years after that I'm with a municipality.

Sometimes it takes awhile to get where you want to go. But don't fear, the opportunity will come you just have to keep going at it.

[Presto]

When you have little or no work experience, you take those min-wage jobs. There's always something to learn, even when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. I knew what I wanted to do after high school, but I had to embark on a journey of gaining experience and networking to accomplish my career goal.

Have a pro write up a resume for you. That first impression means getting spam binned, or an interview.

[Neoxphuse]

Originally Posted by Presto

When you have little or no work experience, you take those min-wage jobs. There's always something to learn, even when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. I knew what I wanted to do after high school, but I had to embark on a journey of gaining experience and networking to accomplish my career goal.

Have a pro write up a resume for you. That first impression means getting spam binned, or an interview.

I actually found working as a cashier clerk at a gas station was invaluable. Definitely helped me with my communication skills. I got better talking to people openly, and being able to understand and reading some situations. It may seem like nothing when landing a min-wage job, but it definitely give more character.

[kalekain]

When you have no experience, taking a min-wage job is like getting paid to learn.

[Mining]

Originally Posted by Neoxphuse

I graduated from BCIT (this was over a decade ago) and couldn't land a job in the industry I went to school for. This really deflated me, but I went and worked for a grocery store stocking guy for about 8 months, and then quit that and went with being a gas station clerk for over a year. Just from doing that and communicating with the daily customers, one guy gave me pretty good delivery job but it was very tiresome. After a couple years there, I ended up landing a job within the industry. 7 years after that I'm with a municipality.

Sometimes it takes awhile to get where you want to go. But don't fear, the opportunity will come you just have to keep going at it.

That is great and all and we can all learn something from this. However, 7 fucking years to get into the industry you went to school for? Jesus Christ... grocery store stocking > gas station clerk > delivery.

brutal.

[6793026]

^ Wouldn't wish this upon anyone but you might end up in the same way....

[Gucci Mane]

Originally Posted by Mining

That is great and all and we can all learn something from this. However, 7 fucking years to get into the industry you went to school for? Jesus Christ... grocery store stocking > gas station clerk > delivery.

brutal.

not sure of how old you are or what you do for a living but thats what we adults call the "real world". its just the way it goes sometimes. not everyone will come out of college with a job in their perspective fields. sometimes it may take a year or two or seven..

[Inaii]

All depends on the industry you're trying to break into. Some industries are oversaturated with people (ie. Graphic Design, my chosen industry). I graduated in 2006 and still have yet to land a full time job (I work as freelance) because of how many people there are looking for GD jobs in Vancouver. It's also an extremely competetive and subjective market.

[Mining]

Originally Posted by Pidish

not sure of how old you are or what you do for a living but thats what we adults call the "real world". its just the way it goes sometimes. not everyone will come out of college with a job in their perspective fields. sometimes it may take a year or two or seven..

Life can't be all sunshine and rainbows I suppose. But 7 years is brutal man, no matter how you look at it (especially given his journey).

#LifeStruggles