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Old 05-23-2015, 02:57 PM   #26
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not true. I have seen good and bad wood frame lowrises but the window issue is an isolated incident. Happens to the best happens to the worst, you might just be unlucky.

But whether to cover that window, on the other hand, speaks volume to the amount of fucks the developer has to give.
Any wood frame will have noise issues regardless of finish. Even pouring a self leveling compound and adding that additional Barrier does not prevent noise pollution
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ONNI is all about producing the the minimum livable spaces, making them appear lavish and high-end, squeezing as many of those spaces as possible on their plot, and overcharging to make them more desirable.

ONNI is creating havoc in Vancouver.
To be fair, they're only working within the allowed means that various cities have given them. If cities truly didn't want them to build a dozen houses on a single acre, then they would amend the laws to prevent it. Or all the citizens of a particular neighbourhood where a new development is occurring can band together when it's proposed and see if their city hall can do something about it.

Look at Langley's Brookswood/Fernridge development battle. Developers had plans to triple the population in that area, yet the people already living there got together and managed to defeat the proposal when it was brought to the Council.

It can happen; you just have to be willing to fight for the change.
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Also look at the Owners of the Onni corp I worked for them for some time and I know first hand that one of the higher ups had his house in the Properties completely reno'd for free using the tradesmen and materials from the Buildings on lower Lonsdale. He would bring up materials and workers from the building, have them install it and have free labor as they were being paid from the other job site. A simple search of their last name should provide insight as to who is actually profiting from these ventures.

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Also look at the Owners of the Onni corp I worked for them for some time and I know first hand that one of the higher ups had his house in the Properties completely reno'd for free using the tradesmen and materials from the Buildings on lower Lonsdale. He would bring up materials and workers from the building, have them install it and have free labor as they were being paid from the other job site. A simple search of their last name should provide insight as to who is actually profiting from these ventures.

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Unfortunately this is fairly common in the industry, it happens a lot I've seen it first hand working for multiple subs from a handful of different general contractors. Typically they wouldn't do it from there own developments because that's coming out of there bottom line. When there doing a sizeable project for someone else they might pad subcontracts with kickbacks or pad CO's to cover the costs. It's shady as hell but it happens a lot more then you'd expect.
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ya that's not exactly out of this world....as the owner of a company it's pretty common place and expected
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no offense but if she bought in a woof frame low-rise, thats the reality of all these buildings.
high rise concrete actually.
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To be fair, while their customer service is shit. My concrete building has been noise free from what people have described form the floor above and below.
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Next time if you ever viewing an Onni building, check out the hall ways. They can't even get that straight. The walls and base boards are not straight. Scary when they can't even do that right lol.
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Omni, bosa, polygon, all same sht
Every developers have horror stories.
My co worker bought a polygon condo Richmond.
When finished, they ended up installing wrong colour scheme for one washroom.
He fought and fought but at the end.. too bad so sad. I think they offered Keg steak giftcard.
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^ But if your friend did an inspection when they finished and found out its the wrong colour scheme, wouldn't it constitute a breach of contract and they have no obligation to go through with the purchase? Unless he is desperate for a place to live. If colour was a big deal to me, I wouldn't have taken delivery of the unit
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^ But if your friend did an inspection when they finished and found out its the wrong colour scheme, wouldn't it constitute a breach of contract and they have no obligation to go through with the purchase? Unless he is desperate for a place to live. If colour was a big deal to me, I wouldn't have taken delivery of the unit
That's correct. Friend but a place in Richmond where half of the things wouldn't work and the developers keep forcing him the sign off which he didn't.

In the end after everything then he sign the paper. Of coz it help coz since he is in construction as well so they agent that walk him through the inspection can't BS their way out.
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It's already been said, some of you guys clearly don't know how the industry work. The "side projects" are pretty damn common.
Everyone is submitting bids to be part of these large developments, how do you think they come try to come out ahead of others competing to be on the same job, and possibly setting them up for multiple projects down the road. These side projects are chump change in the grand scheme of things.
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^ But if your friend did an inspection when they finished and found out its the wrong colour scheme, wouldn't it constitute a breach of contract and they have no obligation to go through with the purchase? Unless he is desperate for a place to live. If colour was a big deal to me, I wouldn't have taken delivery of the unit
Sounds like most people are just getting bent over and fucked in the ass then complaining about it a few months after the fact. Or puting no effort into their complaint process then using other avenues to vent..

If the color scheme was wrong in the place they should have walked away from the orientation/walk through that second and said they will come back once it has been fixed. The only time developers are going to sweat is when you're holding off completing.

The complete wrong thing to do was to accept the color change at all, period. The orientation should not have continued for a minute more with such a drastic mistake because the process of fixing it will most likely cause additional defincicies which would not have been noted if you completed or moved in prior to the fix.

When buying a place use your brain and your leverage.

I've done about 60-70 home owner orientations with buyers ranging from first time home owners to 7th time retiree's. 90% are clueless as to what they should look for/point out in their orientations.

If I was to buy a new place I'd be a developers worst nightmare. I'd literally be picking out things like caulking beads where the guy pulled his finger away early and there's a smudge. And it's all within your right to do so as the buyer.
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depends on the building and subtrades.
Unless it's a real high-end building, it's all low-bid gets the job for projects like this. You don't get good subtrades in for that.
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define "good"

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the people doing the 30 million dollar trump tower penthouses right now are some of the same who do 4 storey low rise in Surrey. So what is "good" ?
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the people doing the 30 million dollar trump tower penthouses right now are some of the same who do 4 storey low rise in Surrey. So what is "good" ?
It depends on the trade. It's the finishing that it's more of an issue, because things like electrical/plumbing has to all pass code. Things like finishing carpentry and flooring (I spent 5 years putting floors in) aren't regulated.

You aren't getting a good quality finishing crew into multi-fam developments for low dollar. Anyone worth their keep is probably staying busy enough doing renovations/single family houses.
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well yea, finishing and drywall are the major quality factors the rest i wouldnt really say theres too much difference from the top to bottom. Maybe concrete finishing and stuff like that
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well yea, finishing and drywall are the major quality factors the rest i wouldnt really say theres too much difference from the top to bottom. Maybe concrete finishing and stuff like that
You've obviously not seen a bad drywall job, or at least haven't noticed it. There's a big difference in good/bad with that.
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Hmm I think Hondaracer was saying drywall finishing IS one of the major quality factors along with finishing
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About 1 year ago I did some work at my parents house with my bro in law who builds houses for a living. Nothing crazy, new laminate flooring, new base boards, new light switches. So of course things like caulking were involved and I saw the workmanship of my bro in law and thought ok this is a standard.

Since then I've been looking at places to buy for months now. New, old, Condos, Townhomes you name it and man the finishes look like shit in most of these places. Sloppy caulking, baseboards all crooked among other things. I'm with Honda, If I bought a place id keep off on signing and nit pick about everything.
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Too bad our company didn't have any townhouse sites on the go or else I might offer to give prospective home buyers a little crash course on things to look for during a walk through
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