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bananana · 07-09-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar

One of the other members here said it best.

"It's like not fucking your girlfriend in hopes her next boyfriend will find her more desirable"

My Duc is 1 of 100 worldwide and one of eight in Canada. Two of the PO's never rode the thing. I overpaid a bit for it so I can fuck her brains out every chance I get. These are vehicles, not sculptures. If they didn't operate as machinery they wouldn't have a shred of value.

Unless it's worth millions, drive it like you stole it!

white rocket · 07-09-2015, 02:43 PM

Daily Commuting = not a chance. But I'd certainly take it out and drive it the way it's meant to be driven. Country road cruising, touge action, HPDE days, etc.

I feel safer on a race track than in rush hour traffic in terms of the chance of a collision. A collision is the only real concern as it takes away from the worth of the car down the road. Having the mileage go up a few thousand per year isn't going to change much of the value.

Great68 · 07-09-2015, 02:46 PM

I'd rather be driving a better car thinking "I wish I put less miles on this thing" than driving a shitty car thinking "I wish I was driving a better car"

PK-EK · 07-09-2015, 03:01 PM

I take the cluster out of my NSX and drive it around with a high KM JDM cluster i got from Yahoo Auctions.

best of both worlds

freakshow · 07-09-2015, 03:26 PM

I think the two extremes are bad: having a nice/rare/classic car and either a) driving it 2 times a year, or b) driving it M-F in gridlock on the way to work.

Optimal to me is to have a daily driver for your commute, but still drive your weekend car whenever you want (little or lots)

hud 91gt · 07-09-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flagella

Makes no sense. A desirable rare car in mint condition will appreciate in value or hold value really well if you keep it clean and mileage relatively low, while no man is going to find a girl more attractive because she's been banged less times and her value will depreciate as she ages.

That said, weekend warrior is obviously the way to go because that's the only time when you can take the car away from the city for a spirited drive. DDing the car in traffic is such a terrible idea.

You think a girl who has been banged by every dude on the block, has a canyon of a vagina; isn't going to be less desirable? Give me a break. I think this goes back to virgins in high school. They may not be fun, but are still a prize. Haha

When your single and in your forties, a low mileage women, with a clean CarFax is hard to find. They appreciate in their own way. Trust me. I've noticed and I'm not even 30 yet.

Kalize · 07-09-2015, 07:56 PM

drive it once in awhile; no point using any car that is desirable as a daily driver.
no one wants a M3/NSX/ITR etc with 200K kms on it.

twitchyzero · 07-09-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalize

no one wants a M3/NSX/ITR etc with 200K kms on it.

craigslist good buys thread tells me otherwise
i personally wouldn't unless it's a stellar deal as a track rat...if you totalled it your wallet will recover in weeks

multicartual · 07-09-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar

One of the other members here said it best.

"It's like not fucking your girlfriend in hopes her next boyfriend will find her more desirable"

RS top quote of 2015

westopher · 07-09-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalize

drive it once in awhile; no point using any car that is desirable as a daily driver.
no one wants a M3/NSX/ITR etc with 200K kms on it.

The ones that have 200k are selling for 80% of the ones with 60-100k. That 100k is my idea of 5-15k well spent.

Tone Loc · 07-10-2015, 12:57 AM

Like someone else said above, the two extremes are bad...

I personally hate driving my AE86 in commuter traffic, I drive like a grandpa and I'm always super sketched out because it amazes me how careless/stupid other drivers are. Currently I am on the hunt for a "beater" Honda or Acura that I can "daily drive" and only take the AE86 out when there are less drivers on the road.

But I can't stand people who have super nice/rare cars and never ever drive them for fear of losing the resale value. What good is a car when all you can do is stare at it in the garage? Also I think it is a pretty big disrespect to the men and women who designed/built/engineered the car because their hard work and effort has essentially turned into a 3,000lb paperweight... go watch the interviews with the engineers who built the Integra Type R and S2000 if you don't know what I mean. Those guys want nothing more than to build a drivers car, not a garage showpiece.

meme405 · 07-10-2015, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hud 91gt

I've noticed and I'm not even 30 yet.

Your not 30!?

Bruhhh, I thought you was old dawgg. Don't know why, maybe cause of the Datsun.

underscore · 07-10-2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher

The ones that have 200k are selling for 80% of the ones with 60-100k. That 100k is my idea of 5-15k well spent.

$15k/100k km = $0.15/km. That's a pretty cheap way to enjoy your life.

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Originally Posted by hud 91gt

You think a girl who has been banged by every dude on the block, has a canyon of a vagina; isn't going to be less desirable? Give me a break. I think this goes back to virgins in high school. They may not be fun, but are still a prize. Haha

When your single and in your forties, a low mileage women, with a clean CarFax is hard to find. They appreciate in their own way. Trust me. I've noticed and I'm not even 30 yet.

Of course she might be less desirable, but not significantly, and the person who owns the car isn't the single 40 year old, they're the one that could be banging them in high school. Dating a girl but not sleeping with her to keep her more desirable for her later hubby is the same as owning a car but not driving it: If you already know you don't want to keep it and enjoy it, why have it? The best way to keep the resale value up is to part ways as soon as possible.

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Originally Posted by FunkyColdMedina

I personally hate driving my AE86 in commuter traffic, I drive like a grandpa and I'm always super sketched out because it amazes me how careless/stupid other drivers are.

Now to me that's a completely different scenario. Being selective to avoid possibly damage is logical to me, not driving it to keep the value up is not.

smoothie. · 07-10-2015, 11:55 AM

honestly this thread its all personal opinion.

some like to drive, some like to park, some like to track.

but don't tell me you don't drool at the minty collector cars of our generation, which wouldn't exist without people that park them.

westopher · 07-10-2015, 12:01 PM

This thread is more about opinion on people thinking cars like s2k, type Rs, m3s, etc. are collectibles, which is laughable.
We aren't talking about putting away a 1962 ferrari 250 and bringing it out for concours and a couple shows a year. That I can understand, but it certainly wouldn't be my idea of good use. Its probably because I'm not, nor will I ever be so rich that I can just have wasted space and money tied up in cars that I don't get to drive, which first and foremost, is what cars (especially sports cars) are for.

Mike.L · 07-10-2015, 01:19 PM

To make it simple, do you want to be the grandfather that tells his grand kids about all the cars he owned, or do you want to be the grandfather who can take the kids to the garage and phyiscally show them all his cars and take them out for a spin.

westopher · 07-10-2015, 01:23 PM

I'd like to be the grandfather that takes my kids for a drive.

Mike.L · 07-10-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher

I'd like to be the grandfather that takes my kids for a drive.

ok fixed

The_AK · 07-10-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher

This thread is more about opinion on people thinking cars like s2k, type Rs, m3s, etc. are collectibles, which is laughable.
We aren't talking about putting away a 1962 ferrari 250 and bringing it out for concours and a couple shows a year. That I can understand, but it certainly wouldn't be my idea of good use. Its probably because I'm not, nor will I ever be so rich that I can just have wasted space and money tied up in cars that I don't get to drive, which first and foremost, is what cars (especially sports cars) are for.

I dont even want to know what you think of my 330.... haha but yea, agreed. It IS personal opinion, each person's definition of enjoying. Does make me wonder if e46 m3 will reach that collector status like e30 has.

white rocket · 07-10-2015, 03:01 PM

Doubtful that any M3 will be considered to be on the same level as the E30. The differences between the M3 and normal E30 3 series is quite staggering. I think the roof, hood and doors are the only swappable parts. Newer gens did not take it to that level.

westopher · 07-10-2015, 07:35 PM

The production volume alone is reason enough the other m3s will never carry that same desirability of the e30. It doesn't make them any less awesome though. The AK just because I don't think these cars aren't collector cars doesn't make them cars I'm disinterested in or criticizing. I spent most of my track day lusting after loooonnggs ITR. The fact I can see 10 of them at a trackday is proof enough that they aren't rare enough to stuff in a garage in hopes of making big money one day though. Great cars don't have to be rare, and rare cars aren't always great.

mb_ · 07-10-2015, 08:55 PM

Would drive it everyday. Daily'd (except winter) my MR2 when I had it. Second year was spent doing Surrey to North Van commute everyday.

multicartual · 07-10-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike.L

To make it simple, do you want to be the grandfather that tells his grand kids about all the cars he owned, or do you want to be the grandfather who can take the kids to the garage and phyiscally show them all his cars and take them out for a spin.

Grandkids in 40 years will be more impressed if you were a drag queen than if you drag raced

underscore · 07-11-2015, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike.L

To make it simple, do you want to be the grandfather that tells his grand kids about all the cars he owned, or do you want to be the grandfather who can take the kids to the garage and phyiscally show them all his cars and take them out for a spin.

I can just imagine this conversation:

Kid: Woah, you had a [S2000, M3, NSX, whatever]?!
Gramps: I sure did!
Kid: What was it like to drive?
Gramps: Not a clue.

Reminds me of the thread about the guy who was selling off his car collection, clearly the guy had piles of money but most of the cars had more owners than miles. There were two Veyrons in there that had most likely been driven more by the people at the dealer than the owners, pretty sad to have owned not one but two of the most powerful car made and never driven them.

entrax · 07-11-2015, 01:01 PM

When I bought my MR2 turbo, it only had 117k km's @ 23 years old and all the paperwork dating back to 10km (10, not 10k). Technically the undercoating/anti-chip was still under warranty for another 3k haha. original manuals, old lady purchased and owned for 18 years, etc. Despite it being a much cheaper car than some of the cars mentioned on this thread, it had all the necessary items to fit the collector criteria.

I modified it with newer mr2 items, lsd trans, suspension, wheels, and drove it 45k in the last 2 years. I autocrossed the car, drove it to LA twice, SF, canyon carved Malibu Canyons (mb_ was with me with his FRS with like 6k km on it lol), winter daily, and even til now it still gets daily driven. I've even taken it to Cypress and Whistler two winters ago for snowboarding.

Do I regret it? Nope. The memories made are much more worth the "lost" value in a car. For me, the value of the car is what it has done for me. As far as I'm concerned, the car's already paid me back for what I paid for it.

Only regret is that someone backed into me and now the bumper is not the same color (thanks Boyd).

One other point is that maintenance is key. There's reasons why some cars that are only 50k look like shit compared to a car that has 150k and that I wouldn't buy the 50k km car just for the number.