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Old 08-01-2015, 11:54 AM   #76
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How do you figure that? If I tell you it's ok to shoot someone and they die; you're telling me that you're in the clear on the murder charge? Wether you know an act is illegal or not, committing the act still makes you accountable.
In the clear no, but when you've hired a supposed professional I can fault them a little less if that "professional" deceived them.

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Yup, no tags to kill any Lion, never mind one that resides in a national park... and he only kept the head and pelt... doesn't matter where you come from that's illegal poaching. Plus supposedly you are not allowed to shoot lions with a Bow in Zimbabwe.
If that's true, how did he take the head and pelt? You need at least some kind of legit paperwork to be able to bring something like that across borders.
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Cecil's brother just got killed illegally in the same park.
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I think everyone in the media needs to chill out. There is a very high possibility and likely the what happened, that he had a permit like he said to shoot a lion. The guides nor him at the time didn't know it was Cecil. However after it was killed, and the guides tried to destroy the tracker... that's where things get fishy. I agree they should be prosecuted (the guides), but not the doctor. He paid for his permit and guides (these countries don't allow you to hunt without a local guide). What I don't agree with was the leaving of the carcass out in the park. Normally the meat goes to local communities to eat... and what was probably going to happen until they realized they shot a protected cat. Again... blame the guides not the customer.

Believe what you want about the ethics of hunting game like this, but that's not the issue here. The issue is the legality of what the guides did.

There are so many more important things to worry about in Africa than one lion. Yes, it sucks.. he looked like a cool cat. But what about Robert Mugabe? What about Boko Haram? What about all the starving children? Those are things we as a western civilization need to care about on a regular basis. Not the killing of a lion and the shaming of a doctor.
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If that's true, how did he take the head and pelt? You need at least some kind of legit paperwork to be able to bring something like that across borders.
Nobody knows where the head and pelt is AFAIK, they just recovered the corpse of a skinned and decapitated lion.

There was no permit for hunting the lion, they did not have tags.

You have to be reasonable, this is an "expert hunter" and a dentist, he isn't an idiot. Considering in the past he has been in doo doo for a hunting faux-pas he should know to do his due diligence to cover his ass.
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Nobody knows where the head and pelt is AFAIK, they just recovered the corpse of a skinned and decapitated lion.

There was no permit for hunting the lion, they did not have tags.

You have to be reasonable, this is an "expert hunter" and a dentist, he isn't an idiot. Considering in the past he has been in doo doo for a hunting faux-pas he should know to do his due diligence to cover his ass.
Expert hunter LOL!!!!. He is like a guy that brags he beat a guy up but does not tell you that it took him and 9 other guys to do it.
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Pretty sure all the legit paperwork in this whole scenario was this.
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Seriously, who names a lion "Cecil"? WTF kind of name is that for King Of The Jungle? Poor thing probably died of embarrassment.

Just picture all the other animals pointing and laughing... "Ceeeee-cil, Ceeeee-cil! Haha haha loser!"

Lion be all like, rawr imma eat u now, antelope! And the antelopes all be like, ha ha, whatev CEEEEE-CIL!

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I hate how whenever someone cares about something other than starving children you get all the "umm who cares did you know kids are dying? And what about cancer and full blown AIDS you prick?."

My apologies let's hammer out world hunger before tackling any other issues.
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The thing is, they don't actually care, it's a 15 minute period of pretending like they give a shit
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The problem is you are lumping everyone together. Some people do give a real shit, and they give a shit about other important things as well, and other unimportant things. Not everyone just posts a FB status bitching about an event and does nothing about anything in their daily life. Maybe instead of being mad people are giving a small fuck about something minuscule, you should be happy they are showing signs of giving a fuck about anything at all, as contrived as it may be, there is a chance of people learning something and it becoming something beneficial.
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Exactly, even if most people see this as another Kony 2012 there will always be a few that take it to heart and maybe try to make a difference.
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LOL Kony 2012...the only difference that made was it separated a lot of idiots from their money and caused the CEO of the company to go on a naked masturbating rampage in the streets.
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Haha that was little different as it was actually a scam to acquire money for a horribly irresponsible fraud of a charity.
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Nobody knows where the head and pelt is AFAIK, they just recovered the corpse of a skinned and decapitated lion.
I stand corrected then, I would assume US Customs would know if they were brought into the US but I doubt they would release that info.

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You have to be reasonable, this is an "expert hunter" and a dentist, he isn't an idiot. Considering in the past he has been in doo doo for a hunting faux-pas he should know to do his due diligence to cover his ass.
Due diligence like hiring what were supposed to be professional guides that may or may not have appeared to have the right paperwork? It's all well and good to say the guy has to cover his ass, but if you think you hired the right people who show you what look to be the right documents then it's more understandable than if the you know from the get go they don't have the proper stuff.

Again, I'm not saying one way or the other what he did or didn't know. But I find it laughable that you're telling me to be reasonable when you won't consider the possibility that he thought everything was being done correctly, which is just as probable as him intentionally doing things illegally.
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