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bcrdukes 01-18-2023 07:49 PM

There you have it!

dark0821 01-18-2023 08:51 PM

^Ummm I hate to break the news... but

Volvo is Chinese... lol at least 80% Chinese, Geely (from Zhejiang, China) owns 80% share if I am not mistaken...

So yea... lolol

yray 01-19-2023 08:55 AM

too bad this video is not subtitled in English

comparison between chinese made E class vs German made E class


Traum 01-19-2023 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yray (Post 9088094)
too bad this video is not subtitled in English

comparison between chinese made E class vs German made E class

Would you care to give us a TL;DR summary of it?

I'd of course expect the German-built E class to be superior in many different ways. But is there any specific / interesting aspects that you can mention?

Badhobz 01-19-2023 10:54 AM

https://financialpost.com/commoditie...-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

JDMDreams 01-19-2023 11:12 AM

Make gas cheap again^

GS8 01-19-2023 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9088107)
https://financialpost.com/commoditie...-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

They just want to keep WyoTech afloat :troll:

mikemhg 01-19-2023 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9088107)
https://financialpost.com/commoditie...-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

This is why US politics are so fucking nuts.

Republicans are just fully embracing the knuckle dragger ideology, they've become memelord shitposters as elected officials.

But alas, tit for tat I suppose.

I'm trying to figure out which bill is more stupid this one, or banning ICE vehicles by 2035.

Both are utterly ridiculous ideas.

Dbone 01-19-2023 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9088107)
https://financialpost.com/commoditie...-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

Some wacko tabled a proposal. No way will that be made a law.

Badhobz 01-19-2023 12:55 PM


This doesnt look so bad, but the name is idiotic. Afeela ? what kinda chinglish bullshit is that? looks like a Japanese rip off of Lucid.

68style 01-19-2023 01:22 PM

I feel ya... and you feelz goooooood

oh oh... or Boston's More Than A Feeling for the commercial...

"It's more that A Feel Ah... I begin dreaming"

tofu1413 01-19-2023 01:33 PM

Afeela... sounds like a car straight out of Ridge Racer type 4.


disappointed that these "cars of the future" doesnt look like those cars from Ridge Racer.

CorneringArtist 01-19-2023 02:11 PM

Afeeela this car will be uglier as a production model.

GLOW 01-19-2023 02:44 PM

i hear tesla's releasing a model 2 in 2024, anyone know what it'll look like?
more of a leaf vibe or an A-class hatch vibe?

TypeRNammer 01-19-2023 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 9088143)
i hear tesla's releasing a model 2 in 2024, anyone know what it'll look like?
more of a leaf vibe or an A-class hatch vibe?

I believe development has just started on the smaller Model 3

In terms of looks no idea what it's going to look like, even though there are tons of renderings on the internet.

Ideally I would want this as my commuter car but just have to be patient on it.

EDIT:

There's also a refreshed Model 3 coming out at the end of the year. The Model 3 mules are roaming around with covered up bumpers.

68style 01-19-2023 03:13 PM

There are people who have literally turned into skeletons waiting for the Cyber Truck... where dat at

JDMDreams 01-19-2023 04:54 PM

^^ I still can't believe g fucking m and ford beat them to it. Let alone revian.

whitev70r 01-19-2023 05:35 PM

What ever happened to Apple's top secret project, I thought they were going to make an EV?

Badhobz 01-19-2023 06:21 PM

Im hoping they would. They got cash to spare and their user interfaces are usually pretty intuitive.

Plus this might be the EV that I go lineup for just like iPhone 4 back in the day

Tim cooks ultimate fuck you to Elon if he makes an EV.

TypeRNammer 01-19-2023 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9088158)
What ever happened to Apple's top secret project, I thought they were going to make an EV?

It's the same story with Dyson

They developed an electric SUV only for it to be scrapped

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...nearly-made-it

whitev70r 01-19-2023 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 9088162)
It's the same story with Dyson

They developed an electric SUV only for it to be scrapped

Dyson ... as in the expensive vaccum cleaner, Dyson?

hud 91gt 01-19-2023 07:45 PM

It must have sucked?

TypeRNammer 01-19-2023 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9088164)
Dyson ... as in the expensive vaccum cleaner, Dyson?

That's correct

Hehe 01-19-2023 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9088146)
There are people who have literally turned into skeletons waiting for the Cyber Truck... where dat at

You are thinking with traditional carmakers mentality. That's why you find the delay on Cybertruck so hard to understand.

The way Tesla does production is to reduce and to simplify. Legacy carmakers just assemble a bunch of parts at their disposal from their suppliers, adds whatever new stuff needed to be there and done. What if something can't fit together? They come up with other new parts just so that they can put things together. This creates so many SKU and so many configurations that makes ramping up production extremely hard. Between all the trims, configurations, motor/battery differences... etc, there can be hundreds to millions of possible combinations on any given model.

Tesla went the other extreme. They build cars with as many shared designs as possible. They also design so that whatever new stuff they come up with, it'd be backward compatible to other cars (i.e. Octavalve design started with Model Y, it can be fitted onto Model 3 without a hitch. Or Model S Plaid using Model 3 inverters). Thus, they need to make sure whatever solution they come up with is extremely reliable. Because one flaw will then affect the entire fleet. They do mitigate it somewhat by introducing something new on one model, and only once they are sure that it's working without a hitch in real-world settings before they introduce it to other models.

This allowed Tesla to scale at a speed legacy carmakers can only dream of. 50%+ production growth YoY from the year Tesla started making cars until today.

And this is not something I say as a Tesla fanboy...


This is from Cory Steuben of Munro & Associates in this interview. And Munro is THE firm that carmakers go to in order to improve how they make cars as they are the best in business.

Legacy carmakers are basically hoping for Cybertruck to keep taking whatever it needs. What they don't understand is once that production line is done, it will be one unlike any other truck production line that ever existed. And it will build CT at a speed legacy carmakers can never achieve at a cost that's impossible to compute in legacy carmakers' own model.

Alpine 01-19-2023 10:38 PM

Not to mention that they went full retard with their design (for Better or for worse). If they just built a regular pickup (ie. rivian/lightning) I bet the pickup would be in production by now. But they just had to do something incredibly different.


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