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Old 03-09-2017, 01:17 AM   #76
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im all for it.

all of it.

it resembles the stock hatchback nicely with a big wing and then styling here and there.

its about time we got it.
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90% of them would look like that upon initial release... probably on TE37SL.
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And then it'll be a liberty walk car
actually.... I think liberty walk will actually really work for this car, since it already has all these vents/breaks/hooks and stuff... lol I mean it is busy enough as it is... a LB or Rocket Bunny will totally work on it... like the new NSX...

but yea... what I absolutely hate is these kits on a... 458, where it was meant to be simple and elegant...
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i am sorry that I missed it the first time around... but from the official website...

Mounted to the suspension are 20-inch aluminum alloy wheels shod with 245/30R 20 Continental ContiSportContact 6 performance tires.

damn... a factory civic with 20" rims.... lol how times have changed....

https://www.honda.ca/future-vehicles
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What do you guys think would be the Type R's biggest competition?
306 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 295 lb.-ft. of torque

At $45k CAD, it seems pretty comparable vs an STI

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What do you guys think would be the Type R's biggest competition?
306 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 295 lb.-ft. of torque

At $45k CAD, it seems pretty comparable vs an STI
^^ Except the STI is AWD, while the CTR is FF. When the car needs a sudden burst of power, which setup do you think is gonna be more explosive?
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STI motor probably has more mid range punch with 2.5L...


but then again CTR has newer engine tech....
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i'm not sure if people care too much that the CTR is FF and not AWD. Look at the market just below that. GTI, WRX, Focus ST..you see lots of GTIs on the road compared to WRXes (i'm sure interior quality has a lot to do with that too).

So although the Focus RS, STI and Golf R are awd, i'm not sure if the "average" enthusiast will care as long as the driving dynamics are there.
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This ek makes sense to me. It isn't beautiful but it had clean purposeful lines. The new one is screaming to the world, seeking its attention. The older stuff just casually hints that it had something special.
still the best looking civic ever made imo
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I don't get why people are having such a hard time accepting FF. Back when the ITR and CTR first came out they destroyed competition in their respective classes and they were fun. And what were they? FF

I have full faith in Honda to make sure this car will do the same. You don't wait 15 years to bring back a car to not have full confidence that what you made won't be good. I have no issue with FF. I'm sure the car will be as fun as the original. And I'm sure it will give the competition a run for their money as well.

Long story short, I had no issues with the original Type R's being FF and have no issue with the new Type R being FF. I think people are just making it a big deal for no reason.
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I don't get why people are having such a hard time accepting FF. Back when the ITR and CTR first came out they destroyed competition in their respective classes and they were fun. And what were they? FF

I have full faith in Honda to make sure this car will do the same. You don't wait 15 years to bring back a car to not have full confidence that what you made won't be good. I have no issue with FF. I'm sure the car will be as fun as the original. And I'm sure it will give the competition a run for their money as well.

Long story short, I had no issues with the original Type R's being FF and have no issue with the new Type R being FF. I think people are just making it a big deal for no reason.
I don't want to be bench racers, but people make a big deal out of it because the released specs are subpar, being more of a city car than a highway cruise missile.

The first thing I looked at is 0-100... which is 5.3 seconds, that is slower than the Golf R, Focus RS, STi... and my EVO apparently. It's not due to Honda put a bad engine in there, the engine output is fine, on par or higher than most of the competition, but it fails to get off the line because of the FWD layout... that's why people make a big deal out of it...

Other than that, yes, I am sure Honda has done their homework, I would expect the R to at least hang with the competition....

And I'm sure it will give the competition a run for their money as well. sorry to break it to you... but that is just not gonna happen... beating the competition in some tests for sure, but no where destroying them....
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I don't want to be bench racers, but people make a big deal out of it because the released specs are subpar, being more of a city car than a highway cruise missile.

The first thing I looked at is 0-100... which is 5.3 seconds, that is slower than the Golf R, Focus RS, STi... and my EVO apparently. It's not due to Honda put a bad engine in there, the engine output is fine, on par or higher than most of the competition, but it fails to get off the line because of the FWD layout... that's why people make a big deal out of it...

Other than that, yes, I am sure Honda has done their homework, I would expect the R to at least hang with the competition....

And I'm sure it will give the competition a run for their money as well. sorry to break it to you... but that is just not gonna happen... beating the competition in some tests for sure, but no where destroying them....

Honda has never been about 0-60 times. The original Type R's were slow as s*it off the line. On a track though, that's a different story. These cars are not and never will be made for drag racing. If 0-60 matters to a person they should not be looking at Honda's.
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I don't get why people are having such a hard time accepting FF. Back when the ITR and CTR first came out they destroyed competition in their respective classes and they were fun. And what were they? FF

I have full faith in Honda to make sure this car will do the same. You don't wait 15 years to bring back a car to not have full confidence that what you made won't be good. I have no issue with FF. I'm sure the car will be as fun as the original. And I'm sure it will give the competition a run for their money as well.

Long story short, I had no issues with the original Type R's being FF and have no issue with the new Type R being FF. I think people are just making it a big deal for no reason.


when the 96' spec ITR came out... it destroyed the R32 GT-R in the corners. Did that on track day two years ago with my 96' spec against a single turbo R32 GTR too at the ridge. Low speed to mid speed, watching the GTR plow out of the corner.....
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It will be good to see the Civic Type R vs WRX STI vs Focus RS, vs Golf R at the track with all the same tires. Lets hope they can get the weight down on the CTR. Personally I could care less about the techies, and comfort features. If I wanted that I would have just gotten the Sport Touring. Keep it light, agile with a hint of oversteer.
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Honda has never been about 0-60 times. The original Type R's were slow as s*it off the line. On a track though, that's a different story. These cars are not and never will be made for drag racing. If 0-60 matters to a person they should not be looking at Honda's.
Good points for sure.

For the average buyer though, how much track time do you think a Type-R will see...

Just talking about usability on a daily basis, it means the 3 AWD car I mentioned will be faster 90% of the time during the course of its life. And if I am spending 50 grand, you bet alot of people will be taking it into consideration.

On that note, how many people actually take their cars to the drag strip...
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That's one thing I love of about the Type R Hondas: they are more like the old BMW M Cars that are more of a circuit ready machine first and road car second. Race car with licence plates.

They kick ass. I'm sure out of 100 Type R owners, at least 10 take them to the circuit a few times a year. (Unlike most newer BMW M buyers...)
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I have full faith in Honda to make sure this car will do the same. You don't wait 15 years to bring back a car to not have full confidence that what you made won't be good. I have no issue with FF. I'm sure the car will be as fun as the original. And I'm sure it will give the competition a run for their money as well.
There was no 15 year hiatus for the CTR. On the other side of the world, they showed up as the EP3, the FD2 (or CSX for us)/FN2 in Europe, and lastly the FK2.
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