there were 3 bombs at the scene, and 12 more at the home. they found the remote detonator in the car. but (fortunately) for some reason the bombs didn't go off.

the police and fbi are hinting that there may have been more targeted attack locations, or that the location may not have been the original target.

Seems about right, get revenge on a bigoted troll by shooting him and 31 of his coworkers
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The shooter(s) was a grade-A nut long before this and probably before he even went to Mecca. Then again, maybe his Pakistani woman put him up to it :chairdance:

Anyone willing to murder people like this has been radicalized in some shape or form. If your not white and not Christian then its from Terrorists. If you are white then the media will find something.

it's like the couple who are from extremely wealthy families in NY, they're crackheads, they plotted bomb attacks, had drawn out plans, had bomb making equipment, and weapons, but they were busted before they carried out their attacks... well they were simply diagnosed as insane crackheads with extreme fantasies and sent to a psych ward iirc -_-

In the case of many religions, it's an act of adhering to the tenets of their religious scripture. The individual is simply staying true to the words written. Its the religion itself that is radical, outdated, and should be left to history.

There are white christian terrorists too, just look at any abortion clinic attack

I know, just using it as an example of how the media is saying that they were radicalized. Regardless of your color, religion or whatever. If you kill a bunch of people you have been radicalized in some shape or form. In the case of the abortion clinic, the way many republican/conservatives have been talking about Planned Parenthood have in some part led to this.

Well... what do you know? Now they're saying the Pakistani wife pledged allegiance to ISIS using Facebook alias, although there is no evidence the group directed the shooters to launch the attacks.

The natural next guess is -- the wife seduced the husband to become radicalized as well?

This is so fxxked up.

Media had a free for all inside the shooters homes today. MSNBC and CNN showing living action shots of the reporters treasure hunt.

Landlord originally gives reporters access, Landlords' wife comes later and screams at the media circus to get off her property.



Reporters root through San Bernardino shooters' apartment on live TV - Trending - CBC News

yeah i was pretty :eek: when i saw this in the morning, the FBI said they have no concerns too -_- just didn't make sense, apparently rummaging through the place overnight was enough to satisfy them :lol

the wife was from Saudi Arabia and the guy was Pakistani. but in all honesty, with the way the cops are finding evidence its obvious they were up to something. they had tactical gear, fully auto weapons with thousands of rounds of ammo, the 12 pipe bombs and the bombs attached to RC cars. they also found brand new phones that were smashed to try and cover up something. kind of hard to call this an isolated incident at this point.

The CSI forensics teams would go nuts if they saw that video footage. Talk about irresponsible policing.

The crime scene is now contaminated with so many fingerprints from reporters and other media people. :facepalm:

False the guy was American born in Chicago. His wife was born in Pakistan but was raised in Saudi Arabia.

San Bernardino Shooter Was Born In Chicago: Chicagoist

stupid cnn fudging up some facts. oh well, at least i know now.

Seems pretty ironic that the law enforcement officer is telling CNN they are fucking up the crime scene, and yet CNN continuous to fuck up the crime scene right in front of his face...

People need to stop pinning religion/nationality as the scapegoat. Haven't we all at some point or another felt alone or isolated? The desire to belong to something, to be included is a far bigger motivator than religion.

You would expect someone who becomes radicalized to be well versed in the Quran and it's teachings (assuming you support the idea that Islam is a radical religion), then why is it that kids who want to join ISIS buy books like 'Islam for Dummies' and 'Arabic for Dummies'?

ISIS ?Dummies? Bought Islam 101 Book Before Joining the ?Jihad? - The Bridge Initiative | A Research Project on Islamophobia


There's a bigger problem, and there's a reason why terrorists are both white and brown.

Religion has always preyed on the weak and simple minded - you don't say.

No, I would not expect someone lured in by religion to be well versed. There was a reason literacy, historically, was reserved for religious leaders and powerful/wealthy of society while the masses were left in ignorance. It was an attempt to control the message in order to maintain the power structure. If those ignorant masses were able to read, to be educated about the world, they would be able to interpret religious texts and possibly find their religious leaders to be full of shit and not to be trusted.

Religion and nationalism are tools to influence and they work best on ignorance. People who identify with a religion are a red flag to me as someone who could become a potential threat. As I said in the previous terrorism thread:

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