Originally Posted by $_$ (Post 8717259)

I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about

Originally Posted by i-vtecyo (Post 8717253)

Not normal for anyone to take pictures of all the exits and entrances..

Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8717304)

I would rather the police being cautious about this and then wrong and not doing anything at all and something happening. It's sad but this isn't racist but the world we live in today.

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8717307)

^ what are you even talking about that it requires 0 explanation for taking pics in public? So you're okay with pedophiles that sit at the edge of playgrounds takings pics of kids?

Like I said before the whole story doesn't get released to the public 100% as to not incite panic, but they have good reasons for asking these questions to identify. So much shit happens in this city every day and they never bother but this 1 time they're asking the public? It's because they know more than is being told.

Seriously, for this bulletin to be released it would have had to go through at least 3 levels of approval including the VPD and RCMP media liaisons. You don't think they know what the culture is like and would put something out with racist overtones? Give your heads a shake.

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8717279)

site rule to fail any buzz article linked :)

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717314)

I'm talking about legality, if you are in a public place you do not require anyone's consent to take there pictures.
I get what your saying and I agree. When I was in school this was a very sensitive thing. We made it a point to not photograph in specific areas like playgrounds and such. We did make a few outings to them as a class and informed anyone there what we were doing and no issues, but I get what your saying.
What I am saying is there is nothing in the law that says you are not allowed to and legally you are not required to get permission or any need to explain what you are doing as there are not laws being broken. If you are on private property then its a whole different story.

Originally Posted by kkttsang (Post 8717319)

Pacific centre is private property.

Originally Posted by kkttsang (Post 8717319)

Pacific centre is private property.

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717322)

If they are on the exterior of the building they are not on private property. If inside the building they are.

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717299)

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8717326)

holy shit...this is a stupid fucking post.

if any normal person saw their face plastered all over the news being accused of suspicious activity, they would immediately call the police or the media and inform them of what they were doing.

since these 3 fuckers havent, well...

and here we go with the racism card...lol.

anyways, all over the world we have many cases of police being afraid to report suspicious activity or outright covering up crimes because they are afraid of being accused of being racist lol, and its people like you who are causing that haha

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8717321)

it's private property that's open to the public

its been covered before, you may take photos in malls, and are only required to stop if told to by security, and even then you dont have to delete the photos you've already taken

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717330)

If by stupid you mean factual then you hit the nail right on the head.

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8717333)

Yes, I'm sure their film/photo enthusiasts taking pictures of PCS beautiful and artistic exits/entrances

or their students who were given a project studying mall exits and entrances

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717334)

Photography is an art. The assignment was to capture what you interpret as wealth and IMO someone who wears $1000 shoes and spends many more thousands in a shopping centre can be a great representation of that.

Example below.

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717299)

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8717337)

like i said, if they actually had an art assignment they would just call the police and told them so and this would be cleared up. why havent they?

Originally Posted by kkttsang (Post 8717331)

I'm not arguing if it's ok or not to take photo inside.

I'm only arguing boosted point that "if it's private property it's a different story"
So was just letting him know they were inside the mall that's private property, nowhere in my post did I say taking photos were or were not allow.

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717299)

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.

Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 8717355)

Sorry but with the way things are in the world regarding muslims -- if you are muslim don't do anything suspicious should be common sense.

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8717345)

You are correct, however if photography is not allowed in a privately owned space then it is often noted near an entrance or enforced by security.

Believe me, seeing these guys walking around with there phones taking pictures I would personally be contacting mall security. Its not like they were taking pictures of there friends for a selfie style photo or anything. I get why there is concern and IMO I would be as well.
Everyone is so PC these days that they will let things that are not right happen simply because they think that somehow they will be labelled a racist. Needs to stop and people need to pull there heads out of there asses.