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Old 01-14-2016, 10:52 PM   #1
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Vancouver Police searching for 3 Middle Eastern men videotaping Pacific Centre Mall

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2016/01/v...c-centre-mall/

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Vancouver Police are seeking the public’s help in identifying three Middle Eastern men who were seen taking 360 video within Pacific Centre Mall in downtown Vancouver on Tuesday, January 12 at approximately 6:30 p.m.

The men were seen taking video of exits and entrances and specifically capturing shots of the Dunsmuir Street exit. Mall security tried locating them but were unsuccessful.

Police initially believed four men were taking video, but the number of persons of interest has since been reduced to three men.


If you have any information about the men in the photo, please contact Vancouver Police Constable Colin Small at 604-717-2582 or Crime Stoppers 1-800-222-8477.
Some of us including me go to PC frequently. Any wild guesses of their motives?

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POLICE INVESTIGATING SUSPICIOUS INCIDENT AT PACIFIC CENTRE MALL

January 14, 2016
Vancouver Police are investigating a suspicious incident after three men were seen taking photographs inside a mall in downtown Vancouver.

Around 6:30 p.m. on Tuesday, January 12th, three Middle Eastern looking men were seen inside Pacific Centre Mall taking photographs of the entrances and exits.

There is no information to believe that these men have committed a crime. Nor do we have information to believe that the public is currently at risk.

Police are interested in speaking with them about their activity in the mall.

Public safety remains our top priority and we are working with mall security and management to ensure the safety of visitors and staff.

Anyone with information about these men is asked to call the Vancouver Police Department at 604-717-3235.
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the article doesn't say why they're searching for them.
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The official media release

Police Investigating Suspicious Incident at Pacific Centre Mall | Vancouver Police Department
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what the hell?

sounds like police just jumped on to the assumption that they're planning on terrorism or setting up a bomb.

how many middle eastern people do we have in Canada? and how many people have smart phones?

if they were 3 teenage girls taking pictures at shopping mall, nobody would've give 2 shits about it.
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Not normal for anyone to take pictures of all the exits and entrances..
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Not normal for anyone to take pictures of all the exits and entrances..
absolutely, it is very weird what they were doing... but if they are terrorists, they are some of the worst terrorists around.

come on, they could have at least tried to be incognito about it!!!

i'm sure it was nothing, but if it is something, these guys are even bigger idiots than normal terrorists!
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Derp Timpo... If you think the police are giving out all the information they have you're sadly mistaken. I'm sure they have very good reasons/further information that you don't need to know about.
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that certainly is suspicious to take photos of entrances and exits... but with google street view available, and inconspicuous cameras for sale (even in best buy), these guys clearly aren't the brightest, if they are up to no good
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I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about
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I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about
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Why the fail in the first post. Yes it's a judgement call and yes I hope it's something totally innocent. But Like above me, better safe than fuckin sorry. Trust your gut
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The story/post probably broke before there was an official/public/media release.

If you look at one of the VCB Twitter accounts's, there's a tweet saying it was "tip" they got (https://twitter.com/farhanmohamed/st...883334422528); but there's a pic that may have been what they ran the story based on (https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status...405350531072); note the intended audience/nature of the information.
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Imagine what would happen to GVR RE if a terrorist attack takes place in PC? That's where all the fuerdai goes to spend their money!
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I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about
Would you rather have reactive police work, or proactive police work? Srs question; not trying to be flippant

Capturing exits/entrances is quite the deviant, and dare I say, suspicious behaviour... it isn't unreasonable to infer that these guys are up to no good. The police are being diligent in carrying out their mandate, which is to serve and protect the public.

Kinda looking at this from a utilitarian perspective... I'm okay with stigmatizing a few guys to ensure the safety of the general public. They could be innocent, for all we know; but as jonwon so candidly put it... better safe than sorry.

But, man, you're right; this is definitely something to be discussed
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There's always gonna be a debate between safety and fear getting the best of everyone and a lot of ppl will argue about making early assumptions or racial profiling but if worse case scenario it was an attack, then what do you tell the people who lost loved ones? Or how would you feel if someone you love was a victim? "Im sorry but we werent cautious enough because we didnt want to look like we were racist or a poor judge of character"

I definitely understand that there are borders that shouldnt be crossed but with the current situation happening around the world i think its justifiable that vancouver is being cautious and vigilant.
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I'm thinking the guys were casing that particular area of the mall for a possible robbery.
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