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Old 04-06-2016, 03:54 PM   #51
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Drunk driving is preventable, call a friend, taxi, or fucking walk. This person is a real selfish fuck.

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100 percent on that. It still amazes me how many people drive drunk still. I work at a club for a side job and there has been numerous times i have had to man handled kids/adults out of there cars cause they think they are ok to drive.

What a terrible accident.
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I heard on the radio that the driver was released from custody, charges pending conclusion of investigation.
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I heard on the radio that the driver was released from custody, charges pending conclusion of investigation.
Still no info on DUI.

If you read the comment section on all the news articles, people are raging how he should've been in jail right away. Even though they don't know the whole story.
Some people are saying "what if officer was at fault" because the truck had a right of way.

What if he was going maybe like 65km/h on 50km/h zone?
120km/h on 50km/h zone would be unacceptable, but what if it was only slightly faster than the speed limit?

What if following was the scenario?
-No DUI
-Headlights were on
-65km/h on 50km/h zone
-Officer failed to check before driving off the parking lot
-Truck driver had a right of way

I understand that this is sad, and kids lost their mom. But unfortunately accidents like this happen.

I feel sorry for the victim, I really do. But thousands of Canadians die because of accidents like this every year. This particular victim happened to be an RCMP officer so the entire country, Justin Trudeau, Christy Clark, RCMP Superintendent, all the other people are sending flowers, donations, condolences, support, etc...to the victim's family.

What if this victim was an average single mom working as a cashier at grocery store supporting her kids? Not much of media attention would've made or certainly not up to this magnitude of attention would've been made.

Nobody said he was drunk, not Saanich Police, not RCMP, not even witness. I don't know how that rumor spread out.

The RCMP is certainly not taking lightly on this, so I don't think they would just release this guy if he had previous record of being danger to the public, or DUI of alcohol or drugs. Especially when one of their own member lost her life.

Saanich Police is still investigating what really happened, maybe this guy was actually doing 120km/h, headlights off, and DUI. Who knows. But I feel that there's way too many speculations going on.
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reminds me a lot of the cop that died in surrey a few years ago on 64th and 144th. they charged the truck driver and put him through hell only to stay the charges in the end.

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Nobody said he was drunk, not Saanich Police, not RCMP, not even witness. I don't know how that rumor spread out.
I'm guessing the media, since the RCMP usually say they're verifying whether or not alcohol or speed were factors. I'm pretty sure that's standard procedure for them to look into those things but people seem to twist that statement a lot.
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100 percent on that. It still amazes me how many people drive drunk still. I work at a club for a side job and there has been numerous times i have had to man handled kids/adults out of there cars cause they think they are ok to drive.

What a terrible accident.
I am so not suprised
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Are lowered cars even legal?
lol. What i was saying is when a truck is lifted the bumpers are higher than normal and not engineered to be that way. So its possible you could be putting other people at risk in a collision. So i'm wondering if lifted trucks are legal.

I guess same goes for a car being lowered. But with a lowered car you are only putting yourself in danger, not others. I had a lowered smaller acura and sometimes larger vehicles such as trucks wouldn't see me when changing lanes - Likely cause they could bearly see my roof in their side mirrors.
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I would never drive a car that's super low. Your head is coming off if you get hit by a pickup with aftermarket steel bumpers.
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lol. What i was saying is when a truck is lifted the bumpers are higher than normal and not engineered to be that way. So its possible you could be putting other people at risk in a collision. So i'm wondering if lifted trucks are legal.

I guess same goes for a car being lowered. But with a lowered car you are only putting yourself in danger, not others. I had a lowered smaller acura and sometimes larger vehicles such as trucks wouldn't see me when changing lanes - Likely cause they could bearly see my roof in their side mirrors.
It is illegal to lift or lower a vehicle. There are specific requirements for bumper height and so on outlined in the MVA but it has never been a big issue.
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I would never drive a car that's super low. Your head is coming off if you get hit by a pickup with aftermarket steel bumpers.
I always thought it was silly to sacrifice safety nevermind practicality for styling

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lol. What i was saying is when a truck is lifted the bumpers are higher than normal and not engineered to be that way. So its possible you could be putting other people at risk in a collision. So i'm wondering if lifted trucks are legal.

I guess same goes for a car being lowered. But with a lowered car you are only putting yourself in danger, not others. I had a lowered smaller acura and sometimes larger vehicles such as trucks wouldn't see me when changing lanes - Likely cause they could bearly see my roof in their side mirrors.
So lets just crack down on lifted trucks and let all the janky s13's roll around because "you're only putting yourself in danger". Both lowered and lifted vehicles suffer from bumpsteer, poorly lowered cars can literally bounce your car out of control, you have a higher chance of causing the other car to roll in a collision with a lowered car, etc.

They're both illegal. They're both "unsafe" in their own respect. So just stahp.
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Most steel bumpers are for off road use only. Those are not street legal. They do not carry DOT certification.
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Neither do 95% of aftermarket parts. My point still stands.
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Most steel bumpers are for off road use only. Those are not street legal. They do not carry DOT certification.
This is not true. The law in BC only has requirements for minimum height/dimensions and that the aftermarket bumper provides the same protection as the OEM one.

You're thinking of the rear under ride guard on semis and their trailers which are DOT requirement.
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Bumpers, mudflaps
12 A motor vehicle, except a motorcycle, shall be equipped with a front bumper, and where a replacement bumper has been installed, it shall give substantially the same protection as the bumper originally installed by the manufacturer.

A motor vehicle shall be equipped with a rear bumper where the manufacturer of the vehicle installed a bumper, and where a replacement bumper has been installed, it shall give substantially the same protection as the original bumper.
A bumper shall be securely fastened to the vehicle, and the bumper bar or brackets shall not be broken, loose or missing.
A bumper must not have a sharp or ragged edge and must not protrude beyond the side of the vehicle.
Mudflaps — A vehicle must be equipped with mudflaps or mudguards as required by section 7.06 of the regulations, which shall not be damaged or worn to the extent they are not effective.

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What's section 7.06?

I'm always getting windshield chips from people without mudflaps.
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Still no info on DUI.

If you read the comment section on all the news articles, people are raging how he should've been in jail right away. Even though they don't know the whole story.
Some people are saying "what if officer was at fault" because the truck had a right of way.

What if he was going maybe like 65km/h on 50km/h zone?
120km/h on 50km/h zone would be unacceptable, but what if it was only slightly faster than the speed limit?

What if following was the scenario?
-No DUI
-Headlights were on
-65km/h on 50km/h zone
-Officer failed to check before driving off the parking lot
-Truck driver had a right of way

I understand that this is sad, and kids lost their mom. But unfortunately accidents like this happen.

I feel sorry for the victim, I really do. But thousands of Canadians die because of accidents like this every year. This particular victim happened to be an RCMP officer so the entire country, Justin Trudeau, Christy Clark, RCMP Superintendent, all the other people are sending flowers, donations, condolences, support, etc...to the victim's family.

What if this victim was an average single mom working as a cashier at grocery store supporting her kids? Not much of media attention would've made or certainly not up to this magnitude of attention would've been made.

Nobody said he was drunk, not Saanich Police, not RCMP, not even witness. I don't know how that rumor spread out.

The RCMP is certainly not taking lightly on this, so I don't think they would just release this guy if he had previous record of being danger to the public, or DUI of alcohol or drugs. Especially when one of their own member lost her life.

Saanich Police is still investigating what really happened, maybe this guy was actually doing 120km/h, headlights off, and DUI. Who knows. But I feel that there's way too many speculations going on.
The way how the cars look after the accident I doubt they are going 65 or even 85km........
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What's section 7.06?

I'm always getting windshield chips from people without mudflaps.
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7.06 Every motor vehicle, trailer and semitrailer not constructed so that the spray and splash of water and mud to the rear of the vehicle is minimized shall be equipped with mudguards and, if necessary, mudflaps.
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With dashcam footage, any chance I can claim windshield damage without fault with ICBC?

I've gotten about 4 windshield chips over the past year from people without mudflaps or mudguards. I've paid to have them repaired, but the shop said another one and I'll likely need a new windshield.
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With dashcam footage, any chance I can claim windshield damage without fault with ICBC?

I've gotten about 4 windshield chips over the past year from people without mudflaps or mudguards. I've paid to have them repaired, but the shop said another one and I'll likely need a new windshield.
Would have to pose the question to ICBC on that one.
1-800-663-3051

Give that number a call and they should be able to tell you if they can do this.
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The way how the cars look after the accident I doubt they are going 65 or even 85km........
I don't know that for sure but..
Look at the truck, it looks like it's drivable. If you look at crash test result even at 30mph(48km/h), the front end would be smashed up to the interior/front door and wouldn't be drivable.
The Crown Victoria did absorb a lot of impact, however there's no bumper. It got hit by the side where vulnerable, and the truck was lifted + heavy as well.

*edit* ok the truck's suspension might be screwed so maybe it's not drivable but still less than crash testing.

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The witness said the truck was going at a high rate of speed as it passed under his balcony.
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Somthing weird with this story.. Guy released, no info on DUI etc

And now on the news this evening, said her body was being flown to Vernon for "testing" relevant to the investigation?
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^ possibly a medical issue that lead to her cruiser ending up in front of the truck?
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