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Old 07-14-2016, 05:29 PM   #1
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Richmond car trader caught turning back the clock

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Vehicle Sales Authority ban Arthur Tong and warn people not to buy from dodgy dealer

ALAN CAMPBELL / RICHMOND NEWS

JULY 12, 2016 04:22 PM

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People who bought second-hand cars in Richmond are being warned to check their records after a dealer was caught rolling back odometers.

Arthur Tong, who ran Delta Well Ltd. and New Star Motors, has been banned for life from selling vehicles.

Tong — who operated New Star out of a unit at 4280 No. 3 Road in Richmond, near Browngate Road — was caught by the Vehicle Sales Authority of British Columbia (VSA) after a complaint was made by one of his customers.

Thirty of the customers who bought a car with adjusted mileage were given their money back after Tong was caught. In total, more than $118,000 was handed back, including four people who had their vehicles purchased back by Tong and Delta Well.

It’s understood at least nine other customers of Tong are out there unknowingly driving cars with much more mileage than they believe.

The VSA’s director of learning and communications, Doug Longhurst, said the authority only bans two or three dealers per year and sending a warning out to the public is “very rare.”

“We felt the need to do this because, although Mr. Tong is banned from operating as a dealer, we feel he may still be out there and people need to know,” added Longhurst.

Few of the cases the VSA handles, said Longhurst, involve the rolling back of odometers.

The VSA is now warning car buyers in the Richmond and Delta areas to avoid buying vehicles associated with Tong, Delta Well or New Star Motors due to the “deliberate, illegal sale of vehicles with tampered odometers.”

Tong, added the VSA, had sold these vehicles while posing as a private seller, mostly on the Internet.

Following a detailed investigation and hearing, Ian Christman, the Registrar of Motor Dealers in B.C., cancelled the dealer registration of Delta Well Ltd, New Star Motors and the salesperson licence of Tong. Tong has since been issued a lifetime ban and is to have no affiliation with a motor dealer in B.C.

During the investigation and initial suspension of Tong last fall, the VSA supervised the return of over $118,000 to 30 customers, including the buyback of two vehicles.

And in a May 24 decision, the registrar determined that, after openly admitting to routinely rolling back odometers, “Mr. Tong was not apologetic and compensated consumers only after being caught.”

It was also apparent, said the VSA, that Tong showed “no indication of remorse or any evidence of rehabilitation or insight into the impact of his actions.”

As a result, there is concern that he may continue to engage in unlawful activity as an unlicensed seller and may continue to pose harm to consumers.

The VSA is asking people who have knowledge of any current unlawful or prohibited activities by Tong, or who may have been affected by his actions in the past but were not located during the course of the investigation, to contact the VSA.

The VSA does have a limited compensation fund for others who may have been affected by Tong’s illegal sales.

More information is available online at http://www.MVSABC.com.
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The one thing I miss about aircare, is being able to use their database to verify mileage (to some degree).
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The one thing I miss about aircare, is being able to use their database to verify mileage (to some degree).
i wouldnt trust the aircare reading at all, they completely fucked up on my car and put the wrong mileage one year (way higher). was such a pita when i went to sell it
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That's why I said "to some degree." Generally, you could follow a pattern, along with how trustworthy the seller seems, plus it was a quick point of reference, on the spot.

If a car never had an insurance claim and wasn't regularly serviced where they track mileage, there was really no other way to verify it.

Making insurance agents note mileage during renewals would be an easy enough way to stay on top of this.
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I remember way back in the day at another shop he'd come to us nickel and diming us to fix things for him as cheap as possible. Basically just another small time "broker". Always did seem like the usual Kingsway dealership type of guy. Never dealt with him, never would. Low budget brokers, usually means low budget cars, meaning not well cared for and many corners being cut.
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he'll definitely continue to sell cars being a curber on CL
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Unless he does it under different names, won't ICBC limit him to 6 cars a year or so? Then you need a dealer license?
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I know the VSA enforcer quite well. We discussed this case at length. When he approached Arthur about it he said, "well, I have to compete! How can I compete without rolling back the odometer?" So yeah, zero remorse and only paid out because he was forced to. Total dirtbag IMO.

Why were there no criminal charges? The VSA regulates the transactions between dealers and the retail consumers. If they can come to an agreement then the VSA will enforce that. If they feel that criminal charges are necessary then they will advise on a case by case basis. In this case, he paid out the monies agreed and now has a lifetime ban on selling cars.

He's already back at it I'm sure. Just bridge the regi so his name never appears anywhere.

In other news, the TRD Rs200 guy PM'd me about trading my Evo IX for his S2000. I passed as I have no need for a car like that but I had no idea he was a scammer until I read that linked thread above. Yikes!
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