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Frankly though, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the 'fine dining' scene here in Hong Kong. I don't think many are worth it. And the michelin guide? IMO it's utter bullshit. If you had a great 3 star experience in the US and Europe, don't expect it to be comparable to here. Only thing that'd match is the price. That being said if you must try;
I'd say 8 1/2 Otto, Tang or Ming Court, L'atelier, The Chairman
I would honestly recommend you to save that money for fine dining in another place, and give some of the more local stuff a try, and local doesn't necessarily mean ghetto. Some of the food here you can't really taste/experience anywhere else.
Underbridge Spicy Crab - I always take my friends/clients here that are non-local
Akita Teppanyaki - A high-end teppanyaki place where they draw and write for you
Le Soleil - French/Viet cuisine - Crispy Beef Brisket w/Curry and Bread (there's more than just pho for vietnamese cuisine!)
Hairy Crab Season - it's on now if you like crab guts/mustard
Australia Milk Company or their clones for awesome fluffy scrambled eggs
Roasting your own pig at one of the many outdoor BBQ places (you pay and they provide you with the food to grill)
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Booking three weeks off to Hongkong / asia and planning to eat every single high class restaurant that is the best
Need to pre book via calling or email/website
things I have planned
L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon
Various Gordon Ramsay spots
Any suggestions? Money aint no issue
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ballin' outta control.
Frankly though, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the 'fine dining' scene here in Hong Kong. I don't think many are worth it. And the michelin guide? IMO it's utter bullshit. If you had a great 3 star experience in the US and Europe, don't expect it to be comparable to here. Only thing that'd match is the price. That being said if you must try;
I'd say 8 1/2 Otto, Tang or Ming Court, L'atelier, The Chairman
I would honestly recommend you to save that money for fine dining in another place, and give some of the more local stuff a try, and local doesn't necessarily mean ghetto. Some of the food here you can't really taste/experience anywhere else.
Underbridge Spicy Crab - I always take my friends/clients here that are non-local
Akita Teppanyaki - A high-end teppanyaki place where they draw and write for you
Le Soleil - French/Viet cuisine - Crispy Beef Brisket w/Curry and Bread (there's more than just pho for vietnamese cuisine!)
Hairy Crab Season - it's on now if you like crab guts/mustard
Australia Milk Company or their clones for awesome fluffy scrambled eggs
Roasting your own pig at one of the many outdoor BBQ places (you pay and they provide you with the food to grill)
I don't blame you my man. It's not the same when you dine in HK versus even in Vancouver.
Maybe I'm bias, but I just can't simply take someone seriously when someone serves me in a 5 star hotel. Cause my english is better? I don't know, I don't have the sense of people genuinely loving their job in HK that's #1. Most importantly, people don't passionately care about my experiences during the meal in a lot of fine dining restaurants inHK.
I've been to places where the servers LOVE their job and really am proud of what they do and serve, that to me is a good 4-5 star restaurant. I don't get that feeling anywhere in Hong Kong.
The ONLY time I have that feeling in HK, is when I go drinking and the bartender makes one of their amazing drinks.
It's not just the culture, also the tipping issue. Most waiters don't get tips. 10% is automatically added to your bill as gratuity, but I'll be damned if the waiters they even get part of that. Don't ever offer tips if you're paying by card. If you feel you must tip, slip it to them personally.
That being said, it's not hard to see why they wouldn't be passionate about serving you or about your experiences there, at the end of the day, it's just their 9-5job. You having a shitty time or a great time there, they'll still get paid the same. What's the point of them trying to please you if it doesn't benefit them in the pocket?
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I would honestly recommend you to save that money for fine dining in another place, and give some of the more local stuff a try, and local doesn't necessarily mean ghetto. Some of the food here you can't really taste/experience anywhere else.
So much this. I agree with everything you said, except for Australian Daily Co., that place is extremely overrated. Why the fuck would you travel half way across the world to eat Gordon Ramsey and L'Atelier when you can get that in Vegas.
Eat local food before you can never eat it anymore. Rent is insane ($400,000HKD or more monthly) for local small business, and if Michelin slaps a 1 star label on it, the greedy landlords will raise the rent by 70% (one example). There was a Vietnamese place in CWB that sold 'butter chicken wings' (kinda like Phnom Penh ones) and has been around for 38 years but recently had to close down because of the rent increase. Small businesses eventually won't survive as the years go by and you'll never have those local flavours ever again if it goes extinct.
Don't waste your time with overpriced 'Michelin' restaurants when you should be getting shit like
- Seafood (especially things like razor clams and mantis shrimp)
-Dai Pai Dong's
-Cha Chan Tengs
-Cart noodles
-Brisket or fish ball noodles
etc.
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It's not just the culture, also the tipping issue. Most waiters don't get tips. 10% is automatically added to your bill as gratuity, but I'll be damned if the waiters they even get part of that. Don't ever offer tips if you're paying by card. If you feel you must tip, slip it to them personally.
Worked in HK as a waiter before. Can confirm, did not see any of that service charge.
I go to HK/Macau/China every year for work so I have some experience to work from. As a matter of fact I just came back on Monday from a work/wedding trip there.
Over the years I've eaten at all types of restaurants, and from HK to Kowloon to New Territories. On average, the food in Vancouver is cheaper, fresher, and better. Not to mention we have WAY BETTER service. I would say, unless you're willing to drop $1000+ HKD a person, you're not really experiencing anything better. On the low end, there's plenty of cheap food in HK so that's also a plus. Just remember to bring Tempo paper and be prepared to share tables.
The two things I suggest for decent prices:
1) Buffet at a nice hotel. I'd recommend the one at the JW Marriott at Admiralty or The Grand Buffet at Hopewell Center in Wan Chai (there's also a location at Grand Lisboa in Macau). Imagine a Vegas buffet but with plenty of seafood and Chinese delicacies. The one at Marriott had Fish Maw and whole lobster, the Grand Buffet had Roasted Suckling Pig and other seafood.
2) Dinner at Dai Pai Dong. I usually go to the one at North Point or Happy Valley and you can eat at the wet market. Think of it as between a very run down Parker Place Food Court or a very glorified Hawker Center. Plenty of seafood and other stuff that has a lot of "wok hey". Definitely something that we don't really have here.
Having said that, I had to chance to go to Macau and have some food there. They have plenty of places that serve cheap shark fin and other seafood so it's definitely a try. I'd venture to say Macau has a bit more culture to the food and environment once you get away from the casinos. I loaded up at Koi Kei Bakery since it's famous and plentiful but I just saw the same stuff for sale at T&T last night
So much this. I agree with everything you said, except for Australian Daily Co., that place is extremely overrated. Why the fuck would you travel half way across the world to eat Gordon Ramsey and L'Atelier when you can get that in Vegas.
Eat local food before you can never eat it anymore. Rent is insane ($400,000HKD or more monthly) for local small business, and if Michelin slaps a 1 star label on it, the greedy landlords will raise the rent by 70% (one example). There was a Vietnamese place in CWB that sold 'butter chicken wings' (kinda like Phnom Penh ones) and has been around for 38 years but recently had to close down because of the rent increase. Small businesses eventually won't survive as the years go by and you'll never have those local flavours ever again if it goes extinct.
Don't waste your time with overpriced 'Michelin' restaurants when you should be getting shit like
- Seafood (especially things like razor clams and mantis shrimp)
-Dai Pai Dong's
-Cha Chan Tengs
-Cart noodles
-Brisket or fish ball noodles
etc.
Worked in HK as a waiter before. Can confirm, did not see any of that service charge.
Okay, since you are from Hong Kong,
Any recs for restaurants that are not michelin rated?? I love seafood (crab and lobster) , sushi and everything basically
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that's a great secret date spot,
i bet no girl in vancouver has seen it.
So much this. I agree with everything you said, except for Australian Daily Co., that place is extremely overrated.
I second this comment.
The food wasn't bad, but nothing too special.
OP, definitely try to smaller places. For dinner, we had claypot rice. Nothing fancy but it was good when we were there in January when it was 10C.
You have to go to Mongkok and try some of the street vendor snacks. I love stinky tofu with some spicy mustard. Yum.
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Any recs for restaurants that are not michelin rated?? I love seafood (crab and lobster) , sushi and everything basically
sorry sushi is a no no in HK. Same goes to oysters. I mean for $1 - $1.5 happy hour at Joe Fortes for example, it's IMPOSSIBLE to beat. You can't get anything like that in HK.
1) Seafood; take a drive to Sai Kung 西貢
Don't go during the weekend, you'll just get raped. Go during weeknights; and just pick and choose what you like. Make it the way you like.
OR go to Temple Street; down the middle there are TONS of deep fried street food; grab a table and it's just freaking amazing. Point at the picutres and you're good to go.
2) buffet at HK are the best. WHY? In North America, well know chef opens their own place, in HK, they are all hired INTO hotels.
The BEST one i have been to: The Market. located at Level 2, Hotel Icon, 17 Scien Museum Road, Tsim Sha Tsui East
king crab, spanish ham, durian ice cream, pk duck wrap, free glass of champagne for brunch AND great service. $500 HKD per head
3) 深水埗 Sham Shui Po for snake soup etc.. Hong Kong, 深水埗鴨寮街170號
Shia Wong Hip is really famous for their snakes.
4) Drinks at LKF
Jerry Maguire Cocktails & Desserts.
or Bitters and Sweets for drinks also at LKF
From HK, been back 20+ times and I just can't tell you which is famous for what, HK is just famous of variety of unique restaurants.
If you do want to know what's famous well here are top 3
1) Famous dim sum that's 1 star = Tim Ho Wun (is it good? it's ok, but you don't get a chance to sit properly, and it's epic line up)
2) Famous breakfast with SHIT service = Australian Dairy Co. FAMOUS for shit service and you better know what you order as there's ONLY 1 thing. Zero fucks given when you order; you need 1 second to think, fuck you, I'm coming back for your order later.
famous scrabbled eggs with heavy cream.
3) 24/7 type food at LKF similar to #9 in Vancouver = 翠華餐廳.
I agree with everything you said, except for Australian Daily Co., that place is extremely overrated.
If someone has never been there, it is a sight to be seen. The way the waiters just crisscross inbetween all the different tables in the 1' space available. The way the waiter comes up to you within 10 seconds after you sit down, fully expecting you ready to order. How food (your typical set menu B) comes right up 30 sec after you order. The place is such an amazingly well-oiled machine that you just gotta see it for yourself.
I agree the food wasn't anything special. But the place definitely is. And hey, their egg pudding / milk pudding thing are pretty good.
But don't linger there. You are more or less expected to finish your meal and get the hell out within 10 min after sitting down.
I used to love going to Honolulu Coffee Shop in Wan Chai:
Loved their chilled milk tea; love their fluffy giant sized egg tarts. But I haven't been there for ages, and someone told me they have changed owners "recently" and the place isn't as good as before.
But yes, definitely go for the local places and forget fine dining.
Here are some suggestions of places I like or recommend to people for typical HK dishes. These may not be "the best" based on personal opinion or food guides, but are places I go to that I prefer over others that serve the same things, that I've been to personally on more than one occasion.
And sorry, no Michelin stars here.
Look them up on OpenRice for addresses:
Roast Goose: Chan Kee - Mong Kok - Also their char siu is fine. Many will tell you to go to sham tseng for this dish. That may be, but this place is originally from there and it's easy to get to, so you don't have to go all the way there.
Char Siu: Joy Hing - Wan Chai - By far the best char siu I've had, ever. And I've had a LOT.
HK style french toast: Lan Fong Yuen - Central. Many places serve good french toast, many have crappy french toast. It's hit or miss, this place is a good representation. You may also want to try other style buns and HK style breakfast
HK fresh buns - Hong Lin, Prince Edward. SUPER fresh, straight from the back of the room. Get the pineapple bun with butter. Also pretty good for typical cha chan teng cafe food. Good curry, good baked stuff.
Pork chop curry - Sun King Yuen - Wan Chai - Speaking of curry, this place serves fucking AWESOME pork chop curry. It's a quick dine and dash place, don't expect much for ambience. Also their fried noodles are good.
Dim Sum, classic experience - Lin Heung Tea House - Sheung Wan - There are a few places that are still super crowded with lots of yelling and hot carts running around. This one is my favourite for pretty good quality while providing that experience.
Dim Sum, boring experience - Tim Ho Wan - Everywhere - This place is VERY HIGHLY OVERRATED. However they are an easy sit down and order experience, with english menus. The menu is very limited, but they serve all the basics and do them well. That's why it's easy to recommend. Not nearly as crowded as they used to be.
Beef Brisket Curry - Tai Hing - EVERYWHERE - This is a chain that has taken over the city, including replacing many of my favourite places. Prices aren't great, but the food is decent and consistent. It's usually just a standby place, when you don't know where else to go. However their beef brisket curry is REALLY FUCKING GOOD and worth having if you like the dish. Second ONLY to Mui Garden in Richmond which I miss dearly
Anyway there's a few I can think of off the top of my head. There may be others that I add later. Also there are plenty of places that serve good food, but MANY more that do a bad job. That's why I often stick to the same places. I've checked out SO many new restaurants only to be disappointed. The thing about HK is that new restaurants and whacky 'new' dishes get so overhyped, but it's the old standbys that are really worth checking out if you're visiting. The worst example of this is Australian Dairy Co. That place is a HORRIBLE experience with the most boring, lame food you can imagine. I have NO idea how it got so hyped with tourists.
6793026: This guy knows his shit. Shia Wong Yip is one of my favorite hangouts. Also yes, Sai Kung is quite a treat, just don't go on weekends. Too many people.
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FYI: Buffets in HK area a great steal if you know places. Example: Promenade Restaurant (Buffet@Harbour Plaza Metropolis)
Lunch, M-F $308 / Sat - Sunday $378 if you purchase coupon online, 20% off, M-F $278
Fresh shuck Fresh Oyster done in front of you, and all you can eat haagen dazs ice cream bar. M-F no king crab legs I think but still. In HK, oysters are mofo expensive, so this buffet is a an awesome deal.
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