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4444 11-13-2016 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8802066)
If a random person starts verbally engaging like that for absolutely no reason, you can be damn sure to expect him to escalate and start throwing punches for no reason as well. .
but that didn't happen.

he was showing a middle finger through glass
OP went to confront him in response, the guy threw verbals - OP was the one to get physical

in fact, the complete opposite of what you're assuming would happen actually happened.

MrPhreak 11-13-2016 12:37 PM
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westopher 11-13-2016 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802120)
IMO he also seemed to have a white-power thing going on in his attire.
Unless he was wearing an SS uniform or a white linen set, I'm curious as to what "white power" attire is.

MrPhreak 11-13-2016 01:52 PM
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Digitalis 11-13-2016 01:52 PM
I think there arn't enough dads punching these kids in the faces while they were growing up.

I just had some native teen lunge at me and come into my personal space to see if I would be scared or "jump" out of the way.

westopher 11-13-2016 02:03 PM
People who's dad's punched them in the face are the ones who act like that.

4444 11-13-2016 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802120)
Well, let's be crystal clear; I didn't throw any stabbing punches... I confronted him after he refused to stop harassing me, he was initially combative and I gave him a firm shove which seemed to make him rethink what he was doing and he fucked off.

As for your expert assessment of him being high or his motives as to why he decided to single me out... frankly you are being way more speculative than I am on it given that you were not there. He didn't seem like he was high to me, and he then walked into a police station and gave them a lucid account of a bogus story to try and get me in trouble... if he had been high, I think they would have raised an eyebrow. IMO he also seemed to have a white-power thing going on in his attire.

Finally, I am not saying that I handled this perfectly, in fact I was fairly distressed about it and deeply unsatisfied about how it played out. It is one of the reasons I made this thread really. I wanted to see if anybody on here has been the victim of something like this, and how you guys handled it.
"maybe he was high" is proposing an alternative not speculating. not sure how you suddenly say i am speculating (I also provided three possible alternatives, so no speculation at all).

based on your words, he was not at all combative, he did not touch you or bring physicality into this - you did.

you were visually confronted at which point you verbally confronted him - you, and only you, brought physical force into play.

based on your words, and your words alone, you are the one that turned a weird situation into a dangerous situation.

and WTF is a stabbing punch?

4444 11-13-2016 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802120)
IMO he also seemed to have a white-power thing going on in his attire.
and now you're the one bringing race into this - first you speculate he was the racist. shoe's on the other foot, isn't it!

4444 11-13-2016 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802133)
He seemed like a racist prick to me, hard to quantify that though
HAHAHAHA, how? unless he said something racist (which you haven't even mentioned) you're just trying to turn this into a race thing.

you sound like a right wet blanket

SupraTTturbo2jz 11-14-2016 02:15 AM
if you wanna be a tough ass then confront those type of ppl, if you wanna protect your life and go on with a peaceful day ignore those shit heads. Shit can always go wrong and real fast, life is fragile. I've realized this shit myself and i used to road rage and confront ppl. Not worth it. Maybe if it had something to do to physically harm myself, my girl, or my family/friends then of course im gonna take action. We're better than those fuck heads out there. Let them be

blkgsr 11-14-2016 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802092)
Yeah I did this... and he stayed there for like 2 minutes getting more and more aggressive. I felt like he was taking it as a sign of weakness to avoid the confrontation and I didn't want him coming into the store. My wife was inside with me and my primary concern at the time was keeping this guy as far away from her as possible.

Reflecting on how he was dressed (black from head to toe, kind of designer Gothic... but more millennial), I think he might have singled us out because we are a interracial couple and that irked him.
you should have continued sitting there until 1) he came inside or 2) confronted you outside when you went to leave

who gives a fuck if some crazy is fingering you through a piece of glass? move fucking seats or ignore him. you gave him the attention he was looking for

if he approached you outside, then completely different story, i'd do everything in my power to protect my wife too but by the sounds of it, you got up and went outside to "shove" the guy....not a smart move

Sid Vicious 11-14-2016 09:31 AM
should've gave him a stone cold stunner

http://stillrealtous.com/wp-content/...6/stunner8.gif

GLOW 11-14-2016 10:34 AM
kind of reminds me of road house where patrick swayze (Dalton) is trying to teach the bouncers to not go straight to a physical altercation as option 1 and to keep their cool:

Quote:
Steve: Being called a cocksucker isn't personal?
Dalton: No. It's two nouns combined to elicit a prescribed response.
Steve: What if somebody calls my mama a whore?
Dalton: Is she?
this stunner is more related to current events
http://i.giphy.com/13W4m6ZevaC5P2.gif


EDIT: not making any judgement, i wasn't there and don't know ... for all i know he could have also made the finger across the throat gesture/threat...

Ferra 11-14-2016 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802013)
Sure,

Basically he cautioned me not to engage with people like this because they might have dirty needles or a knife and I could be putting myself in harms way. I didn't really consider that at the time. He basically advised me to call the police and let them handle it.
I am going to assume he is some junkies/homeless guy with mental illness.
You can't win an altercation with people like that. If you feel the need, finger them back and ignore them like they don't exist. You already won by not being in their place. (Like the internet, the best way to win against a troll is by putting them in your ignore list)

If it is some "normal" assholes who just want to pick a fight...I'd advocate fighting back tho.
Always backing down from any confrontation just makes you a pussy. Fist fight doesn't get you into much trouble, and when you look back in the future, you can at least tell yourself you fought back like a man.

Traum 11-14-2016 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra (Post 8802306)
If it is some "normal" assholes who just want to pick a fight...I'd advocate fighting back tho.
Always backing down from any confrontation just makes you a pussy. Fist fight doesn't get you into much trouble, and when you look back in the future, you can at least tell yourself you fought back like a man.
The problem with fist fight is, you never know when the other guy is gonna pull out a knife and stab you a few times.

SumAznGuy 11-14-2016 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra (Post 8802306)
If it is some "normal" assholes who just want to pick a fight...I'd advocate fighting back tho.
Always backing down from any confrontation just makes you a pussy. Fist fight doesn't get you into much trouble, and when you look back in the future, you can at least tell yourself you fought back like a man.
That is the worst thing to do.
Just ignore the guy and if that doesn't work, change seats.
Yes, in that guy's eyes you are a pussy. But in the end, do you really win if you go out and fight the guy? I have better things to do with my time than to go to the police station and explain why I was involved in a fight let alone all the other stuff like dirty needles or knives.

CivicBlues 11-14-2016 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra (Post 8802306)
I am going to assume he is some junkies/homeless guy with mental illness.
You can't win an altercation with people like that. If you feel the need, finger them back and ignore them like they don't exist. You already won by not being in their place. (Like the internet, the best way to win against a troll is by putting them in your ignore list)

If it is some "normal" assholes who just want to pick a fight...I'd advocate fighting back tho.
Always backing down from any confrontation just makes you a pussy. Fist fight doesn't get you into much trouble, and when you look back in the future, you can at least tell yourself you fought back like a man.
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/56014534.jpg

GS8 11-14-2016 01:07 PM
Geez

Last time I fingered someone, there was only comfort, not conflict

:ifyouknow:

MarkyMark 11-14-2016 01:09 PM
Fighting a complete stranger probably isn't the smartest thing to do. It's not highschool where you see the dude everyday, who knows what the person is capable of.

If you have to defend yourself then of course do so, but don't do it just because you didn't want to look like a bitch.

This actually reminds me of a guy that I used to work with, he had a 6 inch scar going down the side of his face from being knifed at some place in Vancouver after a big fight broke out. Some people might think it's cool but I sure as fuck wouldn't want some big scar on half my face for life over some bullshit fight.

Traum 11-14-2016 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8802319)
Geez

Last time I fingered someone, there was only comfort, not conflict

:ifyouknow:
If comfort was all you've got, it seems to me that you didn't get it quite right.

Last time I got a soaked bedsheet... :ifyouknow:

SumAznGuy 11-14-2016 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8802322)
If comfort was all you've got, it seems to me that you didn't get it quite right.

Last time I got a soaked bedsheet... :ifyouknow:
both of you guys got it wrong.


Ferra 11-14-2016 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8802310)
That is the worst thing to do.
Just ignore the guy and if that doesn't work, change seats.
Yes, in that guy's eyes you are a pussy. But in the end, do you really win if you go out and fight the guy? I have better things to do with my time than to go to the police station and explain why I was involved in a fight let alone all the other stuff like dirty needles or knives.
A guy who randomly taunts you sitting on the window...No, cause I'd think he is just sick in the head.

I am talking about not backing down against assholes who...e.g. steal your parking spot, road rage, talk shit about you to make you look bad on purpose infront of others, guys who "bumps" into you and want you to apologize to him...etc

Honestly..I said that because, years ago, some asshole stole my parking spot (boxing day, takes 30min to find a spot), I swear and confronts him but he essentially walk off laughing saying what you gonna do. Today, I didn't think "Yay I kept a calm head and didn't get into a fight". I regret not punching him in the face and not doing more. I know it is such a small thing, but it still feels like shit knowing I let an asshole walk all over me and I didn't put up a fight at all.

Not badass...i just have a huge disdain for assholes

SumAznGuy 11-14-2016 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra (Post 8802328)
A guy who randomly taunts you sitting on the window...No, cause I'd think he is just sick in the head.

I am talking about not backing down against assholes who...e.g. steal your parking spot, road rage, talk shit about you to make you look bad on purpose infront of others, guys who "bumps" into you and want you to apologize to him...etc

Honestly..I said that because, years ago, some asshole stole my parking spot (boxing day, takes 30min to find a spot), I swear and confronts him but he essentially walk off laughing saying what you gonna do. Today, I didn't think "Yay I kept a calm head and didn't get into a fight". I regret not punching him in the face and not doing more. I know it is such a small thing, but it still feels like shit knowing I let an asshole walk all over me and I didn't put up a fight at all.

Not badass...i just have a huge disdain for assholes
That's the problem. So if you punched him in the face and then what.
Would you have gotten your parking spot back?
Did you end up getting a parking spot somewhere else?
Did life end because someone kicked sand in your face?

You know who the real winner is? The person who didn't have a heart attack over something so trivial. Sorry OP, same goes to you. Life goes on.

Harvey Specter 11-14-2016 03:09 PM
I had a friend who punched a random guy because he bumped into his GF a few years back. He was at UBC, had a promising career lined up and he lost it all including his GF at the time because he got charged and found guilty for assault. Some random dick isn't worth flushing your life and career down the toilet.

MrPhreak 11-14-2016 07:25 PM
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