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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8802321)

Fighting a complete stranger probably isn't the smartest thing to do. It's not highschool where you see the dude everyday, who knows what the person is capable of.

If you have to defend yourself then of course do so, but don't do it just because you didn't want to look like a bitch.

This actually reminds me of a guy that I used to work with, he had a 6 inch scar going down the side of his face from being knifed at some place in Vancouver after a big fight broke out. Some people might think it's cool but I sure as fuck wouldn't want some big scar on half my face for life over some bullshit fight.

Sometimes you gotta stand up to people and do what is right despite the consequences though

If I saw somebody getting harassed or assaulted I'd do whatever I could to help, even if it means putting myself in harms way. I also hope if I ever find myself in a bad situation, somebody would do the same for me.

It might sound stupid and reckless, but I was jumped from behind in Burnaby about 10 years ago by 4 or 5 people and took the beating of my life. A group of people saw it, and basically came and fought them off and gave me a ride home. It was one of the scariest things I've ever had happen and it gives me chills to this day thinking about how it could have turned out.

Ever since then I've gone out of my way to help people when they get into trouble. I am usually the first person to stop and help somebody change a tire, or tow somebody out of a ditch. I'd certainly risk a scar or injury to help somebody getting attacked without question. It isn't about ego, it is about standing up for what is right and trying to foster the kind of world I want to live in.

well sometimes to be strong means you have to walk away

so what would you do if someone tried pick pocketing you...your expensive phone,wallet? :rukidding:

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802376)

My bad... didn't' realize that you weren't speculating when you hypothesized/guessed/suggested/ he might be high.

So you do realize that the word "combative" literally means ready or eager to fight? If I follow the dictionary definition of the word, then he was combative when I confronted him to find out why he was harassing me. Sorry, if I didn't make that more clear before. The guy verbally was indicating he wanted to fight rather than explain himself, and I did not.

To be honest, I think he would have taken a swing at me if I hadn't shoved him, so it was defensive more than anything.

It wasn't a weird situation, it was a clear cut case of somebody attempting to harass, threaten, and intimidate me, and in my view a direct confrontation of some kind was imminent.

How exactly is the shoe on the other foot? lol

I was trying to figure out why this guy targeting me seemingly randomly, and this seems like a somewhat plausible reason

My other working theory is he was just wrapping up a long night of protesting Trump and he was riding a confidence wave of intimidating people.

Wet blanket? lol That is a strange insult.

What is your deal anyway... why do you have a hard on for seeing this happen to people and then ridiculing how they react?

I appreciate your point of view and contribution to the thread as the devils advocate, but I am having a hard time understanding where you are coming from by taking this guys side.

The truth is when you get into a situation like this, reacting in the most ethical or safest way isn't as easy as it sounds, especially when you are feeling threatened and emotions are running high. Sure, maybe if I ignored the guy he would have gone his merry way... but very likely he may have come into the store and I would have been at a major disadvantage sitting down and then having to worry about my protecting my wife as well.... or maybe he would have left, but then jumped me outside with a weapon from behind?

Looking back with a clear head, I think the best move would have been to call 911 and get the police there to deal with it. It didn't occur to me at the time, and maybe this was a wake up call that I need to be prepared for these types of unexpected occurrences in Vancouver going forward.

it's like trying to explain something to a child, this.

Let me make it clear to you, based entirely on the words you wrote:

you made the first, and only physical move - that is not in defense / defensive unless he had a weapon. There was no weapon just words (sticks and stones... remember that when you were a kid).

a defensive move would be to disarm and combatant upon their first move (you should learn karate, or equivalent, a beautiful discipline that teaches you to neutralize a threat without excess force - use your combatant's force to your advantage).

i'm not on his side, but i can tell you absolutely that you cannot defend your actions - you are entirely in the wrong for confronting and then physically engaging with him.

how the shoe is on the other foot - you speculated that he was trying to harass you (middle finger through a window) because you are in an interracial relationship, thus he was a racist. you then go and say he was wearing white power clothing - you are the one bringing race into this, no one else, ergo, you are the questionably racist one.

everything you have said against the other guy is actually more applicable to you - you bring race into this, you physically accosted the guy... he may be a fucking idiot, but you're on another level!

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8802381)

What I'm saying is I wouldn't be the one to start making it physical unless I had to. If a guy starts chewing me out for no reason I'm not going to punch him in the face just because I can.

Helping someone who's already getting their ass kicked is different, it's already gotten to the point of physical harm so I feel you can do what's necessary to help them.

So driving into work this morning, not sure how but some driver was upset and starts laying on the horn. Not sure what happened or who the first beep was directed to.
1 block later, the light was changed to yellow and I decided to stop instead of running it.
Same guy lays on the horn.
Light turns green and I continue on my way and the guy pulls up beside me and lays on the horn for a good block.

Guess what, he turned right and I turned left and went to work.

I could have tailed him and followed him to his work.
I could have honked him back.
Hell, I could have played bumper cars with him.
Even worse, I could have pulled a bat or a knife out and attacked him. Does that put money in my pockets? Last time I checked, i get paid to show up to work. Going to jail doesn't pay.
Oh yeah, in the case of Harvey's friend, the criminal record also makes it a pain in the arse to go to the US. Criminal records are like herpes. The gift that keeps on giving.

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8802457)

Lol i used to react
Now i find more satisfaction in generally ignoring idiots like that...simply because I know their day is already ruined by emotion and I couldn't be bothered to give two shits. When they pull up and try to engage in verbal war i keep my windows up and just smile and wave. Sometimes it takes them by surprise and they just go on. Other times they get even angrier and that makes it even funnier for me.

One summer i remember some redneck tailgating me on a one lane road. I was already going relatively fast, and faster than the speed limit. When it finally opened to two lanes, guy proceeded to pull up beside me and starts screaming bloody murder. I did my whole smile and wave. That set him off, and I could see the veins in his forehead and spit flying off his mouth as he's bitching and driving. At that point, I kinda lost it and just burst out laughing. He turned even redder and angrier and proceeded to pull forward and fake merging and even brake checking me trying to egg me on. I was still in a laughing mood at this point. I wish I had a dash cam then to record the whole thing. Eventually he backed off. I was on my way to my buddy's bbq and had an awesome day, laughed about it over a few beers. Even did a few impression of his angry, spitting face. He probably went to his destination and let the whole thing ruin his head and blow up his blood pressure. Hell, the guy's probably dead from an aneurysm by now.

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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8802351)

I had a friend who punched a random guy because he bumped into his GF a few years back. He was at UBC, had a promising career lined up and he lost it all including his GF at the time because he got charged and found guilty for assault. Some random dick isn't worth flushing your life and career down the toilet.

This should be the lesson here. Most of us in this thread have built up a nice life for ourselves with lots to lose. Why throw that away over anger from some asshole threating you? Unless they are physcially threatening your personal space and you fear for your safety then walking away is ALWAYS the best move. Always. Most of these weirdos just want to watch the world burn or are trying to scam so don't engage with that shit at all. Take a course on personal defense to learn how to disarm someone or put them in a hold. Once you learn that you will be person that walks away all the time because you have nothing to prove.

Some of the things in this thread that have you guys raging is crazy. #yougotztochill

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802465)

In my many commutes, I would get pissed but would usually just scream in my car. Felt better. Nothing beyond that. That would only happen when I'd see something really stupid or dangerous like when someone makes a blind lane change while I'm there.

But usually when people are after me (always tailgaters / aggressive drivers), I just do a little dance in my car like I was dancing to Janet Jackson circa 1996 with a literal ear-to-ear grin on my face while looking straight ahead as if I was completely focused on the road and not the other driver.

I learned that anger feeds off anger but no one really bothers with the amped up dancing-to-Janet crazy fuck.

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8802489)

In my many commutes, I would get pissed but would usually just scream in my car. Felt better. Nothing beyond that. That would only happen when I'd see something really stupid or dangerous like when someone makes a blind lane change while I'm there.

I learned that anger feeds off anger but no one really bothers with the amped up dancing-to-Janet crazy fuck.

hahahahahhaha...i think i'll try that some time.

I tend to do the same when someone really pisses me off on the road. I verbally destroy them inside my car and only I can hear it...(and my dashcam).
Some of the shit i've privately screamed in my car makes the worst of what Trump has said look like gospel bible verses.

Dude, I had your defence earlier, but you are saying that some random white guy dressed in "white power attire" targeted you because you are in an interracial relationship.
I know its really en vogue to be victimized by the white devil right now, but sometimes people who are assholes just happen to be a different race than you.

Lol. Can agree with everyone here about laughing it off during road rage. Few months ago I had to merge into a lane and the guy I was going in front of lost his shit. Initially thought he was giving me props as we drove the same car (lol) but he fingered me and verbally raged as if I heard him behind his closed windows. The damn booger picker pulled up next to me a block later at a red light so I rolled down my windows -- as soon as his was about half way, I rolled mine back up and laughed.

Couple weeks after that incident, I see him passing a car driving at an appropriate speed in a rainstorm going up Royal Oak -_-.

I remember one time someone was raging on me and cutting me off cause I was in the slow lane going across the Cambie Street bridge. He was absolutely livid that a chinese kid driving a cheap ass corolla couldn't go faster than 65 on the bridge. Of course, this was before the whole distracted driving thing, so I ended up calling the cops on the guy saying he looked like a drunk driver and had been weaving in and out of traffic and being a potential danger to other people on the rode. After the bridge a few blocks I saw him pulled over to the side with a cop car in front of him - I was indeed happy lol.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Money (Post 8802426)

so what would you do if someone tried pick pocketing you...your expensive phone,wallet? :rukidding:

nobody?..guys?...do nothing? :alone:

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Originally Posted by Ball.J.Inder (Post 8802018)

Are there trolls irl in Vancouver? Maybe. Is there a culture built around being a total douche, definitely. When I miss the mountains and ocean of BC, where I was born and raised, I quickly remind myself about the toxic people that live there.

There's plenty of BC outside of the GVRD you know.