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Generation Z'ers can't speak properly or coherently
I work in retail @ Metrotown it's not something I want to do, but it pays the bills and puts food on the table. Every single day I engage with customers of various age gaps. Literally the worst customers I have the displeasure of serving is the Generation Z crowd i.e "the post millenials" & "the iGeneration"
I'm not saying these are inherently bad people per say, but they are completely socially inept. They can't speak properly or express what they want to say in a clear and concise manner. There's nothing more grating to the ears than hearing "ah,um, like, ugh, you know" every 3rd word that comes out of their mouths.
I absolutely blame technology, more specifically phones and texting. There's no doubt in my mind this online form of communication is making people dumber. People don't have to memorize or remember things because google is just a swipe away from getting anything you want to know right at the tip of your fingers.
I like Justin Trudeau and I voted for him, but if you ever listen to him talk when he's not reading off a teleprompter, he's guilty of this. He always says "ugh" and it's hard to listen to because as a listener you become fixed on that word and it's distracting as fuck.
I'm probably going to get downvoted into oblivion. If I were Prime Minister I would make it mandatory for everyone to read at a minimum 20 minutes every single day.
I would tend to agree with you, but the iGeneration is still pretty young, so you can't blame them. Wait until they're a little older and then they'll likely speak with proper diction.
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Not new, every generation has *something* to degenerate social aptitude. This gen it's social apps, last gen it was the IMs like messenger, ICQ, prior it was the television.
Look at it this way, if you didn't have the socially inept it would not create a problem for people to have jobs for.
If you think the way they speak is atrocious, you would be really impressed with their writing.
Blame the school system, for the last 20 years there has been a gradual transition away from grading scholastic performance, we are now at a point where your ability to achieve a passing mark has very little to do with your ability to demonstrate an understanding of the subject matter.
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A good friend of mine sorts resumes at a talent acquisition agency... and she was telling me she's not sure whats worse -- the ridiculous resumes from new immigrants she gets or the ones from younger kids... at least the new immigrants have a damn excuse though lol
It really is quite sad and bewildering at the same time. I've witnessed first hand how a 20-something receptionist couldn't even draft up a simple holiday closure notice, and sometimes these people have university degrees. How do you even get through university when you can't string your ideas together in a coherent and presentable manner? Even though I didn't take a lot of English / arts courses, there were still enough essay / research papers that I had to write to get through the degree, and I just can't possibly understand how people can make the cut (in getting a university degree) while still failing so miserably when conveying themselves verbally or in written format.
some relatives and family friends have brought their kids over to my parents place for social gatherings etc. so occasionally i'm forced to engaged in the typical banter etc.
one of my moms good friends had a son who was like 21 and just got engaged, tried to have a conversation with him and he couldnt muster more than 5 word sentances and if he made any sort of eye contact within the conversation he had a nervous twitch and broke away
experienced this quite a few times with different people of the age group
fiance has a cousin who is the youngest by far out of like 12 cousins, she is 19. me and the wifey always out and about doing things etc. in the summer we went to the PNE 4-5 times, saw her on the walk home and said we had just came from the PNE and the summer nights concerts
"oh yea hah people still go to those things? uhg so lame.."
oh yea, so what are you guys up to?
"heh i dunno, like doing whatever right?"
uhh..yea..
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Seriously. For those of you who have snapchat, they constantly run those "discovery" things as a banner ad while I try and look at my friends stories.
It is either...
1. A kardashian. Often 3/10 of the banners every day is about a kardashian
2. Someone throwing shade
3. Something being 100
4. Something being *blank* AF
5. Something about the vagina (thanks Cosmo?)
6. Gratuitous or innapropriate use of emoji's
Edit: 7. How could I forget squad and fam and lit and steez and fleek or whatever the fuck dictionary tween twits are using nowadays
Sigh.... I am only 27, but I feel like I'm fucking 72
Funny, many of the 30, 40 and 50 year olds I encounter are fucking idiots as well. Its not a generational thing.
I would blame technology for certain types of difficulty interacting, but for every kid that doesn't know how to engage in conversation, theres a 50 year old that won't say thank you when you hold a door for them, a 40 year old blaming whatever race he isn't a part of of him being an underemployed lazy broke fuck, or a 70 year old talking about how "the gays" are destroying the sanctity of marriage.
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i think it goes away with age. I mean look at us, most of us have been on RS for almost 20 years. I'm sure if you look at some of our posts from back then when we were mostly teenagers, the words and sentences we wrote were pretty stupid too. Once you grow older, you realize talking like that doesn't make you cool, just makes you sound retarded.
i think stereotyping generations is silly but meaningful face-to-face interactions does seem to be on a decline across the board (boomers and gen Y as well)
so true regarding the TV to computer to mobile devices as each respective generation's dependence
don't know too much about Canada on this aspect, but I believe it is similar to the US. Friends and I have discussed this topic many times, and from the information i have gathered, here's my opinion up until now.
"The kids are getting dumber/less educated" , I blame the lazy parents who don't get involved in the society and see only short term benefits. example, in the States, they have a school grading system (an A school, a B school,...) the lower the rank, the lower the funding, that ranking is based on it's students success/grades. Whats the catch? well schools lower their testing standards in order for kids to get higher grades, it's a vicious circle. Less work for the schools (more money in their pockets) less quality education for kids. The lazy parents accept all this because less effort for them now tests are easier, less work for them to do with the kids after work. Then even if you have good intention to bring a school from a C to a B school status you don't have enough funding to do so, mostly found in poorer neighborhoods with the parents not being able to support the school economically, the school looses attendance because of it's low grade, closes down, no school for the neighborhood, kids don't do to school.
"The technology is making kids dumber". again lazy parents. buying their kids all the phones, tablets, games they want. It's a cheap and easy way to keep their kids busy so they don't have to do it themselves.
now some natural born kids will stand out and be "normal". but for the rest.... well you get this. you know like what, huh, i mean?
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^I've been saying this for ages. America is the land of opportunity. It is great because of outsiders. Look at all the talent it attracts/gets from Canada. Anyway, it is what it is.
Also, your point about parental involvement is pretty much spot on. Parents are the first and foremost educators. The first 18 months of a child's life is so important. I see so many parents ignoring their children's needs. How can a parent let their baby sit in a crib staring at the walls and ceiling with no stimulation, while they smoke, drink, god knows what else. Babies are like sponges. Just google childhood development.
Like everything in life, take some of the advice with a grain of salt. No need to enroll children in every activity under the sun. A parents time with their own child is of upmost importance. Don't "hand them over" to give yourself more alone time, using the excuse that they're learning new skills.
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Older people use "like", "you know" too, depends on the people they spend time with (work, home). That's how human adapt, taking on the language of their social circle. It is not a generational thing. It ties more to society.
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And here on the rs chat say I talk too much. Lol I hate talking to people who can't string two sentences together. Like, umm, uh, y'know etc etc. Learn to get around it. I simply just say the most inappropriate shit that comes to mind.