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Old 01-13-2017, 01:55 PM   #76
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I have to say that they lost me at "pot of paint".
How much paint is a pot? Is it a pint, with a bit of autocorrect? Is it a fender worth, or can you paint a whole car with 2 pots?

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Old 01-13-2017, 04:50 PM   #77
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Thats becuase its not just the brakes that need replacing.

Did you miss the part where the whole front sub frame needs to be replaced. Add up to all the parts on the passenger side to replace (suspension, brakes, rims, tire) + labor. Unless you want damaged parts.. You can tell by the pic in the driveway that the tire is so far back that basically all suspension parts need replacing.

Then you want to install lesser value brakes on a 1of100 vehicle?
To Put in prospective, a Jaguar F-type the Carbon Ceramic rotors are 9500 A CORNER a CORNER!! and and then 2100 for the front rotors alone, not including labour..

Sure the Regular DB9 Might not have had CC brakes but neither did an ftype and if its a from factory i doubt you could change it back..

And engine output also decides what brakes will go on the vehicle. Much like the F-type base, S and R and now SVR.


They will need the subframe (special order from england only thru Certified dealers and repair facilities), Knuckle both Control arms and god know what else too!
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seen that car very recently at the named shop, it's sitting there in pieces with a cover over it lol
the shop owner is a super nice and reasonable guy, feel bad for him for dealing with such bs
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Also you don't NEED carbon ceramic, base model DB9 didn't have it anyways.
So instead of buying 2 rotors, you're proposing they buy rotors, calipers, pads and try to change any programming in the braking system that's dependent on the ceramics. The end result being a car with lower resale value because it doesn't have the ceramic brakes?
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I'm surprised the news agency gave her the time to tell her stupid story, I'm guessing that she shuttles between China and Canada to export her parents cash and live here just long enough to claim residency. now that's a story.
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I have to say that they lost me at "pot of paint".
How much paint is a pot? Is it a pint, with a bit of autocorrect? Is it a fender worth, or can you paint a whole car with 2 pots?

I gotta know!!
all i could google was that to paint the entire car AM does at least nine coats over 50 man hours... i am going to assume for this repair they are going to paint more than just the fender to blend it all together, ie. the hood and door as well?

Aston Martin Colour and Trim

and i think the front fender is carbon fibre?
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Sounds like the type o person that has 4 houses, and more cars like this. Then claims low income to reap all the benefits with it. Free MSP, reduced/free rec centre fees, tax avoidance.
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So instead of buying 2 rotors, you're proposing they buy rotors, calipers, pads and try to change any programming in the braking system that's dependent on the ceramics. The end result being a car with lower resale value because it doesn't have the ceramic brakes?
ok but seriously though, how much better is Aston Martin carbon ceramic compare to all the other ones?

What about something cheap from Chevy? Corvette and Camaro have carbon ceramic too.

Is Aston brakes THAT MUCH better than one on Camaro?



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ok but seriously though, how much better is Aston Martin carbon ceramic compare to all the other ones?

What about something cheap from Chevy? Corvette and Camaro have carbon ceramic too.

Is Aston brakes THAT MUCH better than one on Camaro?



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It doesn't freakin matter how much better or worse or cheaper it is then other CC rotors on other brands, let alone a domestic brand.

What matters is that they restore the car to its ORIGINAL condition, as it left the FACTORY floor. You don't cheap out and downgrade a car, especially a high performance car. That's called screwing a customer, which to some, is maybe a little unethical.

I don't know about you, but if my car was being repaired at a body shop, you bet I'd want it repaired to factory spec.

But then again, we all would've bought the correct insurance.
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ok but seriously though, how much better is Aston Martin carbon ceramic compare to all the other ones?

What about something cheap from Chevy? Corvette and Camaro have carbon ceramic too.

Is Aston brakes THAT MUCH better than one on Camaro?

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come on Timpo you're better than that! So what about they grab the fender, headlight, subframe, paint, etc from a Hyundai Excel ?
specially for a customer like this, would you risk not putting 2 new rotors and whatever else that may seem redundant to some, only to give that customer the opportunity to crash again and come back at you lawyered up for not replacing those parts?
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It doesn't freakin matter how much better or worse or cheaper it is then other CC rotors on other brands, let alone a domestic brand.

What matters is that they restore the car to its ORIGINAL condition, as it left the FACTORY floor. You don't cheap out and downgrade a car, especially a high performance car. That's called screwing a customer, which to some, is maybe a little unethical.

I don't know about you, but if my car was being repaired at a body shop, you bet I'd want it repaired to factory spec.

But then again, we all would've bought the correct insurance.
Did you even read the whole story? The owner didn't buy collision coverage.

If ICBC was trying to screw over customer, sure I agree with you.
But in this case, she decided not to purchase extra insurance and now complaining about repair cost.
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Did you even read the whole story? The owner didn't buy collision coverage.

If ICBC was trying to screw over customer, sure I agree with you.
But in this case, she decided not to purchase extra insurance and now complaining about repair cost.
I don't think BA will do a cheap 'hack job' if thats is what your trying to get at. There a ICBC valet shop that has to warranty the work for lifetime. They will not skimp on quality just because this lady is being cheap, there's no need to.
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Did you even read the whole story? The owner didn't buy collision coverage.

If ICBC was trying to screw over customer, sure I agree with you.
But in this case, she decided not to purchase extra insurance and now complaining about repair cost.
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No where did they state that as per Aston Martin rotors are required to be replaced as a set. They left it ambiguous and open for interpretation stating there opinion and Not fact.

If I were the customer I would want technical literature stating they need to replaced as a set before spending 30k on rotors. Keep in mind the other side is essentially brand new with under 1000km. Ceramic rotors should last the life of the car, that's why you pay the premium for them.

If BA was smart they would have got the customer to prepay the rotors and subframe and other special order parts before starting work. I'm curious to know
How much there into the job for parts and labour and how much the customer has actually paid. I hope BA has solid documentation of customer approval before going to court or else they will loose big time in court, regardless this job is a huge looser once you factor in the legal fees.

It's shitty situation to be in for both parties involved.
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I don't think BA will do a cheap 'hack job' if thats is what your trying to get at. There a ICBC valet shop that has to warranty the work for lifetime. They will not skimp on quality just because this lady is being cheap, there's no need to.
Sorry for my ignorance, what does BA mean?

Anyways, yeah if original parts were too expensive, I was suggesting she has an option to go for aftermarket.

Chevy Camaro Carbon Ceramic Brakes


Custom Tubular Subframe


If it needs new suspension, there are so many coilover kit for DB9 as well.


and body can be custom made as I suggested already
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BA = Burrard Autostrasse, the name of the shop that is fixing the car.
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No where did they state that as per Aston Martin rotors are required to be replaced as a set. They left it ambiguous and open for interpretation stating there opinion and Not fact.

If I were the customer I would want technical literature stating they need to replaced as a set before spending 30k on rotors. Keep in mind the other side is essentially brand new with under 1000km. Ceramic rotors should last the life of the car, that's why you pay the premium for them.

If BA was smart they would have got the customer to prepay the rotors and subframe and other special order parts before starting work. I'm curious to know
How much there into the job for parts and labour and how much the customer has actually paid. I hope BA has solid documentation of customer approval before going to court or else they will loose big time in court, regardless this job is a huge looser once you factor in the legal fees.

It's shitty situation to be in for both parties involved.
Not certain about AM, but Ferrari requires ceramic rotors to be replaced in pairs. I'm sure AM is probably the same. In theory, even steel rotors should be replaced in pairs.
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if it's my car and I'm paying for the repairs I only want 1 rotor you can't make me buy 2 unless there only sold in pairs which I doubt they are.
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if it's my car and I'm paying for the repairs I only want 1 rotor you can't make me buy 2 unless there only sold in pairs which I doubt they are.
Then BA won't do it for you. Go find someone else. Do you really want to be the body shop that put mismatched rotors on a customer car so that when they crash it again they can blame you?
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More like swap her ass out of the Country w/ no chance of return.
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She should replace the CC rotors with the normal steel rotors. No programming necessary. Just a swap of the disks and pads.
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update on this idiot, so much lol

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Doesn't the legal bill amount to close to what the repair bill is? Lolwot
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Thanks for the update

Well the lawyers are getting rich. MCL and Autostrasse have counter sued her.
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