| Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum. |
 | | 
02-13-2017, 01:41 PM
|
#26 | | i like gifs
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: imgur
Posts: 27,179
Thanked 7,785 Times in 2,695 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by dapperfied  I'd ask for the ring back, sell it and put the money into bank savings for your daughter's future education.
I can't trust someone with 7K, unless they're financially and mentally stable. That's just my pov.
If she complains about this, she's a bitch. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallydrv Sell the ring and open a college fund for ur kid. | Sounds like you genuinely care and love your daughter, so these are the most realistic scenarios provided your ex actually cares about her.
| 
|  | |
02-13-2017, 02:38 PM
|
#27 | | what manner of phaggotry is this
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kelownafornia
Posts: 18,285
Thanked 5,473 Times in 1,814 Posts
|
An Engagement Ring isnt a gift, it is a bribe, lol.
But I agree with whoever said that if the ring is accepted, but someone backs out before the wedding, whoever backed out of the wedding, it goes to the other. eg: If he backs out, she keeps it.
If it is a mutual break, I believe the honest answer is that it should go back to the guy. He spent a lot of his own money (before they agreed to join lives and finances) for the ring. If they choose not to go thru with the wedding, if she keeps it she is gaining an asset and he is losing one. If he keeps it, she is neither gaining nor losing an asset, and he has the ability to recoup some of his losses for the ring.
After the wedding, it is hers to keep.
OP, what I would do: Tell her you guys should mutually sell it, and the money goes into a trust for your daughter. If she turns that down, shes an unreasonable and selfish cunt, and you should dance off into a merry sunset having dodged that bullet.
__________________
STRENGTHaesthetics | |
| | |
02-13-2017, 02:42 PM
|
#28 | | what manner of phaggotry is this
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kelownafornia
Posts: 18,285
Thanked 5,473 Times in 1,814 Posts
|
On a related note, I just saw a post in one of those shop and swaps on facebook. Some skanky looking hoe was selling an engagement ring appraised at like $15k.
Of course I clicked on her profile. Dozens of profile pics full of cleavage shots. It had a "(hoe) got engaged to (sucker)" status like 3 months prior. Poor bastard.
Like a hundred comments with other hoes saying she deserves to keep it and sell it.
__________________
STRENGTHaesthetics | |
| | |
02-13-2017, 03:08 PM
|
#29 | | Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 24,751
Thanked 11,514 Times in 4,905 Posts
|
My two bits........ girl keeps the ring.
You, as a man, gave her that ring. You lived with her for 7 years AND had a child. You are, in the eyes of the law, married (common law). She probably put up with a lot. You may see it differently, but that doesn't matter. She gave birth to a child and probably went through a lot raising that child. A 7K ring? Stop being a cheap ass and move on. Your mistake. Plain and simple.
BTW, I'm old fashioned................ so forgive me.
god bless
__________________ Quote: |
"there but for the grace of god go I"
| Quote: |
Youth is, indeed, wasted on the young.
| YODO = You Only Die Once.
Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.
"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
| |
| | | This post thanked by: | E-SPEC, Fafine, Hehe, highfive, Noir, Skittlez160, Tapioca, threezero, TouringTeg, Traum, vitaminG, v_tec, Wetordry | |
02-13-2017, 03:41 PM
|
#30 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: right here
Posts: 4,901
Thanked 4,736 Times in 813 Posts
|
A $7K ring bought retail is about $1500 second hand. Lol. The money is gone.
__________________
now what?
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 03:43 PM
|
#31 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: work
Posts: 1,451
Thanked 963 Times in 337 Posts
|
Little less than 1 year before breakup the ring was placed on her finger.
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 03:45 PM
|
#32 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: work
Posts: 1,451
Thanked 963 Times in 337 Posts
|
Thanks for the genuine replies.
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 03:59 PM
|
#33 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 22,031
Thanked 9,821 Times in 3,902 Posts
|
I believe the ring and institution of marriage is something that should be phased out with our parent's generation, if the couples are not religious.
The stats don't lie; one in two marriages will fail.
People change, and that's not always a negative thing.
Cheers OP, glad to see you want best for your child.
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 05:24 PM
|
#34 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Okanagan
Posts: 16,265
Thanked 8,911 Times in 3,872 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero I believe the ring and institution of marriage is something that should be phased out with our parent's generation, if the couples are not religious. | Marriage is a legal union, not just a religious one, and the rings never had anything to do with religion (people used to use all kinds of things). What does need to go away are the excessively expensive engagement rings, the amount of money some people spend on them is insane, especially since nobody can tell the difference.
__________________ 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC // 2007 Toyota Rav4 V6 // 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed] Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z | Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry: | | 
| | |
02-13-2017, 05:47 PM
|
#35 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: The Fruit Loops
Posts: 3,527
Thanked 7,266 Times in 1,967 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore Marriage is a legal union, not just a religious one, and the rings never had anything to do with religion (people used to use all kinds of things). What does need to go away are the excessively expensive engagement rings, the amount of money some people spend on them is insane, especially since nobody can tell the difference. | I'd like to add that the diamond industry is a big fucking scam. Diamonds are nowhere near worth what you think they are. De Beers is TELLING you what they're worth.
To the OP:
I say forget about the ring. It's just a material possession that took a huge depreciation hit. Focus on your daughter and a healthy triangular relationship between the three of you. A ring is not worth potential destructive consequences.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by GS8 When I think about ewe, I touch myself | | |
| | |
02-13-2017, 05:52 PM
|
#36 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,423
Thanked 14,760 Times in 3,870 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by E-SPEC Little less than 1 year before breakup the ring was placed on her finger. | 100% the ring goes back to you. Asked my fiancé and she said the same thing
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 05:57 PM
|
#37 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 238
Thanked 354 Times in 85 Posts
|
lol @ mofos buying engagement rings to get married (looks like in this case an engagement ring bought just to live together? lol). Way too many people fall for this garbage. I'm surprised people continue to shell this amount of money for an engagement ring and spend tens of thousands for a wedding ceremony, when these money could be meaningfully put towards something else. It's almost like a condition precedent prior to the proposal. Tell your girl to fuck off if she can't be with you without an engagement ring to flaunt it to her friends.
It's your sunk cost so just let her keep the fucking ring. In real life it's a clusterfuck to even prove who went cold feet first. She has her story and you have yours.
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 06:13 PM
|
#38 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by N.V.M. After 2 years of cohabitation, you're married in BC. End of story. | You are so wrong, I've lived it, two years means common law, there is no provision for equal division of assets in common law separation. What you paid for belongs to you and what she paid for belongs to her - she can attempt to establish an interest in your property/belongings in that she may have "maintained" these assets, but that sort of thing is usually reserved for having painted walls... not having cleaned a 60" TV on occasion.
HOWEVER, being that you have child together, you're basically married.
Edit: Note that she can claim she paid for everything you bought, in which case both parties will need to provide paper evidence of who paid for what or it will be divided equally.
Plus you can still end up on the hook for alimony, the price of which goes up in relation to the discrepancy in your age, earnings, educational level, dependants and a few other factors.
Anna if you let her drive your car for the last 7 years there is a pretty good chance the court will expect you to compensate her for a portion of the vehicle as you had previously provided a luxury to which they have became accustomed.
Point is, without kids, a couple living together for 3 years who don't own property together can have a quick and easy split - it's not like a marriage where there is a 12 month separation and an automatic division of assets @50/50% assuming it is not contested.
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
02-13-2017, 06:31 PM
|
#39 | | My homepage has been set to RS
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,362
Thanked 743 Times in 363 Posts
|
a ring is a bullshit mass media marketed event gift. so you lose anyways 
__________________ Quote:
[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 i find that at vietnamese place they cut ur hair like they cut grass
[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 do u go to vietnamese places for haircuts
| | |
| | |
02-13-2017, 07:38 PM
|
#40 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Van604
Posts: 2,745
Thanked 2,064 Times in 555 Posts
|
lol.. asked wife this questions... and she says the girl should return the ring just on morale grounds... good luck OP, but honestly you might just have dodged a bullet... imagine having this conversation after the actual marriage... will cost you a lot more than 7K i am sure....
__________________
Proud member of GRAPE Great Revscene Action Photographers Enthusiasts
AE101 Rolla 96' //Sold
RPS13 240SX 90' //STOLEN
RMS13 240SX 91' //Scrapped
RHS13 240SX 90' //Scrapped
S35 Rogue 12' //Gifted to Parents
GD 6MT Elantra 13' //Sold
CZ4A 5MT GSR Evo 08' // Totalled
Ioniq DCT 19' //Traded in
NA MX-5 5MT 97' // Sold
Prius Prime 21' //Traded in
Tesla Model 3 RWD DD
GSX-R 600 K5' Mental Therapy
Prius Prime 24' New Kids Carrier
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 08:28 PM
|
#41 | | what manner of phaggotry is this
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kelownafornia
Posts: 18,285
Thanked 5,473 Times in 1,814 Posts
|
i wonder if everyone saying rings are bullshit are single on here lol.
also for what its worth i asked my wife. she said no question the ring goes back to the guy if you didnt make it to the wedding
__________________
STRENGTHaesthetics | |
| | |
02-13-2017, 09:19 PM
|
#42 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Langley
Posts: 1,049
Thanked 2,282 Times in 489 Posts
|
If you guys have come to a mutual agreement to split it that's a homerun for you I'd say. Seeing as you were together so long usually I'd say ur out of luck; sell it and put it towards ur daughter, move on happily as you can. Jasonturbo nailed down the legal aspects to a tee, your way ahead to keep it happy and a peaceful transition
__________________
'92 300ZX Twin Turbo (Current)
‘19 MDX A-Spec (milf wagon)
'04 330i ZHP (ZAM) (sold)
'10 E92 M3 (sold)
'10 ZDX (sold)
'10 STI (sold)
'08 Mazdaspeed 3 (sold)
'04 RSX (sold)
'92 300ZX (sold)
‘94 Ford Probe GT (sold)
| |
| | |
02-13-2017, 09:32 PM
|
#43 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
|
Oh yeah opening your daughter's bank account / trust fund for education is a great idea, lock it up til she graduates high school.
Here's a quote from Einstein “The most powerful force in the universe is compound interest”
If you ex refuses to give money to your daughter's education, I would tell lawyer how much of horrible mother she is. Can't even sell the ring for her own child, she shouldn't have the custody.
| |
| | |
02-14-2017, 12:24 AM
|
#44 | | Throw yo paws in da air!
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: State of Trance
Posts: 5,125
Thanked 2,778 Times in 956 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo You are so wrong, I've lived it, two years means common law, there is no provision for equal division of assets in common law separation. What you paid for belongs to you and what she paid for belongs to her | HA! tell that to my uncle's ex wife who took half his shit and retirement savings  and lets not forget shes the one who got caught cheating and didnt spend a single dime
__________________
Proud member of GRAPE Great Revscene Action Photography Enthusiasts
2008 Infiniti M45X - Y50 (Current)
2000 Honda Prelude SH (Sold)
1995 Dodge Spirit (Sold)
1998 Nissan Maxima SE (Sold)
1996 Honda Prelude SR-V (Sold) | |
| | |
02-14-2017, 04:52 AM
|
#45 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by XplicitLuder HA! tell that to my uncle's ex wife who took half his shit and retirement savings and lets not forget shes the one who got caught cheating and didnt spend a single dime | "Ex Wife" would not suggest a common law relationship, however, after say 20+ years of common law the court will most certainly view you as married.
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
02-14-2017, 05:26 AM
|
#46 | | Old School RS
Join Date: May 2004 Location: Port Moody
Posts: 4,556
Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,202 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Hehe An engagement ring by definition of law is a conditional gift. If the purpose/condition was not met, you are entitled to get it back. | Are you a lawyer? I have absolutely never heard of a "conditional gift" (as opposed to a contract with conditions) and I somewhat suspect that even if such a thing existed, the courts would not agree that becoming married is a contractual obligation to be engaged.
In any event, let's stay away from presenting things as legal fact without backing it up with some reliable sources, to help prevent misinformation from being spread as "definitely fact".
Mark
__________________
I'm old now - boring street cars and sweet race cars. | |
| | |
02-14-2017, 06:03 AM
|
#47 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BC
Posts: 3,558
Thanked 3,814 Times in 957 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by RRxtar i wonder if everyone saying rings are bullshit are single on here lol.
also for what its worth i asked my wife. she said no question the ring goes back to the guy if you didnt make it to the wedding | Add me to the list who thinks the ring is bullshit. I'm happily married with two kids. We spent the $ towards an exotic honeymoon, which was fantastic and created long lasting memories.
I often wonder if those who are buying the engagement ring genuinely ask themselves why they are spending that money. Ultimately it really comes down to the fact that it's the marketing that added any value to this ring.
| |
| | |
02-14-2017, 06:35 AM
|
#48 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,423
Thanked 14,760 Times in 3,870 Posts
|
That discussion should be left for a different thread.
| |
| | |
02-14-2017, 07:18 AM
|
#49 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
Join Date: May 2002 Location: van
Posts: 3,412
Thanked 494 Times in 214 Posts
|
Sorry to hear what you are going through OP, especially with a child together.
IMO, I would just want to keep the mother of my kid(s) happy. I would not want kid(s) growing up with a mom who has hate for me and would feed all this negativity to my kid(s) about me.
| |
| | |
02-14-2017, 07:27 AM
|
#50 | | SFICC-03*
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: richmond
Posts: 8,061
Thanked 2,454 Times in 987 Posts
|
50/50 means you're fighting over a really petty sum considering the resale value.
just let it go and have one less thing to strain the relationship over. Quote:
Originally Posted by RRxtar i wonder if everyone saying rings are bullshit are single on here lol. | i don't really care much about stuff like that, and neither does my SO.
| |
| | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
| | |
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:04 AM.
|
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
