Newer cars or older cars?

[GS8]

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Was watching this video and it got me thinking about what most people would prefer. Newer cars with gadgets and safety features or older cars with more mechanicals and easier maintenance?

[Jmac]

Nanny aids (aside from ABS) and touchscreens drive me insane.

This fucking commercial demonstrates everything that is wrong with cars these days.

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Don't bother paying attention to anything because the car will prevent you from driving your kids down a ravine and running over the neighbour's kid.

[bcuzracecarz]

Depends what the cutoff is for new vs old. Love the feel of an old manual lightweight car (ITR, 300ZX, etc.). However, give me a 911R or A GT4 and I'll be laughing

[jasonturbo]

People think they prefer older cars - it's the nostalgic romance.

Put into context, most people do not want to live with an older car as daily... sure I would love a nice clean Porsche 964TT, but I sure as fuck would prefer a 991.2 GT3 if I had to drive it on a regular basis.

New cars are better cars, and I love old cars just as much as the next guy.

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Originally Posted by GS8

Newer cars with gadgets and safety features or older cars with more mechanicals and easier maintenance?

I'll take the crumple zones and airbags, but all the overcomplicated modern electrical nonsense can piss off, especially the steering and braking systems. Call me old fashioned but I don't like the idea of not having a physical link to the steering and brakes.

[Indy]

I think context is important.

For a weekend/fun car I'd love an old car. Something simple, something direct, something that can be tinkered with and be "raw".

But if i'm talking about my daily driver, I'd have to go new. The abuse on my "old" car would make me hate it as I broke down on the side of the road every once in a while. The comfort of modern electronics and aids (back up camera, blind spot detection) are amenities that are nice to have in day to day life.

That being said, I think that there is a lot of "scary" tech out there. The idea that my car will brake by itself in an emergency is actually scary to me. To not be in control of this 4000lb brick all the time is unnerving.

[RRxtar]

Depends. My daily driver and personal work truck is a brand new 2017 $90k f350 with all the bells and whistles. My favorite work truck is an old f350 7.3L. My hobby is a jeep tj manual with no nannies. And I wanty wife to buy an mdx


I'd have a hell of a hard time buying an old Porsche over a new one, but my dream car is a 911R which is basically a brand new modern throwback.

[hud 91gt]

I'd love the safety features of a new car, but I don't need the gadgetry. I have an '04 TSX as a daily and half the time I want an even older "shit box" to daily(it's too nice for me) . I also have an old car which is a pita sometimes..... So... As a daily give me a basic modern car. But I'm a basic bitch.... Or is that not basic?

[donk.]

this is like comparing new girls vs old girls

you always miss the freak with daddy issues, but you also enjoy a new piece of ass.

[!LittleDragon]

10 years ago, I would've said old but I gotta go with new. In 2011, I bought my first new car, a 2.0T Sonata. Before that, I drove a few MR2 Turbos for 13 years. When I got the Sonata, I thought I'd give my MR2 a break and use it for the weekend/summer... I've driven it like 6 times since. Realized I just wasn't into that kind of car anymore...

The warranty expired on the Sonata last year, traded it in for a 2015 V8 Genesis and I haven't driven the MR2 since. The Toyota is old, it rattles, bounces too much and honestly, it's slow. The barge is at least a full second faster to 100 than a fresh out of the factory MR2T.

More than likely going to trade this car in when the warranty is up as well. Old cars are easier to fix for sure but I was always fixing something on the old car. There's a lot of my time saved from not having to fix your car. I haven't even been under my Hyundais.

[GS8]

Good points so far.

For someone like me who has both financed a newer car and bought older cars with cash, I'll probably stick with the latter. I guess I just stopped caring about car loans and preferred to use the saved money for maintenance items.

I remember cringing when I saw that Hyundai commercial. Also cringed at Nisaan's 'conquer winter' commercials. Hell, I cringe at most car commercials now. They seem to actually encourage shitty driving which is evident in all the dash cam footage I see. We're getting closer and closer to Russian Standards.

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Originally Posted by GS8

I remember cringing when I saw that Hyundai commercial. Also cringed at Nisaan's 'conquer winter' commercials. Hell, I cringe at most car commercials now. They seem to actually encourage shitty driving which is evident in all the dash cam footage I see. We're getting closer and closer to Russian Standards.

Have you seen some of the crap Subaru comes out with? They keep yammering on about how they're unstoppable in the winter, but then they're sold with junk tires. Of course the average buyer is too stupid to understand tire basics but they can add, so they assume more is better and clog up the roads with their incompetence-mobiles.

[GabAlmighty]

I prefer old cars. But as a daily having a new car has it's perks, i'm biased as I live in a harsh environment so having a brand new machine that is reliable and under warranty trumps all.

But back home in the city where everything was nearby and the environment I lived in was tame. I loved cruising around in my old cars so much more

I mean my Ram is cool cuz it's got a big v8... But nothing puts a smile on my face like my corolla does; which I haven't seen in 5 months because it's buried under snow haha

[white rocket]

It's all relative. Daily driving a gutted K20 EG with a 2-way clutch diff in rush hour is fucking balls but taking your new Hyundai Sonata to the track for a lapping day is equally ball sucking. It's all relative.

That's why most of us have a older weekend tinker car and a newer daily.

[shawn_mian]

I love driving a new car. But with all the new technology​ that cars have long time ownership after warranty will probably be alot more in terms of maintenance and things breaking then the cars from the 80's- early 2000's. I love driving my 2016 rx350 but can only imagine how much it would cost if one of the LED headlights burnt out or the blind spot monitor stopped working. But my "old" school 2002 Acura on the other hand will be a keeper for as long as I can drive.

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[vantrip]

Seems like a lot of this is nitpicking and too lazy to change the setting. Also, people are plunking down serious coin for a brand new car so why not take the time to actually learn and test drive the car? There is so much more information available online now this should be pretty straight forward.

That being said both older and newer cars have there pros and cons, and just like white rocket stated, gear heads usually have a new car to daily and a older weekend fun car.

[GS8]

Yeah my main criteria for older yet still DD'able car would be something that still has an active parts network. Where parts can still be obtained at a yard or online and easily swapped in by a shade tree or real mechanic.

Maybe I'm just spoiled because my car rides on a platform older than the USA.

[Timpo]

Same as mechanics too. They absolutely hate new cars because they don't know how to work on them.

Some mechanics do get fascinated because of new technology.
The younger generations with more competent brains will prefer newer cars.

This is same as motorcycles too.
I was looking at this brand new 2015 ZX6R that was on sale but I didn't want to buy it because it was a non-ABS version.
The old sales guy told me that if you know how to ride you don't need ABS because back in good old days nobody had ABS, traction control, electronic suspension, blah blah blah blah.....

A lot of people hate GT-R because of state of the art technology that is overly complicated for them. Whereas some people get fascinated by that.

[SpeedStars]

I feel like the design of cars (before the mid 2000s) will never be the same again. What goes into the design now a days consists of having focus groups and going through a board of directors just to see what would "sell". Gone are the days where cars are raw and straight from the eyes of the designer.

I guess that's why 90% of new cars share design cues with each other

[ilvtofu]

Radar guided cruise control, backup/360 cameras, and proximity keys are sooooooo nice

[underscore]

Originally Posted by ilvtofu

Radar guided cruise control

So people can pay even less attention while driving? Screw that.

[Great68]

New cars for daily driving dependability and comfort.

Old cars for weekend fun.

[Qmx323]

I'll take an old car. Until I can afford a nice new car.

Skip all the blind spot/forward collision/whatever bullshit though.

Your eyes are supposed to be those things. Not all these nanny electronics that make people think they can text while they drive.

[Liquid_o2]

I love the look of older cars. But I don't think I can live without heated seats and bluetooth and a backup camera anymore.

If you could give me a 1991 Integra that was built today with those features, oh I would be so all over that

[coneZONE]

I like old cars maybe up to mid-2000s max.
In my opinion, there are too many nanny features like blind spot, backup sensors, cameras, radar, auto brakes, autopilot etc. For me, that defeats the purpose of driving anymore. It definitely requires skill, intelligence, and common sense to operate a vehicle.

I mean, I'm all for backup cameras and sensors for larger vehicles that legit have blind spots or are hard to judge the length of the vehicle. Ya don't need it for small passenger vehicles. Then again, with all the vehicle designs with the windows getting smaller and smaller, maybe you do need them...