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how about use the damn money and put some god damn reflectors on our road?
Its absolutely mind boggling driving down here, when we get 9 months of rain thru out the year. You take a drive down to seattle, and you will notice they get spammed with reflectors and reflective lines.
Go figure
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worst time was when there was a lot of hwy construction near the old port mann and the lines were all over the place. they had temporary lines, old lines, and barriers that all added to the confusion, and to top it off a few sharp turns on the highway! when it rained i can't tell you how many times i saw cars almost come to a complete stop because they were heading for the barriers.
how about use the damn money and put some god damn reflectors on our road?
Are you really suggesting fixing slightly imperfect roads should be a priority over humanitarian efforts? You do realize these are national funds right? Do you think people from Ontario would be keen on paying to fix roads in BC? And have you seen the cost of roadwork? 840M won't get you very much.
If you want to combine humanitarian aid and roadwork then send the money to Saskatchewan, their roads look like they're from some third world country that just got bombed.
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But how about we spend the money on hospital facilities, roads (which unfortunately are owned by Translink), police departments, city funding, firefighters, school funding, community centres?
Would you feed somebody else's kids before you fed yours?
But how about we spend the money on hospital facilities, roads (which unfortunately are owned by Translink), police departments, city funding, firefighters, school funding, community centres?
Would you feed somebody else's kids before you fed yours?
If the other kid is starving and about to fucking die, then yes I would feed there kid first. WTF. What you're not getting is that my kid is doing okay while there kids Haven't eaten for weeks. Jesus Christ
Edit - a lot of you guys really need to open your eyes a bit here. You are taking for granted everything in your life right now. Tomorrow you wake up, it's sunny (or raining),, you eat breakfast, go to work, hang out with friends after, sleep under a roof in your comfy bed that has clean water, heat and electricty.
They wake up most likely having a bomb dropping through there roof or chemicals in the air killing you and all your family members..
Seriously, the west should stop sticking their nose into Syria like they own damn world. Whatever is happening in that part of the country has nothing to do with us. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad and sympathetic for those people, but it's a problem nobody can solve.
How much you wanna bet that that $840 million will not solve a damn thing. In the next 5 - 10 years, we'll still see shit happening over there. Even if it's not in Syria, something else, somewhere else, will start.
Aside from that, there is roughly 35 million people in all of Canada. We surely can use a million or two each out of that $840, and they will still have money left over for other shit.
I don't know what the fuck this country is coming to.
Seriously, the west should stop sticking their nose into Syria like they own damn world. Whatever is happening in that part of the country has nothing to do with us. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad and sympathetic for those people, but it's a problem nobody can solve.
How much you wanna bet that that $840 million will not solve a damn thing. In the next 5 - 10 years, we'll still see shit happening over there. Even if it's not in Syria, something else, somewhere else, will start.
Aside from that, there is roughly 35 million people in all of Canada. We surely can use a million or two each out of that $840, and they will still have money left over for other shit.
I don't know what the fuck this country is coming to.
We currently have the worst refugee crisis in human history -- yes worse than the aftermath of WW2. If the west doesn't help stabilize Syria which contributes a lot to the refugee crisis then expect more and more refugees flooding into western countries in the next decade.
Also, not that it matters but things like this is why when Canadians travel abroad we're always met with kindness and respect.
Prob is Syria can't be fixed with just money. Money is only going to complicate things even further. There are too many players involved and to many cultural/ethnic division in the area.
We currently have the worst refugee crisis in human history -- yes worse than the aftermath of WW2. If the west doesn't help stabilize Syria which contributes a lot to the refugee crisis then expect more and more refugees flooding into western countries in the next decade.
Also, not that it matters but things like this is why when Canadians travel abroad we're always met with kindness and respect.
Sadly, it's most likely that the nationalists will never leave North America.
We currently have the worst refugee crisis in human history -- yes worse than the aftermath of WW2. If the west doesn't help stabilize Syria which contributes a lot to the refugee crisis then expect more and more refugees flooding into western countries in the next decade.
Also, not that it matters but things like this is why when Canadians travel abroad we're always met with kindness and respect.
i'd be all for helping to stabilize syria if we didn't have a "UN Ally" backing the Assad regime in the Russian Federation.
Give 800 million to Syria, start rebuilding infrastructure and support facilities, have Russian backed fighters destroy/dismantle infrastructure we paid for.
I think we should focus on Political ties and actually addressing the root of the problem as opposed to sending funds, which frankly, who knows where they will end up.
It's like Haiti after the earthquake, how much money was sent there, for what? people are still living in shacks and tents years later, Red Cross raised half a billion dollars and built nothing. In general people are no better off than months after towns were reduced to rubble.
Syria is no different, going to prop up a pile of rubble for a few years more.
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Prob is Syria can't be fixed with just money. Money is only going to complicate things even further. There are too many players involved and to many cultural/ethnic division in the area.
You guys do realise most of that money is used to hire Canadians and buy Canadian supplies like food etc to help over there right? eg people with Foreign Affairs get hazard pay etc. Also supplies like bandages etc are procured here and shipped there. That's where the 840million figure comes to. It is not like they are dropping buckets of cash from the air.
Most of the money are spent here and the logistics to ship over there. Consider it is a war zone.
for one thing how does someone come up with the number of $840 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS? Why so much? how does this number even been thought of? What I am trying to say is why couldn't it be $10 mill, or $30 heck if you are already at $840 mill why not just give them 1billion I mean your practically already there....fuck trudeau!
Because sending help to war zone is expensive..per person you can easily run $1000+ / hour (think again hazard pay and security). A medivac can easily end up $100k each. Just an ER doctor who accompany a patient on a medivac flight from SEA to YVR get pay thousands of $ per hour. Then you have practical things like decontamination gear etc.
Honestly the cost doesn't faze me, however I am curious how they can get the help there without causing problems or caught in the cross fire. Most of the money has already been squirreled away already, it is not like we can get $840mill to celebrate our 150anniversay or something.
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for one thing how does someone come up with the number of $840 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS? Why so much? how does this number even been thought of? What I am trying to say is why couldn't it be $10 mill, or $30 heck if you are already at $840 mill why not just give them 1billion I mean your practically already there....fuck trudeau!
Helping directly has an immediate effect to the immediate problem of starvation, homelessness due to their house being in rubbles, trying to survive in a war zone, and to top it off, having to worry about their skin being blistered off, suffocating from their lungs being inflamed because their government doesn't give a fuck.
So, the next time you want to say Canada first, compare what you got now, to what they're living through. But sure, our hospitals could be better with some millions. At least we got a hospital.
That 840 million in terms of labour and product could just as well give Canada a leg up on our high costs of health care, and social programs. Throwing money at those problems isn't the solution. It's not funds those programs are lacking, it's efficiency. Canada already pays one of the most highest costs in health care and pharmaceuticals. That's another discussion though.
As opposed to using that 840 million for aid to those we can help right now, and would mean much more.
i'd be all for helping to stabilize syria if we didn't have a "UN Ally" backing the Assad regime in the Russian Federation.
Give 800 million to Syria, start rebuilding infrastructure and support facilities, have Russian backed fighters destroy/dismantle infrastructure we paid for.
I think we should focus on Political ties and actually addressing the root of the problem as opposed to sending funds, which frankly, who knows where they will end up.
It's like Haiti after the earthquake, how much money was sent there, for what? people are still living in shacks and tents years later, Red Cross raised half a billion dollars and built nothing. In general people are no better off than months after towns were reduced to rubble.
Syria is no different, going to prop up a pile of rubble for a few years more.
I think you're confused on what the UN is. Just because Russia is a member of the UN does not mean we're their "ally". We have a number of ongoing sanctions against Russia mainly due to Crimea and so does America.
However I understand that to solve the Syrian crisis you have to solve the Russian/Assad problem. But that's besides the point, this 800 million is to save lives not to solve a war. Also we're not sending $800 million in cash...it's going to be in Canadian equipment and personnel and likely some cash...
Because sending help to war zone is expensive..per person you can easily run $1000+ / hour (think again hazard pay and security). A medivac can easily end up $100k each. Just an ER doctor who accompany a patient on a medivac flight from SEA to YVR get pay thousands of $ per hour. Then you have practical things like decontamination gear etc.
Honestly the cost doesn't faze me, however I am curious how they can get the help there without causing problems or caught in the cross fire. Most of the money has already been squirreled away already, it is not like we can get $840mill to celebrate our 150anniversay or something.
How true is this 1000+ an hour wage?
I'm willing to goto Syria on behalf of Canada for this amount of money. LOL.
I think they get help there by securing military zones for flights. That's my opinion though, it's based on zero fact. I'll let you know if I ever end up there.
Fuck this leftist, bleeding heart of mine though. Thank god I'm not the one in power.
Also, I think the reflectors on the road thing is a provincial funding problem. However, if the feds matched funds, like they did for public transit, then it would make it a lot of a heck easier to get done.
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