REVscene Automotive Forum

REVscene Automotive Forum (https://www.revscene.net/forums/)
-   Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events (https://www.revscene.net/forums/vancouver-off-topic-current-events_50/)
-   -   United Airlines incident - overbooked and forcing paying passengers OFF the plane (https://www.revscene.net/forums/712156-united-airlines-incident-overbooked-forcing-paying-passengers-off-plane.html)

flagella 04-14-2017 03:56 AM

To those who repeatedly bring out contract to justify this, you are a fucking idiot and I hope your work doesn't consist of any responsibilities that impact people's life.

United learned the lesson the hard way, that the court of public opinion will buttfuck you hard if your actions are unreasonable, even if they were allowed to remove the passenger under contract of carriage.

Speed2K 04-14-2017 10:50 AM

Lol, yeah, not sure why people are still defending United when their CEO admitted they indeed, made a mistake.

twitchyzero 04-14-2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 8835446)
Stop reading into the media's propaganda and look into real information.

what propaganda? What does the media gain from taking down one the biggest airlines?

If anything, media has been digging up dirt on the physician. As if the security and airline knew about his past that influenced how he was treated as a passenger.

twitchyzero 04-14-2017 11:58 AM

looks like people are trying to cash in on United being in the spotlight haha

United Airlines staff 'forced frail grandma, 94, out of £2,800 Business seat into Economy for 16-hour flight'

Traum 04-14-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8835556)
what propaganda? What does the media gain from taking down one the biggest airlines?

If anything, media has been digging up dirt on the physician. As if the security and airline knew about his past that influenced how he was treated as a passenger.

It's the media. They crave for and thrive on this stuff. It's in their nature.

type-j 04-14-2017 03:34 PM

Looks like delta increased their offer for passenger's who give up their seat. $10,000! [emoji54]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/delta-o...tion-1.4071453

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

threezero 04-14-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8835556)
what propaganda? What does the media gain from taking down one the biggest airlines?

If anything, media has been digging up dirt on the physician. As if the security and airline knew about his past that influenced how he was treated as a passenger.

clicks, view, more clicks, more views

to be fair the media is digging up dirt from both side of the story

FerrariEnzo 04-14-2017 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by type-j (Post 8835605)
Looks like delta increased their offer for passenger's who give up their seat. $10,000! [emoji54]

Delta will offer up to $9,950 to flyers who give up seats, United changes its policy - World - CBC News

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Delta said gate agents can offer up to $2,000, up from a previous maximum of $800, and supervisors can offer up to $9,950, up from $1,350.

hchang 04-20-2017 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagella (Post 8835515)
To those who repeatedly bring out contract to justify this, you are a fucking idiot and I hope your work doesn't consist of any responsibilities that impact people's life.

United learned the lesson the hard way, that the court of public opinion will buttfuck you hard if your actions are unreasonable, even if they were allowed to remove the passenger under contract of carriage.

I'm sorry but whenever you enter a place of business, they have the right to refuse service. They have a right to tell you to leave their property.

McDonalds can kick you out if you throw a tantrum because you didn't get enough fries.

Walmart can kick you out if you try to return the tampons you bought because they didn't fix you being a little bitch.

A bar can kick you out for whatever reason they come up with, if you don't leave on your own free will, the bouncers will forcibly remove you, if you cause more grief, the police will be called and come for your ass.

You're at the mercy of wherever you CHOSE to go to spend money. Is that right? I don't know, but it is what it is.

Ferra 04-21-2017 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8836908)
I'm sorry but whenever you enter a place of business, they have the right to refuse service. They have a right to tell you to leave their property.

McDonalds can kick you out if you throw a tantrum because you didn't get enough fries.

Walmart can kick you out if you try to return the tampons you bought because they didn't fix you being a little bitch.

A bar can kick you out for whatever reason they come up with, if you don't leave on your own free will, the bouncers will forcibly remove you, if you cause more grief, the police will be called and come for your ass.

You're at the mercy of wherever you CHOSE to go to spend money. Is that right? I don't know, but it is what it is.

You don't get it do you?
Just because something is legal doesn't make it right...

hchang 04-21-2017 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferra (Post 8836992)
You don't get it do you?
Just because something is legal doesn't make it right...

I understand that part, but at some point in life you have to grow up and realize how the world works, and the world does not revolve around YOU. If you miss your flight you're the only one inconvenienced, tough luck. Had they kept their employees back, it would've caused flight delays at the airplanes they were supposed to go attend to, inconveniencing more than just YOU. Laws and regulations are put into place with the right intentions in mind, to protect people, to make the earth rotate.

It is what it fucking is, not a damn thing we can do to change that.

If it hurts your feelings when something doesn't go your way..... Get a stronger backbone or develop thicker skin. How did you even make it this far in life??

syee 04-21-2017 05:56 PM

They have a right to refuse service - it's just how they carried out that refusal which is the problem.

Having cops drag people out kicking and screaming isn't the way to do it, especially when the passenger posed no physical threat.

hchang 04-21-2017 06:51 PM

He ran back onto the plane after being removed.

If you resist arrest do you think police officers will be kind to you?

They'll throw you on the ground for not complying, twist your arm, break your fingers. You're at their mercy at that point.

If you're given a lawful order, do it.

K.eep
I.t
S.imple
S.tupid

Jmac 04-21-2017 07:20 PM

Life moves fast
https://www.revscene.net/forums/6213...-attitude.html

hchang 04-21-2017 07:39 PM

^ Yup. Something called maturing. Don't worry it'll happen to you someday too.

Ch28 04-21-2017 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8837126)
^ Yup. Something called maturing. Don't worry it'll happen to you someday too.

http://i.imgur.com/Jr5eBqH.gif

IMASA 04-21-2017 08:51 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/RL0xU1daTlMoE/giphy.gif


EDIT: Damn, too soon.

Looks like another incident with airlines hitting passengers on an AA flight.

UA: We fucked up
AA: Hold my beer

American Airlines employee challenges passenger to FIGHT | Daily Mail Online

twitchyzero 04-21-2017 11:59 PM

'it is what it is'

might just be the most vapid phrase of all time

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...EV7axmiYAgFX3e

Great68 04-22-2017 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8837119)
He ran back onto the plane after being removed.

If you resist arrest do you think police officers will be kind to you?

They'll throw you on the ground for not complying, twist your arm, break your fingers. You're at their mercy at that point.

If you're given a lawful order, do it.

K.eep
I.t
S.imple
S.tupid

Why the fuck are you still arguing?

UA admitted they fucked up, apologized and raised their compensation levels to 10K. Passengers win, case over.

bigzz786786 04-22-2017 10:28 AM

I was already booked with UA from yvr to vegas before this all happened, connected to san Fransisco. My gf and i jist arrived back from vegas on monday (well tuesday morning).

Thursday we wanted to take the evening flight after work, we get there, our plane is 2 hours delayed due to "poor weather" and "ground traffic" so we miss our connecting flight to vegas. When we get close we still have to circle for 40 minutes before we land. When we landed, it wasnt even raining a lot, it was light rain compared to Vancouver weather, parts of the runway was dryish.

Then when we get into the airport, they tell us that they have rebooked our flights "complimentary" for tomorrow at 8am. They said they were not going to comp a hotel room since its not there fault and that we should just sleep in the airport somewhere. We asked for the UA customer service desk, they said its through security. There were no employees in the entire fucking airport to voice our concerns after midnight. So now i was calling the airline company; they said they dont handle hotel bookings and that it has to be done at the airport, basically im shit out of luck until an emplyee comes in at 5am. Then i asked them to confirm the flight for 8am departure. They said our tickets are not confirmed and that we are on standby only!!!! Wtf! So i demanded them to confirm our seats which we seemed to be the only ones who actually did. We saw the people from our flight that were going to vegas, they said they were told to be on standby​ until the airline has some available seats over the next few flights out.

When it was time to board, everyone got in, and they were doing some maintenance work which delayed us 40 mins. Then they told us the flight has to be cancelled cause the plane is grounded for good. Now 1 hour later theres an announcement that another plane is being brought in for us at a different gate. That plane takes another 45 minutes, then another 30 minutes till we finally take off. By the time we got to the hotel it was 2pm the next day.


Unfortunately on the way back we were stuck with UA and again connecting at san Fransisco to yvr 4pm flight with a 4 hour layover. The plane was delayed 2.5 hours, then we get to san Fransisco and waiting for the plane to yvr was delayed another hour; This flight was over fucking booked and 3 people had to forfeit there seats!! Not for employees this time, just that they simply overbooked with too many people!!!!. Anyway, it was 1:30am by the time we got home.

After all the ordeal, UA said nothing, no apology, no compensation, nothing!

From now on, i dont care about cheapest flight. I read somewhere that UA flights connecting through san Francisco are delayed over 60% of the time!

Mikoyan 04-22-2017 02:35 PM

SFO weather delays are usually fog related I believe.

dark0821 04-22-2017 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigzz786786 (Post 8837227)
I was already booked with UA from yvr to vegas before this all happened, connected to san Fransisco. My gf and i jist arrived back from vegas on monday (well tuesday morning).

Thursday we wanted to take the evening flight after work, we get there, our plane is 2 hours delayed due to "poor weather" and "ground traffic" so we miss our connecting flight to vegas. When we get close we still have to circle for 40 minutes before we land. When we landed, it wasnt even raining a lot, it was light rain compared to Vancouver weather, parts of the runway was dryish.

Then when we get into the airport, they tell us that they have rebooked our flights "complimentary" for tomorrow at 8am. They said they were not going to comp a hotel room since its not there fault and that we should just sleep in the airport somewhere. We asked for the UA customer service desk, they said its through security. There were no employees in the entire fucking airport to voice our concerns after midnight. So now i was calling the airline company; they said they dont handle hotel bookings and that it has to be done at the airport, basically im shit out of luck until an emplyee comes in at 5am. Then i asked them to confirm the flight for 8am departure. They said our tickets are not confirmed and that we are on standby only!!!! Wtf! So i demanded them to confirm our seats which we seemed to be the only ones who actually did. We saw the people from our flight that were going to vegas, they said they were told to be on standby​ until the airline has some available seats over the next few flights out.

When it was time to board, everyone got in, and they were doing some maintenance work which delayed us 40 mins. Then they told us the flight has to be cancelled cause the plane is grounded for good. Now 1 hour later theres an announcement that another plane is being brought in for us at a different gate. That plane takes another 45 minutes, then another 30 minutes till we finally take off. By the time we got to the hotel it was 2pm the next day.


Unfortunately on the way back we were stuck with UA and again connecting at san Fransisco to yvr 4pm flight with a 4 hour layover. The plane was delayed 2.5 hours, then we get to san Fransisco and waiting for the plane to yvr was delayed another hour; This flight was over fucking booked and 3 people had to forfeit there seats!! Not for employees this time, just that they simply overbooked with too many people!!!!. Anyway, it was 1:30am by the time we got home.

After all the ordeal, UA said nothing, no apology, no compensation, nothing!

From now on, i dont care about cheapest flight. I read somewhere that UA flights connecting through san Francisco are delayed over 60% of the time!


holy shit... damn, definitely going to think twice before booking any flights that has a connection flight... god damn...

syee 04-22-2017 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark0821 (Post 8837275)
holy shit... damn, definitely going to think twice before booking any flights that has a connection flight... god damn...

Sometimes you just don't have a choice though. Next time you pick flights, see which airline has a hub at your destination. You're more likely to get a direct flight that way, or at the very least, there's more planes available if there's any issues with your aircraft. Also, if you've got connections, try book your flights for a morning departure as early as you can. Delays will happen throughout the day, and with the rate at which planes are turned over for their next flight, the delays just accumulate.

Weather delays suck, but those aren't airline specific. Any airline coming into the airport is going to run into the same delays. bigzz situation sucks -
not to let UA off the hook, but don't most credit cards offer some sort of trip delay/cancellation insurance that would apply in this case? You could get a hotel and have the cc reimburse it.

I personally haven't had very many bad experiences with UA - and I do fly them a majority of the time since most of the time, I'm flying to one of their hub cities. I've had worse experiences with the low cost airlines (Allegiant, Sunwing)

pastarocket 04-22-2017 04:37 PM

Wow, what the hell is happening with the U.S. aviation industry??

Flight attendant allegedly hits a female passenger with a baby stroller, as he takes away the item in a violent manner before takeoff.

Then another passenger confronts the flight attendant. It almost becomes Flight Club in the economy seats section of the AA flight. :heckno:

Does World Star Hip Hop sponsor United Airlines and AA? :lawl: World Star! World Star!


twitchyzero 04-22-2017 06:31 PM

just fly non-stop to vegas
not worth the hassle flying Allegiant or connecting in SFO


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net