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StylinRed 06-18-2017 10:19 PM

1 dead now from those hit

I have to agree with twitchy, I'm travelling in the next couple weeks and London is not on the top of my list

whitev70r 06-19-2017 08:29 AM

Kudos to the iman of the mosque ... he kept things calm by holding members of the mosque at bay and letting the officials deal with the attacker instead of vigilante justice.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ect/103004052/
Witness Hussain Ali, 28, told the Press Association that "the leader of the mosque said 'You do not touch him.'

will068 06-19-2017 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8847310)
Kudos to the iman of the mosque ... he kept things calm by holding members of the mosque at bay and letting the officials deal with the attacker instead of vigilante justice.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ect/103004052/
Witness Hussain Ali, 28, told the Press Association that "the leader of the mosque said 'You do not touch him.'

Glad the Mayor said that the suspect is a terrorist.

Manic! 06-19-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8847232)
Finsbury Park Mosque: 'Several hurt' as van hits pedestrians - BBC News



I can't think of another place that's have had more terrorist hits than cities in the UK this year

Billions spent on stopping terrorists yet it was a simple fire that killed the most amount of people in London. Something that could have been easily prevented. People including you are worrying about the wrong things.

Mr.Money 06-19-2017 11:27 AM

i heard there was more husbands killing they're wifes every year in the uk than any terrorist attack has,its just news reports love feeding fear into people.
also makes me question the safety standards of the up on buildings....did they not have water sprinklers in the entire thing?...no steel escape stairs outside?..hmm.

twitchyzero 06-19-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8847325)
Billions spent on stopping terrorists yet it was a simple fire that killed the most amount of people in London. Something that could have been easily prevented. People including you are worrying about the wrong things.

it's very unfortunate and I'm glad there will be stricter building/safety codes to come from it...but fires and buildings don't discriminate

accident vs incident....shit happens vs premeditated strikes

the hatred towards the West is festering into a reoccurring problem in England moreso than any other NATO nation (even if the latest case isn't the best example)

Manic! 06-19-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8847383)
it's very unfortunate and I'm glad there will be stricter building/safety codes to come from it...but fires and buildings don't discriminate

accident vs incident....shit happens vs premeditated strikes

the hatred towards the West is festering into a reoccurring problem in England moreso than any other NATO nation (even if the latest case isn't the best example)

Bombs also don't discriminate. Almost every country has problems but you are still way safer going to England than many other countries or continents. If you want to live your being scared all the time that's your problem.

twitchyzero 06-19-2017 04:53 PM

i count myself as being very fortunate to see almost a dozen countries this year
so i'm more than okay with avoiding volatile places for the next little while

look at the risk level and security tabs for Turkey...a coup and 16 attacks last year put a 40% dent to their tourism...still in a state of emergency (although I was in France for a week which continues into their second year of aSoE)

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/turkey

here's the one on UK

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There is no nationwide advisory in effect for the United Kingdom. However, you should exercise a high degree of caution due to the threat of terrorism.

Terrorism

There is a threat of terrorism. Since March 22, 2017, separate attacks, causing multiple deaths and injuries, have taken place, two in London and one in Manchester. The attacks have been indiscriminate and have targeted public areas and entertainment venues.

Further attacks are likely. Targets could include government buildings, places of worship, schools, transportation hubs and public areas such as tourist attractions, restaurants, bars, coffee shops, shopping centres, markets, hotels, and sites frequented by foreigners. Be aware of your surroundings at all times in public places.

The Government of the United Kingdom maintains a public alert system on terrorism:

The level of threat to the U.K. from international terrorism is at "severe", meaning that an attack is highly likely.
The level of threat to Northern Ireland from domestic terrorism is at "severe".
The level of threat to Great Britain from Northern Ireland-related terrorism is at "substantial", meaning there is a strong possibility of an attack.
Visit the British Home Office’s Terrorism and national emergencies page for details and updates on current threat levels.
https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-kingdom

Manic! 06-19-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8847408)
i count myself as being very fortunate to see almost a dozen countries this year
so i'm more than okay with avoiding volatile places for the next little while

look at the risk level and security tabs for Turkey...a coup and 16 attacks last year put a 40% dent to their tourism...still in a state of emergency (although I was in France for a week which continues into their second year of aSoE)

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/turkey

here's the one on UK



https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-kingdom

The level of threat to Northern Ireland from domestic terrorism is at "severe".

That has been the case for decades. Does that mean no one should ever visit Northern Ireland?

I would like you to list some of the countries you have visited because I bet you a number of them are more dangerous than London England.

CharlesInCharge 06-19-2017 05:57 PM

The Islamophobes in this thread, like the first post by Bouncing Bettys, are the peoples enemy for perpetuating the Boogeyman narrative propaganda when the Zionist (NWO w isreal as its capital) are in reality the only ones creating all the terror and wars in the world.

The Manchester concert bomber is the Arab Adam Lanza photoshoped here in this picture.

twitchyzero 06-19-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8847420)
I would like you to list some of the countries you have visited because I bet you a number of them are more dangerous than London England.

dont want to derail thread but I felt safer in Russia than I did in the UK. I wasn't in areas like Chechnya and not a fair comparison because there was police every 2nd block for the Int'l Economic Forum so Putin was in town (Saint Petersburg)

read some horror stories of frequent mugging but i was out and about in the early morning doing photos and it was fine...no different than say Hong Kong

did have 2 noobs that I think was trying to extort me in broad daylight...gave them a funny look like 'wth, is that your best shot' and they gave up after a few tries WutFace

Manic! 06-19-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8847458)
dont want to derail thread but I felt safer in Russia than I did in the UK.

What do your feelings have to do with anything?

hchang 06-20-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8847475)
What do your feelings have to do with anything?

Ice ice baby

twitchyzero 06-21-2017 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8847475)
What do your feelings have to do with anything?

a sense of security from heightened security

Will you be okay walking through the streets of Mosul this year if the chances of getting hit by an air-strike or sarin gas is still much lower than getting into a motor vehicle accident in Canada?

we can go on and on.

aaand it looks like we're gonna need an official Terrorism thread

Narrow escape for Brussels after 'nail bomb misfires' | Belgium News | Al Jazeera

Manic! 06-21-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8847763)
a sense of security from heightened security

Will you be okay walking through the streets of Mosul this year if the chances of getting hit by an air-strike or sarin gas is still much lower than getting into a motor vehicle accident in Canada?

we can go on and on.

aaand it looks like we're gonna need an official Terrorism thread

Narrow escape for Brussels after 'nail bomb misfires' | Belgium News | Al Jazeera

Are you comparing London to Mosul? There was also an Attack in Paris. Should we just stop going to Europe altogether?

twitchyzero 06-21-2017 02:33 PM

I sure did, to illustrate the basis of your argument is focused purely on math, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered linking me the odds of dying statistics

so where you and I draw the line of safety and danger is different. It's not black and white. What works for me might not work for you.

I mean screw our built-in fight-or-flight instincts evolved over thousands of years of what feels safe or dangerous. Curb 'em gut feelings. Stay objective and calculated using only statistics to decide on life decisions or even something as basic as recreation and travel plans.

1 in 2 Canadians will get cancer at some point, ah so then no point in trying to achieve or maintain a healthy lifestyle, right?

radioman 06-21-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8847784)
1 in 2 Canadians will get cancer at some point, ah so then no point in trying to achieve or maintain a healthy lifestyle, right?

Totally off topic but I guess you read that CBC article yesterday morning.

I would just say that maintaining a healthy lifestyle might help you be one of the 3/4 that survive said cancer now as opposed to higher chances in prior years.

Manic! 06-21-2017 02:51 PM

Posted the same thing above.

Bouncing Bettys 07-13-2017 08:20 AM

Not surprising news:
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Saudi Arabia has been funding mosques throughout Europe that have become hotbeds of extremism, the former British ambassador to Saudi Arabia Sir William Patey has said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...mer-ambassador

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Theresa May buries international terror funding report for 'national security reasons'
A written statement, slipped out on Wednesday afternoon, confirms that the long-delayed review, which was expected to reveal widespread links between Saudi Arabia and extremists in the UK, has now been shelved permanently.
Theresa May buries international terror funding report for 'national security reasons' - Business Insider


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