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Ch28 06-13-2017 04:52 PM

I have gay co-workers that are perfectly awesome people to hang out with, so I have no issues with the LGBTQ community. Like men and women, they also need to have a set of rights like Great68 mentioned above.

I do, however, think that our society has gotten to the point where everything has to be so politically correct when it comes to the rights of the gay community.

The spa clearly advertises as a female only spa with no male genitalia, and while transgendered females are female, if they possess male genitals then it's the spas right to decline service and entry.

You don't see men complaining about women's only or women complaining about men's only clubs. It's just accepted that they're private areas for that specified gender.

HKS PWR 06-13-2017 05:16 PM

Reminds me of the bit about pronouns Dave Chappelle did in his special for Netflix


teggy604 06-13-2017 10:47 PM

I don't think the transgender woman has any choice to go anywhere else? She not going to go to a male only nude spa (just because she has a penis) if there is such thing in Toronto... yet she is not allowed to go into a female only nude spa. Time to do the banana split.

N.V.M. 06-14-2017 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8846502)

You don't see men complaining about women's only or women complaining about men's only clubs. It's just accepted that they're private areas for that specified gender.

not true at all. its a big issue in golf country clubs.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-05-...g-british-open

huge criticism forced Augusta National to let women join only a couple of years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...n-members-golf

SkinnyPupp 06-14-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8846418)
Yeah, I don't know if I want my mom or sister to see a dick waddling in front of them.

That's not how pregnancy works you know Kappa

That brings up the main issue here, that somehow seeing genitalia of the other gender (even if it's on someone who lives as the same gender as you) is offensive somehow. Like all of a sudden if you see pussy, pussy, pussy, dick, pussy, your day is suddenly ruined.

MrPhreak 06-14-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8846563)
That's not how pregnancy works you know Kappa

That brings up the main issue here, that somehow seeing genitalia of the other gender (even if it's on someone who lives as the same gender as you) is offensive somehow. Like all of a sudden if you see pussy, pussy, pussy, dick, pussy, your day is suddenly ruined.

I would say that I run into a bunch of old guys on the street wagging around gross old man dicks, my day is potentially ruined

Then again, if I run into a bunch of bare breasted university girls, it has the opposite effect

Bouncing Bettys 06-14-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8846444)
OMG!!!! it's the golden shower girl.

Humour from a physical assault with bodily fluids? What would your insulting name for her be if she had contracted HIV or Hepatitis? Or if in the next assault (there have been two now), the bottle contains acid? In each assault, Lauren was conducting interviews as a reporter/engaging in civil debate. Do you condone acts of violence towards people using non-threatening speech you disagree with?
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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8846445)
Not sure if the human race is progressing or regressing....

Manic may have answered that for you.

As a father, I am often confronted with gender issues when public washrooms come up as there are few Family washrooms available. It is less acceptable for me to take my daughter into the women's bathroom, so I take her into the men's (which is often much less clean and she can't seem to stop touching everything in there). With my son, who is still in diapers, there are few change tables available in mens washrooms. My options are to use the women's washroom and hope no one comes in, or change him out in public on a bench or in the trunk of the car. Society hasn't provided me and all fathers, with the best options, but I make do, I adapt, as have all the fathers before me in history.

Great68 06-14-2017 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8846569)
I would say that I run into a bunch of old guys on the street wagging around gross old man dicks, my day is potentially ruined

I don't get why anyone would get so bothered? Old man dick or porn star dick, like who cares? it's a dick, you have one too, it's not something you haven't seen before. Why is it such a big deal.

If I was in that scenario I'd be like "Well that was weird" and move on. I certainly wouldn't be upset about it.

320icar 06-14-2017 09:20 AM

^^ you prove our point. Old man dick, porn star dick, tranny dick, it's all dick. So sorry you don't fit into their pre established rules

SkinnyPupp 06-14-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8846569)
I would say that I run into a bunch of old guys on the street wagging around gross old man dicks, my day is potentially ruined

Then again, if I run into a bunch of bare breasted university girls, it has the opposite effect

This isn't out on the street though, this is at a spa where everyone can be nude if they want.

What makes it extra ridiculous is that the rule isn't even against men (which would be acceptable) but against male genitalia. As if the genitalia itself poses a threat.

Manic! 06-14-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8846579)
This isn't out on the street though, this is at a spa where everyone can be nude if they want.

What makes it extra ridiculous is that the rule isn't even against men (which would be acceptable) but against male genitalia. As if the genitalia itself poses a threat.

This is place where there are little girls. Do you really want to explain to a 5 year old why that women has a weenier?

MarkyMark 06-14-2017 10:40 AM

Why is a 5 year old going to a nude spa anyways?

Bouncing Bettys 06-14-2017 10:53 AM

Gender segregated public nudity institutions should be for adults while families should go to their own facilities. Most adults don't want to be around kids anyways.

Manic! 06-14-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8846586)
Why is a 5 year old going to a nude spa anyways?

It's women only not adult only. Minors do go to the spa.

If you have a dick your a man plain and simple. But what I don't understand is the husband tried to book over the phone. Did he tell them over the phone that his wife had a dick?




Found this review of the spa.

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This spa is like an indoor Scandinavian spa.
We travelled as a group and appreciated the fact that we could talk in a hush tone. I know spa's are supposed to be silent and relaxing also and can appreciate those who prefer no talking.
We knew going that clothing was optional but didn't fully expect to experience. We all own the same parts and that's great and all but for my group having some strange women come sit next to me fully nude was awkward. In the Sauna there was actually a fully nude lady with her legs up in the air...little too much for my comfort level. I can understand topless especially for those who endure shoulder and back pain but i think bottoms should be required....little nasty to think you are soaking in the same water that someone has everything spreading free in.
We did go just for the water circuit and enjoyed that process. 2.5hrs was more then enough time to get our fill in.
Would come again if I knew bottoms were required so no little hairs are floating free where you are relaxing. :)

MarkyMark 06-14-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8846593)
It's women only not adult only. Minors do go to the spa.

If you have a dick your a man plain and simple. But what I don't understand is the husband tried to book over the phone. Did he tell them over the phone that his wife had a dick?




Found this review of the spa.

I get that it's women only, but if they are worried about the children then take them to a clothing required spa.

twitchyzero 06-14-2017 11:23 AM

this is a tough one

I fully understand why other unclothed female patrons would be extremely uncomfortable with balls & peen sitting right next time then when you're supposed to be in a calm, relaxed setting. I'm more on this side of the argument.

but where do we draw the line of being comfortable? I'm sure 'white' passengers in the 50s were uncomfortable with sitting next to 'black' passengers on a bus.

MrPhreak 06-14-2017 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8846575)
I don't get why anyone would get so bothered? Old man dick or porn star dick, like who cares? it's a dick, you have one too, it's not something you haven't seen before. Why is it such a big deal.

If I was in that scenario I'd be like "Well that was weird" and move on. I certainly wouldn't be upset about it.

I see, so in this story below... the appropriate response would be for the girls to say "well that was weird" and move on? It is just dick right? Why is it such a big deal?

Police seek man who exposed himself to 2 young girls - British Columbia - CBC News

Manic! 06-14-2017 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8846596)
I get that it's women only, but if they are worried about the children then take them to a clothing required spa.

The whole point of going to a women's only spa is so you don't have to be worried.

MarkyMark 06-14-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8846600)
The whole point of going to a women's only spa is so you don't have to be worried.

It might be a good lesson in teaching your child how to mind their own business. I'm assuming that the person with a dick isn't going to put their foot on the bench and pose like Captain Morgan with a kid right in front of them.

fliptuner 06-14-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8846603)
It might be a good lesson in teaching your child how to mind their own business. I'm assuming that the person with a dick isn't going to put their foot on the bench and pose like Captain Morgan with a kid right in front of them.

And when they do cause they can...?

Manic! 06-14-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8846603)
It might be a good lesson in teaching your child how to mind their own business. I'm assuming that the person with a dick isn't going to put their foot on the bench and pose like Captain Morgan with a kid right in front of them.

From a review of the spa.

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In the Sauna there was actually a fully nude lady with her legs up in the air...little too much for my comfort level

Armind 06-14-2017 12:31 PM


MarkyMark 06-14-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 8846615)
And when they do cause they can...?

If they are doing something inappropriate then report them.

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8846616)
From a review of the spa.

They went to a nude spa and are complaining that a lady was being too nude for them.

I've seen some nasty fucking bodies in the locker room of my gym before, and I just look away, it doesn't ruin my day.

Manic! 06-14-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8846625)
If they are doing something inappropriate then report them.

You are missing the point. Some people don't want to see a mans dick.

stewie 06-14-2017 01:29 PM

I think gender based clubs or programs are becoming a joke.

Women are allowed to play on mens sports leagues but god forbid if a guy attempts to join the female league. I've had it before. 1 girl refuses to play with the other girls and demands to play with the boys and all of a sudden the locker room now has to become woman friendly. No acting around, make sure you don't accidentally glance at her while she sits on the bench staring at everyone like shes an outcast and don't let her see you naked or horsing around as it may offend her. Women can join boy scouts but no way is a guy ever allowed to join the girl guides. Women can have womens only gyms for those self conscious women who don't want to be eye fucked by every guy at the gym yet they work out in skin tight pants and a sports bra uploading a photo on instagram showing off their massive gains and abs. Meanwhile the self conscious 300lb fat guy covered in sweat struggling to complete 20 minutes on a treadmill has 2 women whispering to each other across the room making comments about how fat he is and it looks like he's going to have a jammer.

If they want a womens only spa, go for it. Just don't let the feminists whine and complain when something opens up that's mens only.


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